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This only currently at the planning stage, I still have some details to sort out.

Bit of a themed list this, an Imperial Guard unit that hails from a somewhat misty swamp world located on the edge of the Ghoul Stars.

Their homeworld, Morrdh, is a remote fortress world on the frontier of Imperial space....though once extensive cities and fortifications have sunken into the mire. 13th Battalion, otherwise known as 'The Bad Luck Boys', is one of many Morridane Battalion that had seen service in the Guard. Due to Morrdh's relative low population base and its status as a garrison world, only battalion sized units get tithed once a generation.

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Thats the general fluff, rules wise I'll be using FW's Siege Regiment list updated for 5th Ed....though unit names will differ slightly.

Heres one soldier of the Darkwatch...though should that be Watchman?

Since I'm not overly fond of GW and very rarely play in their stores (not to mention having a tight budget), I'm looking at using non-GW models and the Brits from Secrets of the Third Reich suit my needs perfectly.

Armylist is something I still need to workout, though I have a rough idea in mind;

HQ

Geared to towards sitting behind the 'gun line' supporting best it can, thinking mortar here.

Will be using this chap for my Regimental Standard.



Elites

Grenadiers, though under the name 'Ironheads'.

Troops

Basing my force on WW2 British practice which translate as a basic platoon of Command section and three rifle sections, though heavy weapons squad of heavy bolters (Vickers ).

Possibly Engineer squad, geared up as assault squads with sten guns standing in for the shotguns.

Fast Attack

Death Riders under either 'Outriders' or 'Dark Riders'.

Heavy Support

Heavy Weapons Platoon entirely made up of Lascannon teams referred to as anti-tank.

Earthshaker battery for sure, possibly either a Vanquisher or Malcador depending on FOC.

I saw this thread and thought that these may be of interest. Especially if you are keen to keep things cheap...with the added bonus of them being plastic (easier to convert):

http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/commandos-6189-p.asp

Thanks for that, though I was going for the ones from Secrets of the Third Reich since they're chunky and more 40K-ish.

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=126_145

I hadn't realised that the SotTR minis were as cheap as they are...but if you need a bit more food for thought, have you seen renegade? They are £6-95 for a pack of 8 and they look quite chunky:

http://www.renegademiniatures.com/ww2british.htm

There are also regiment deals:

http://www.renegademiniatures.com/regww2.htm

I have some of the WW1 troops and they are the right height and build for IG...and a few head-swaps from SotTR would tie them into your existing units...

I went with the SOTR ones because I liked the models and also the weapons 'fit' better....though Mealstrom games sell the same models at an even cheaper price.

Ideally I'd like to do a IG army based on the Long Range Desert Group.

EDIT: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/IA1update28AUG.pdf

Scroll down to the Armoured Battlegroup list round page 17, a LRDG based Armoured Fist company could work.

Sounds like a good plan...it would certainly be fluffy and add some extra interest to keep the muse flowing.

The reason I suggested a few other options for troops was because there are only a few different poses for the SotTR minis and you may have to repeat them quite a lot to make up your armoured fist squads.

Mind you, West Wind have the WW2 range for Berlin or Bust so you could probably mix a few of those into your army...even if you have to swap a few heads/weapons (which can be bought separately)...

Are you planning on using GW vehicles for the army or trying something else?

Got some of the heads from the Berlin or Bust range to add a bit of variety, Officers and NCOs I'm planning on marking out using berets.

Using the Assault Bren chaps gives me 8 base models, add in an NCO, HW team and the choice of 20 different heads then it won't be so bad.

Going with the LRDG idea means not so many infantry models.

Probably non-GW, found a decent alternative for the Chimera that only costs £15.

stormwell wrote:Probably non-GW, found a decent alternative for the Chimera that only costs £15.

Spill the beans! Is it the West Wind British one or something else?

It was going to be this from Inkerman Castings;



However the guy behind the company died couple of months back and the range is currently in limbo...

Plan B is either Halftracks or trucks if I can find any....most likely the former.

OK, models the new British Paras models for SOTR that I ordered finally arrived today.

Got the Starter Pack with a couple of trooper blister packs, gives me roughly a platoon sized force.

Most of the heads were beret gasmask ones that I'll probably sell, did get some normal non-gasmask berets and helmets.


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I now officially have a platoon of Guardsmen.

1x Command Squad; Officer, Medic, Vox-caster, Mortar team.

2x Infantry Squad; Sarge, Autocannon team and 7 other Guardsmen.

Pics when I get hold of a decent camera.


Its basically these guys with brodie helmets;

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/images/B-DOOM-10.jpg

In effect, something pretty clsoe to this;

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fF0J7PhtEyk/TRkObjq2y1I/AAAAAAAAEM0/j7V12UxxSvA/s1600/EB-01.jpg


Couple of questions though;

a.) Camo or drab olive for the smocks?

b.) Morridane Darkwatch or the Royal Morridane Rifles?


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Well uniform wise I'm probably looking at the British Army's 1960 Pattern uniform, it was of an olive green colour and used during the 1960s sort of bridging the gap between the khaki battledress of WW2 and the more familiar DPM uniforms of the 1970s onwards.

So pictures are quite rare.

Got a Combat Patrol game today, after suggestions from people and checking through what I have/can convert I've got the following list;

Platoon Command
Plasma Pistol:-Officer
Medi-Pack
Autocannon
80pts

Infantry Squad x2
Plasma Pistol:-Sarge
Plasma Gun
Autocannon
170pts

Chimera x2
110pts

Scout Sentinel
Autocannon
40pts

Total: 400pts

Needless to say, regarding the outcome it'll effective what I'll need to get for the army models wise.


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Slight name change, realized that the British Reconnaissance Corps can be recreated via a regular IG Codex force.

Armoured cars would be trickier, Leman Russes with wheels instead of tracks anyone?

Proiteus did some Russ based wheeled vehicles for his Grot Guard army. They are pretty big!

I quite like the ring of the RMR Also camo or OG, it depends on the amount of time you have to paint. If you're trying to stick with a theme then you could do the OG on most of the models, but have a few elite troopers in camo.

The Rifles it is then, can still do them as a Recce force.

Managed to eke out a minor victory in today's Combat Patrol game against my mate's Space Wolves, ALOT better than I was expecting and I'm sold on Plasma Guns now.

Will be comparing prices of Chimeras and Halftracks.

May go OG, have plenty of time but painting skills aren't really that great.

Have you checked out Old Crow? They do a range of 25mm vehicles, including half-tracks for about £16. They are a bit more sci-fi than the old US M3, for instance, but they don;t actually look a million miles away from the German Sdfkz.

The Old Crow ones are a bit too SciFi for my liking.

I'll probably go for one of the SOTR British Battlemaster APCs, which fit the theme a bit better.

Great idea I'm planning on something similar eventually although I'll be using the warlord Games plastics. Have you considered using the Suits as Ogryns? Also it might be worth your while using GW weapons it just makes it far easier to work out whos got what for your opponents....

Suits? Oh, you mean the British Steel chaps....I was thinking Stormtroopers.

Seen some conversions of those with SM arms, reckon the Vickers Packed HMGs would make good Hot-Las guns.

As I've stated, pictures of the 1960 Pattern uniform are quite rare....though a stumble upon by chance revealed that UNIT from Doctor Who originally used it.





Much better closeups to work from.

You could use Ork trukks for the British truck your lacking. I've seen alot of people use it.

Another great place to get detailed information about historical armed forces is the Osprey series of books. If its ever been in combat then Osprey have done a book about it


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This one (The British Army 1965-80) for instance


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Or this one for slightly earlier - British Battledress 1937–61

Cheers, need to check whether I have that as a PDF.

Though I have ideas for Veterans or possibly Stormtroopers, based on the Black Ops soldiers form the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen film.

Looking at alt Chimera options, got ideas for this from Muskteer Miniatures.



Cover over the rear area, Chimera turret on top and front end modified.

Its a bit low-tech for my liking, but it definately has merit

Might use a M3 Halftrack model, Westwind sells some at a reasonable price....though that'll be when money permits. :(

Kicking about ideas for Plasma guns; converted up some Steampunk/Weird War/Ghostbuster style ones (pics suck on my mobile).



Though discovered I have some of Renegade's Late WW1 British Lewis Gunners which may fit the role better.

Still kicking about ideas for a suitable Plasma Gun, right at the bottom of my list is converting some Cadian gunners....despite how much I dislike the models.

Lascannons I'm either gonna go with the option below or convert some sort of Bren carrier.

Recently discovered Tank Destroyer Battalions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_destroyer_battalion

Could possibly recreate 'em in 40K, but I'm kicking about ideas as to how to do so.

*Regular Codex force would give me plenty of Lascannons counting as Anti-Tank Guns, though only nine tanks to play with.

*The Siege Regiment list gives me Heavy Weapons Platoons to play with but at the cost of even less tanks.

*Krieg Armoured Battlegroup looked like a possible option, plenty of tanks but no Heavy Weapons Platoon and transported limited to Gorgons.

*FW's regular Armoured Battlegroup is looking like the best option; Vanquishers backed up by an Armoured Fist Platoon, some Salamander Scouts, Hydra battery, Destroyers and possibly a Valdor.


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Turns out Anti-Tank warfare was the domain of the Royal Artillery for us Brits during WW2 organized into Anti-Tank Regiments.

http://nigelef.tripod.com/anti-tank.htm

Tank Destroyers such as the British Archer tank and the American M10 Wolverine were considered Self-Propelled Guns, hence why they operated under the Royal Artillery.

Coming down to a tie between normal Codex list or a FW Armoured Battlegroup one, both will have Lascannons in the Infantry Platoon in some format.

Though I'll probably go with normal Codex list, each Platoon will be a bunch of Lascannon Batteries with couple of Infantry squads and Command Squad.

It looks doable as a regular Codex list, some quick maths show I can do a workable 1,500 pt list with enough points left over to tool up.

Platoons work out as;

PCS; Heavy Bolter 40pts

2x Infantry Squads, Plasma, Autocannon 150 pts (75 each)

2x HW Squads, Lascannons 210 pts (105 each)

Totals 400 pts.

Heh. That surely leave a lot of space for vehicles

For effectiveness though I would be tempted to kit the PCS out with flamers to deter any nasty closing hordes.

Or just take some different platoons. For formation make up it might be worth looking at the Flames of War british books as well. I like the low-tech look for the trucks it resembles a local vehicle not the expensive forgeworld model. The Lewis gunners might work as Plasma Guns I use The Assault Group M60's and Cadian backpacks for miine if that helps.