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More information as it develops...

Summary of info: We don't know a whole lot, but what we do know is;

-28 mm scale with round bases (like the fantasy line, the base will probably be cast into the models),

-At least 8 races,

-Vehicles.

There may be more information that can be discerned, this information comes mainly from the last 20 minutes or so of today's Turn 8 at Beasts of War.


Edit: for those with "the twitter", please see the instructions at the link above, you could get... from what I can tell, a urinal...

Edit 2: Aaaaaaand, on Turn 8, it has been confirmed to be an October release, and there is a "Warpath Week" coming up on Beasts of War.

Interesting. Hope it turns out something good.

*drool*

Tried that Buzzsaw, got nothing.

Kanluwen wrote:Tried that Buzzsaw, got nothing.

The link in the image didn't work for you? Odd, I just checked it, it worked for me... http://www.manticgames.com/Sci-fi/We-are-doing-sci-fi.html try pasting it?

I got nothin' when I did it. But I might have given them the wrong URL or somethin'.

So, Turn 8 has revealed that the game is an October release, and those who have Backstage access to Beasts of War will have access to a closed Beta.

Also 28mm scale confirmed.

If the ruleset, miniatures and accessories are of good quality...

This will most likely be the competition that GW needs...or one of the final nails in GW's coffin.

I mean...leaking early info, inviting players to be part of "alpha" and "beta" testing for rulesets...it's already off to a good start!

I just can't wait to see the models!

Padre^.

YES!!!!!! We can finally have some decent competition at last.

Just watched beasts of war show, man it was packed with mantic news... talk about aggressive schedule hey? Those guys are on speed for sure

Between this and Kings of War, Mantic can prove to be a stiff competition for GW. Of course this is banking on all of us gamers supporting their systems. I have been hinting to my local game shop to get some mantic. I guess will go ahead and buy some. I will probably have to proxy them as a warhammer army until I get someone else to play Mantic's systems.

One of the things that intrigued me the most, and this is not limited to the Sci-Fi range, but is something they want to institute with their fantasy range as well, is that they are floating the idea of tournament play using a chess clock. As they discuss this in the video, this is only possible with a very tight set of rules.

And that is good stuff to me.

I remain skeptical of the idea of them being "stiff competition" to GW.

Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

But if the models are to the quality of their Elves--I will pass.

They only have what.. one year existence? Just look at what they have accomplished so far, if thats not a very respectable starting up I dont know what is.

Kanluwen wrote:Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

Infinity?

Laughing Man wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

Infinity?

Infinity is small scale games. Nowhere near 40k, which is seemingly what many people want.


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By that I mean: 40k's scale and the big size of armies.

*refrains from making 'your precious GW' comment*



The bases moulded into the model idea is not one I like, but everything else sounds fine. Now we just need some pictures!

Kanluwen wrote:I remain skeptical of the idea of them being "stiff competition" to GW.

Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

But if the models are to the quality of their Elves--I will pass.

The elves were their first attempt, they learned from them, undeads, dwarfts, orcs, this are nothing like the elves, not in quality or design. They also bank heavyly on being a compatible range for other games. GW main asset, specially so in 40k is that there is no other full size army battle game in the 28mm range, that includes full sized armies and vehicles. Mantic is about to blow GWs safety net out of the watter.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Now we just need some pictures!

http://www.beastsofwar.com/kings-of-war/leaked-mantic-sci-fi-pictures/

Kanluwen wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

Infinity?

Infinity is small scale games. Nowhere near 40k, which is seemingly what many people want.


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By that I mean: 40k's scale and the big size of armies.

Heh, given that Mantic's motto is "Building Big Armies", I think it's safe to say they are going large scale on this.

H.B.M.C. wrote:*refrains from making 'your precious GW' comment*

You need new material. You're about as played out as Lewis Black.

At least he had shock value at one point.

But really. I can't get hardly anyone interested in Infinity around here.
Why? I'm quoting here: The size of the "armies" is too small for many people.
They don't want another little skirmish game that is being shown off, where a single box is pretty much a force.

I've had better luck introducing games like Heavy Gear Blitz, wherein folks can have a bigger cadre of models to work from.

The bases moulded into the model idea is not one I like, but everything else sounds fine. Now we just need some pictures!

It depends on how the bases and model are moulded. It can't be any worse than Dust: Tactics though.


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Buzzsaw wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

Infinity?

Infinity is small scale games. Nowhere near 40k, which is seemingly what many people want.

By that I mean: 40k's scale and the big size of armies.

Heh, given that Mantic's motto is "Building Big Armies", I think it's safe to say they are going large scale on this.

Oh, I'm not worried about Mantic going small scale. I was simply replying to Laughing Man's point.

Warpath???
Warpath is one of the biggest US-distributors of Mantic and other miniature ranges:
http://www.warpathgames.com/wholesale/warpath.php
Guess I can preorder the Warpath game from Warpath Games soon

Kanluwen wrote:

Laughing Man wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Will they be competition? Yeah. And with them being the first 'real' integrated system for scifi with both models and rules it'll be another point in their corner.

Infinity?

Infinity is small scale games. Nowhere near 40k, which is seemingly what many people want.


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By that I mean: 40k's scale and the big size of armies.

Fair nuff, I just enjoy being pedantic.

Kroothawk wrote:Warpath???
Warpath is one of the biggest US-distributors of Mantic and other miniature ranges:
http://www.warpathgames.com/wholesale/warpath.php
Guess I can preorder the Warpath game from Warpath Games soon

Hah. Now that would be good.

Kanluwen wrote:You need new material. You're about as played out as Lewis Black.

At least he had shock value at one point.

"Pot to kettle! Come in kettle! You're not reflecting any light! Over!"

Someone mentions that this might be competition against 40K, and the first person to say "Not it won't!" is you. Yeah. And you say my material's old...

Kroothawk wrote:Warpath???
Warpath is one of the biggest US-distributors of Mantic and other miniature ranges:
http://www.warpathgames.com/wholesale/warpath.php
Guess I can preorder the Warpath game from Warpath Games soon

We can hope to see the Xzibit photos any moment now... Bonus points if they include Warpath.

Kanluwen wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Warpath???
Warpath is one of the biggest US-distributors of Mantic and other miniature ranges:
http://www.warpathgames.com/wholesale/warpath.php
Guess I can preorder the Warpath game from Warpath Games soon

Hah. Now that would be good.

That's not good.
It's more like Brits trying to sell a softdrink called McDonald to US fastfood chains.

It's a Warpath within a Warpath.

Mantic-ception! (BWAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!)


Anyway, I look at the pictures and I see:

1. A humvee.
2. The love-child of a half-track and one of the lions from Voltron.
3. A walker that looks like a Snow Fox from BattleTech, and a two-legged walker that is really chubby.
4. A Space Dwarf tricycle.
5. A Space Dwarf halftrack that looks too small even for the people riding it. A Chibi-Track, if you will.

I assume the models will be better (the general Mantic stuff is very nice after all).

Mantic scifi should be exciting... but I keep thinking about the scrawny elves.

And this is hardly the first "challenge" to 40k. Remember Void? Remember VOR? Remember Warzone?

All "challenges" that did not make it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:You need new material. You're about as played out as Lewis Black.

At least he had shock value at one point.

"Pot to kettle! Come in kettle! You're not reflecting any light! Over!"

Someone mentions that this might be competition against 40K, and the first person to say "Not it won't!" is you. Yeah. And you say my material's old...

The statement was that they will be "stiff competition to GW". Not 40k singly.

"Stiff competition" implies that they're going to bend GW over and stomp them. Mantic is doing well, but they're not doing that well yet.

I have to wonder exactly how many people are playing Mantic's "competition" to WHFB, Kings of War. That would be a good way to get a measure of how well this can do.


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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Anyway, I look at the pictures and I see:

1. A humvee.
2. The love-child of a half-track and one of the lions from Voltron.
3. A walker that looks like a Snow Fox from BattleTech, and a two-legged walker that is really chubby.
4. A Space Dwarf tricycle.
5. A Space Dwarf halftrack that looks too small even for the people riding it. A Chibi-Track, if you will.

The humvee and the Snow Fox-esque walker are fantastic. The 'Space Dwarf' stuff is kind of eh.

I assume the models will be better (the general Mantic stuff is very nice after all).

That is by far my single hope. No more elf proportions.