Ad Mech as a new army in 40k?

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**Malivon**

Anyone else belive that the Ad Mech would be a decent for a new line of models and a codex. They already have many diffrent and uniqe units and fluff that could make great models and codex fluff. Also I would be intrested to have a chance to use some of that badass tech they have in a tabletop situation.

**Brother Coa**

I agree, they would be awesome as an army. I mean, you could then wield Titans and Knights + Robots and half Humans.

**Little lord Fauntleroy**

You're far from the first person to suggest it. Forge World have to the best of my knowledge in the past hinted at maybe doing models (don't ask me for a direct quote, I'm going off what some other Dakkanauts have said), but so far no dice.

**Malivon**

I think they would be more flavorful than Tau :/ .Also does the legio cybernetica still exist or did it die with the heresy?

**Malivon**

Here is a player made codex i found online if anyone wants to check it out

**Mr Morden**

Thanks very much for the download llink - great resource and very inspirational

Agreed - plus the other motivation for a new army is will it produce excellent and cool models - with the sheer variety of possibilites of the cybernetic and bio enhacements for the Mechancus thats a def yes - whilst still being different from the arcance tech of the Dark Eldar.

The most recent offiicial codex describes a very small and highly specialised support arm of the Inqusition Imperium.........rather than an immense organisation that controls hundreds of worlds and warships, untold numbers of varied fighting soldiers, unique war machines such as the Knights (now there is a new large scale plastic model that needs making) and of course the God Machines - the Titans. I can't see an logical argument against?

**TrollPie**

I think they would be a very interesting army-lots of medium-points units with lots of staying power, while all the firepower comes from the bigger units.

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Oh, and they're not marines. Thank Christ.

**Malivon**

Agreed Marines and MEQ armys have been the poster boys for for the Imperium. And they all seem so rigid and straight forward. With the Ad Mech you should get tons of new units, wargear choices, and vehicle upgrades that would be unique, but balanced also totaly diffrent from any current Imperial Tech. They are the masters of artifice therefore their resources should be the best of the best in terms of techonogical advancement. Not to mention all the fluff that would come along with it.

**Grey Templar**

I made a codex for the Ad Mech too.

the Skittarii are too often portrayed as being just augmented humans.

Skittarii refers to the ground forces of the Ad Mech as a whole.

the Augmented humans are more properly refered to as Tech Guard.

proper Skittarii are humans that have been given additional implants, artificial organs, and combat drugs to become hulking monsters bristiling with combat attachments ranging from claws to rapid fire weaponry.

then there are Pratorians, Skittarii who have heavier weaponry.

**Devastator**

Forgive me if i am wrong but aren't Skitaati and tech-guard same thing?
Like skitaari is their offical name in Ad-mech and tech-guard is name to outsiders?

**Mr Morden**

Grey Templar wrote:I made a codex for the Ad Mech too.

Sorry can't open the file - is it not a pdf?

I think Tech Guard is an older term in GW history and Skitarri cooler and newer and they are sometimes considered interchangable, but could easily be wrong

**Malivon**

In the horus heresy noval skitarii where basicly vat grown brutes with cybernetic implants and weapons. They were also given implants like what the world eaters had to make them wreaking balls. The tech guard are basicly Imperial guard that were under the command of the AD mech. The first souldrinkers book gave good insight to each of these diffrent troops.

**Grey Templar**

almost.

Tech-guard basically refers to the bulk of their people.

these are human auxiliaries that owe fealty to the Ad Mech. sort of a Militia. they often have a couple of augmentations, but nothing serious.

then there are the Skittarii proper, who have massive combat augmentations.

both can be referred to as Skittarii, but they are 2 distinct class of soldiers.

Tech-guard are often used as guards by Mago's who deal with non-ad mech forces. true Skittarii are a frightining prospect for other imperial forces and the more human appearing techguard are a way for the Ad Mech to show its human side.

**Malivon**

Did the knight legions become obsolete after the horus heresy?

**Grey Templar**

nope, they are still there AFAIK.

**Malivon**

Having a squad of those in a army would be awsome they basicly seem like mini titans. Ah I would love to see the minis for those.

**Kanluwen**

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:You're far from the first person to suggest it. Forge World have to the best of my knowledge in the past hinted at maybe doing models (don't ask me for a direct quote, I'm going off what some other Dakkanauts have said), but so far no dice.

Forge World has said they want to do an army list of them. Kastorel-Novem was originally slated to get a sequel, wherein the Mechanicus would take part.

**Grey Templar**

Mr Morden wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:I made a codex for the Ad Mech too.

Sorry can't open the file - is it not a pdf?

I think Tech Guard is an older term in GW history and Skitarri cooler and newer and they are sometimes considered interchangable, but could easily be wrong

its a word document, sorry

**Malivon**

Forge World has been saying that for years tho :/ and unless they got a offical codex I doubt they would get to see comp play. Maybe we can talk GW into making a codex first then releasing the models a year or two later they seem to be doing that alot lately.

**Kanluwen**

Malivon wrote:Forge World has been saying that for years tho :/

They've been saying it for exactly 3 years.

and unless they got a offical codex I doubt they would get to see comp play.

Who gives a feth about comp play. If you want comp play with the Mechanicus, you're not going to get Knights, you're not going to have the majority of things that actually make the Mechanicus different from the Imperial Guard or Astartes.

Maybe we can talk GW into making a codex first then releasing the models a year or two later they seem to be doing that alot lately.

Uh, no they haven't.

They release the codex with a 'first wave' and then they release the remainder of the models later in a 'second' or 'third' wave.

**Grey Templar**

its very rare that GW releases a Codex with no models at all.

at the very least they do a new sculpt or something.

a whole new codex would require plastic troops choices, Elites, heavy support, and fast attack. they would also have to have an HQ too, in adition to the codex itself.

**Malivon**

Maybe we can talk GW into making a codex first then releasing the models a year or two later they seem to be doing that alot lately.

Uh, no they haven't.

By that I mean some of the tyranid and de units that never had actual models for long time. IE trygon and venoms.

**Grey Templar**

a totally new codex, as in one that has never existed and has no models for it yet, would be a huge release.

it would be HQs, Troops, Elites, Fast Attack, Heavy Support, and the codex all in one big shabang.

**Malivon**

I belive it would be worth it for them in the end. More flavor gets added to the 40k universe ttg and More kits to bash and make mad coversions. In the end we get a new interesting army to play and they make more money. I just hope they improve their ficecasts before then. Lol the store that I am at now actualy lets you open the clam pack b4 you buy it so you can check the quality.

**Mr Morden**

Kanluwen wrote:
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:You're far from the first person to suggest it. Forge World have to the best of my knowledge in the past hinted at maybe doing models (don't ask me for a direct quote, I'm going off what some other Dakkanauts have said), but so far no dice.

Forge World has said they want to do an army list of them. Kastorel-Novem was originally slated to get a sequel, wherein the Mechanicus would take part.

Are they not know doing this - thats a shame.... :(

To be honest I would be more than happy with a Forge World list as it would have plenty of Fun stuff and more likely to have Knights. Although given the increasing amount of large models from GW I guess its not impossible

**Kanluwen**

Malivon wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Maybe we can talk GW into making a codex first then releasing the models a year or two later they seem to be doing that alot lately.

Uh, no they haven't.

By that I mean some of the tyranid and de units that never had actual models for long time. IE trygon and venoms.

Trygons were released with the launch of the Tyranid book.

Prior to that, the Trygon was in Imperial Armour---where it had a model.

The Venom was also something that existed prior to this DE book, but it was a 'convert for yourself' model in a small sublist for Chapter Approved, where they had step by steps of using the Raider and the Vyper Jetbike.

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Mr Morden wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:You're far from the first person to suggest it. Forge World have to the best of my knowledge in the past hinted at maybe doing models (don't ask me for a direct quote, I'm going off what some other Dakkanauts have said), but so far no dice.

Forge World has said they want to do an army list of them. Kastorel-Novem was originally slated to get a sequel, wherein the Mechanicus would take part.

Are they not now doing this - thats a shame.... :(

To be honest I would be more than happy with a Forge World list as it would have plenty of Fun stuff and more likely to have Knights. Although given the increasing amount of large models

Putting it bluntly: no clue. The idea was that Imperial Armour 9 was to be a follow-up, where the Eldar were revealed to have been 'pulling the strings' of the Ork Waagh.

Recently, there's been a rumor surfacing that they were under pressure to put out a big 'Marine v. Marine' thing with variant 'Pre-Heresy' equipment to put the kaibosh on some of the 3rd party operations.

**Malivon**

Kanluwen wrote:
Malivon wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Maybe we can talk GW into making a codex first then releasing the models a year or two later they seem to be doing that alot lately.

Uh, no they haven't.

By that I mean some of the tyranid and de units that never had actual models for long time. IE trygon and venoms.

Trygons were released with the launch of the Tyranid book.

Prior to that, the Trygon was in Imperial Armour---where it had a model.

The Venom was also something that existed prior to this DE book, but it was a 'convert for yourself' model in a small sublist for Chapter Approved, where they had step by steps of using the Raider and the Vyper Jetbike.

Yeah sry meant to say the Tyrranofex not the trygon dunno why I mentioned him.

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Mr Morden wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:You're far from the first person to suggest it. Forge World have to the best of my knowledge in the past hinted at maybe doing models (don't ask me for a direct quote, I'm going off what some other Dakkanauts have said), but so far no dice.

Forge World has said they want to do an army list of them. Kastorel-Novem was originally slated to get a sequel, wherein the Mechanicus would take part.

Are they not now doing this - thats a shame.... :(

To be honest I would be more than happy with a Forge World list as it would have plenty of Fun stuff and more likely to have Knights. Although given the increasing amount of large models

Putting it bluntly: no clue. The idea was that Imperial Armour 9 was to be a follow-up, where the Eldar were revealed to have been 'pulling the strings' of the Ork Waagh.

Recently, there's been a rumor surfacing that they were under pressure to put out a big 'Marine v. Marine' thing with variant 'Pre-Heresy' equipment to put the kaibosh on some of the 3rd party operations.

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bah ingnore the above post. Idunno why i said the trygon i ment the tyrranofex.

**Kanluwen**

And really, the Tyranid book seems to have been an outlier. We don't know exactly why they didn't get a 'second wave'.

**Malivon**

My guess would be that its easier to get creative with tyranids kits than others when it comes to creating a unit never seen before. With a breif description and some bits a experianced kit bashers could make anything if they had the outline of a tyranid unit.

**Kilkrazy**

Ad Mech could make an interesting and different army however since GW are unable to maintain the number of armies in the game at the moment, they should not introduce another one without getting rid of some current armies.

This could best be done by condensing the SMs into one large book.