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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 14:21:35
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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-Do empire players need to reveal which units are detachments?
-When do you take DT tests when moving through terrain?
-Can mounts make supporting attacks?
-Can mounted units fire in two ranks like normal infantry?
-What happens if a special character has a magic item that exits in the armory? E.G. Crimson death. Can you take both the SC and another character with it, getting two of the same item in the army?
-What if a warmachine(e.g. cauldron of blood) does not have any methods of movement listed? Is it permanently stationery?
-When exactly are you allowed a look out sir roll?
-How do you determine spells for the ring of volans(empire item)? DO you roll 1d6, and can choose to substitute the result for the signature spell?
-If a unit is already affected by a hex/augment, can you recast that spell to "replace" it and possibly gain a better result? Alternatively can you dismiss the spell and recast it immediately afterwards?
-Can units with the scouts rule setup exactly 12 inches away, or does it have to be at least 12.1 inches?
-Can a champion, standard bearer or musician be singled out in combat and killed(by allocating hits against it), or are they always the last to die(excluding characters)?
-Can scouts deploy in the opponent's deployment zone, as long as they are more than 12 inches away from the nearest enemy unit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 17:59:52
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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1) Yes. Its not a hidden, magic item so no hiding it
2) As you move into the terrain
3) Not usually. See the rules for cavalry
4) Yes
5) No, you would be duplicating a magic item. You are allowed one per army, not 1 per army plus 1 for "that guy already has it!!"
6) The cauldron CAN move, some war machines cannot move.
7) When you have at least 5 (3 for MI) rank and fie, and you are the same type as the unit (s if you are cavalry in infantry, no LOS!)
8) Yes
9) You have both effects, and they can stack potentially. See Ogre magic
10) more than 12" means more than 12"
11) Only the champion can be hit - read the rules for command tgroups, explicitly laid out there
12) Yes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/03 23:21:16
Subject: Some questions...
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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That pretty much summed it up.
Very few things actually dont move I cant even think of anything off the top of my head casket of souls maybe doom anvil I could be wrong.
For look out sir 5 normal guys that may include the unit champ the musician and the standard plus 2 more guys will give a character (given he fits in the unit) a look out sir so model on foot gets that if its a monster he dosnt unless he is with other monsters.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 03:31:59
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Terrain : Does every unit take DT tests when they move(not march/charge) into normal forest/etc?
The cauldron of blood has no movement value and has no rules for moving so...how does it move?
How can you stack the spells? The magic section specifically say that the wizard cant cast the same remains in play spell in subsequent turns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 04:07:53
Subject: Some questions...
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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He can cast it again but the effect from the spell cast the turn befor is um done as in you cast it on 1 unit then if you cast it next turn it's effects from the first casting are undone and only the effects of the second apply it's in the rule book.
Some things have magical movement spells that move it etc but I'm not sure about the cauldron but who knows check the rule boom and FAQ.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 04:11:48
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have no idea what you just said...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 04:28:34
Subject: Some questions...
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Fresh-Faced New User
Albany NY
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As far as moving the Cauldroun, almost every war machine has no MV value you use the move of the crew and they can never march. Anvil of Doom says it can't move. Difficult terrain tests vary depending on the type of terrain but a quick rule is that Infantry and monstrous infantry don't take it very often, Calvary, chariots, and monsters take it on most everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/04 07:52:05
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Question wrote:Terrain : Does every unit take DT tests when they move(not march/charge) into normal forest/etc?
Very clearly spelled out in the terrain section of the rulebook. Worth a read.
Question wrote:The cauldron of blood has no movement value and has no rules for moving so...how does it move?
The crew have a M value, so have a look at the rules for warmachines and moving.
Question wrote:How can you stack the spells? The magic section specifically say that the wizard cant cast the same remains in play spell in subsequent turns.
2 wizards, one with loremaster gives you access to the same spells. So while one wizard cannot usually cast the same spell, 2 can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 02:06:53
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can you cast warrior priest spells on warmachines? Can you use healing hand to ressurect dead crew members? If you give it a 4+ ward save does every crew member have the save in close combat?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 03:40:58
Subject: Some questions...
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Question wrote:How can you stack the spells? The magic section specifically say that the wizard cant cast the same remains in play spell in subsequent turns.
2 wizards, one with loremaster gives you access to the same spells. So while one wizard cannot usually cast the same spell, 2 can.
But such a spell couldn't be known by more than one wizard, correct?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 07:18:00
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, not correct. Did you miss the part about Loremaster?
You ignore Loremaster and other similar abilities when determining if you have a duplicate spell.
So, choose a Slann with loremaster (heavens) and then have 3 l2 skink priests, one with the extra spell plaque. You will end up, potentially, with all 7 heavens spells being duplicated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 08:39:29
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If you have assassins and other concealable models in your army, do you have to declare that you have them at the start of the game? I know you dont need to reveal their position, but do you have to say at the start "Hey i have an assasin."?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 09:38:32
Subject: Some questions...
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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Well technically speaking your opponent may ask to see your list and they do have to be in the list so you do have to share that you have them if you are asked if not asked well thats the opponents fault (if you want to be mean that is if its a friendly game well it would be nice if not meh).
Not sure about having to say where my O&G friend used to tell me where is fanatics were hiding but now I know they are always every where.
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/05 09:42:39
Subject: Some questions...
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Cosmic Joe
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There is no rule about list revealing in fantasy it usually boils down what the players in question agree on. In a tournament the TO usually makes it clear what method is used.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 05:51:50
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can i choose to deploy or reform an infantry unit into ranks of less than 5 wide? E.G. If i have 10 skirmishers, can i deploy them into 2 ranks of 4 and 1 rank of 2?
Do unit champions count as characters for the purpose of effects that specify "a character...", e.g. the lore of beasts spells?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 10:25:10
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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1) Yes. You are not compelled to have ranks of any particular width unless you want certain bonuses to accrue
2) No. They are only a "character" for specific instances such as accepting or issuing a challenge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 10:51:16
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What happens if a unit attempts to flee after losing combat, but their path is blocked by an enemy model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 12:31:18
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dangerous terrrain checks, clearly covered in the rule book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 17:09:00
Subject: Some questions...
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Crazed Savage Orc
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Well, every quesition you´ve asked is clearly and understandable written down in the Big Red Book or in one or another armybook.
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Boss, Raglun´z mob ´az redda trouserz dan uz!
Too bad, da mob got stinky about ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 17:45:41
Subject: Re:Some questions...
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Cosmic Joe
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I know the book is big but you're gonna have to read it if you really wanna play
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/06 18:25:27
Subject: Some questions...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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cowpow16 wrote:For look out sir 5 normal guys that may include the unit champ the musician and the standard plus 2 more guys will give a character (given he fits in the unit) a look out sir
Don't have a rule book on me, but for some reason I thought a unit champ didn't count for the 5 rank and file. He has his own stat line (usually with slightly better stats) and thus doesn't qualify I thought.
Am I going crazy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 07:33:53
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A unit champ is indeed excluded from LoS, as he is not a "Rank and File" model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 20:57:49
Subject: Some questions...
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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Ok sorry I thought he could my bad (I havent played it wrong yet so woot).
So can he be targeted by say a cannon?
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Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854
Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos
Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
Do you have enough Priests do you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 21:49:11
Subject: Some questions...
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Cosmic Joe
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Yes champs are affected separately by templets, they even get a LOS provided 5 RnF exist.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/07 21:58:08
Subject: Some questions...
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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All in all, I'd say:
1. Read the rule book.
2. Have a brief look through these forums for similar questions, as stated in the rules.
You'll save some time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 11:30:32
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Does a wizard that casts transformation of kadon still count as a character for the purposes of challenges, make way, and other similar rules?
If a HE archmage has the talisman of saphery + forliath's robe, can he still issue/accept challenges? If yes, will the enemy character be forced to stand and do nothing, since he has no way of hurting him?(Assuming no innate magical ability). If a player declares that he is allocating attacks to the archmage, are these attacks "wasted" when the HE player declares he has the talisman of saphery + forliath's robe(unable to be harmed), or can he re-allocate them to something else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 11:48:17
Subject: Some questions...
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Cosmic Joe
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Question wrote:Does a wizard that casts transformation of kadon still count as a character for the purposes of challenges, make way, and other similar rules?
Yes
Question wrote:If a HE archmage has the talisman of saphery + forliath's robe, can he still issue/accept challenges? If yes, will the enemy character be forced to stand and do nothing, since he has no way of hurting him?(Assuming no innate magical ability). If a player declares that he is allocating attacks to the archmage, are these attacks "wasted" when the HE player declares he has the talisman of saphery + forliath's robe(unable to be harmed), or can he re-allocate them to something else?
He's still a character so yea, the rest depends heavily on the list rules used for the game, in open lists situations it wont come up as the opponent would know it, in closed lists changing his decision after he found out would be wrong because then what's the point of not playing open lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 16:17:36
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Mighty Gouge-Horn
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Nope if he attacks a model with the robes then his attacks are wasted (I love challenging models that i know dont have magic weapons with a noble with the robe)
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D.O.O.M.F.A.R.T's 30th man!
Red_Zeke wrote:Now if your theme, is Hans, the arch-lector, who likes taking out the war altar to go watch his steam tank race around, while shooting off 3 cannons and 3 mortars for a fireworks display, it gets a little iffy.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390844.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/10 10:15:41
Subject: Some questions...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can a chaos sorcerer lord take a magical shield? I remember that wizards cant wear armor unless they are listed as having it on their profile, but i cant remember if theres any special rules for shields.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/10 22:19:23
Subject: Some questions...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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All magical armour is the same - as longas you can take any armour at all you can take magical armour, which includes magical shields
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