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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 20:29:51
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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The codex hints that they may be from xeno technology. Why don't any other chapters have access to them?
Could they have been adapted from Tau Crisis Suits? Can we expect Tau to get some big MC suit thing also?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 20:31:52
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Barpharanges
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When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight..... Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 20:35:00
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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The twisted mind of mad man.
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Iron Warriors 442nd Grand Battalion: 10k points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 20:54:06
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Dakka Veteran
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I thought it was canon that there's no such thing as a female Dreadknight.
The Imperium/AdMech can build Dreadnoughts, those Knight things from the Mechanicum book, and at least four different flavors of Titans. An oversized powerloader from Aliens should be a gimme for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 21:05:29
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Dreadknights don't utilize anything new.
look up the Knights of the Adeptus Mechanicus feudal worlds. they are basically small one man titans that look alot like small exosuits.
Dreadknights are just a smaller version of this that the Inquisition requisitioned for the sole use of the Grey Knights chapter.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 21:31:13
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Its a big galaxy.....
As stated, they're probably a variant of a common Ad Mech walker that the Inquisition has altered, or a rare STC that only the Grey Knight's techpriest have acess to.
...Or Matt Ward wanting to be a fanboy and make Grey Knights even more broken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/11 22:02:08
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The latter i think
Can't wait to see the Necron version
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 00:11:43
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Well, when a Dreaddaddy (Ward) and a Dreadmommy (Jervis) love each other very much...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 01:17:53
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Some think that the Dreadknight might be a Jokaero piece of tech. It could be from any xenos species that the Grey Knights have contact with though, the GK don't care so much about species as your dimension of origin.
Others have mentioned AdMech Knights, which is another valid theory due to their connections with the AdMech.
The Tau are very modern-thinking in that they aren't into presenting big targets for the sake of firepower. They prefer to use airforce when they need to bring in the big guns. We aren't likely to ever see a mass-produced unit larger than the XV9.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 04:30:04
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The dark dimension of Matt Ward.
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My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 05:13:07
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Where did dreadknight come from?
To that I ask "Where did sanguinor come from?"
And to that I answer,
My friend, they come from a aphotic and clammy orifice with bouquet of ejectamenta and human odure.
The inspiration source of all of Matt Ward's works. It is also where is head rests.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 08:57:04
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Ask your spiritual league.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 08:59:10
Subject: Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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terranarc wrote:Where did dreadknight come from?
To that I ask "Where did sanguinor come from?"
And to that I answer,
My friend, they come from a aphotic and clammy orifice with bouquet of ejectamenta and human odure.
The inspiration source of all of Matt Ward's works. It is also where is head rests.
The Sanguinor would be the cooler and older brother of the dreadknight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 10:58:02
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Dreadknights are oldschool in the fluff. Not new. But if they were to update the story I'd say its alien tech... which is stupid because its the ordos mallus. Not Xenos... who should have gotten it. In there own codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 11:01:30
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Hammer of Witches
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DeffDred wrote:Dreadknights are oldschool in the fluff. Not new. But if they were to update the story I'd say its alien tech... which is stupid because its the ordos mallus. Not Xenos... who should have gotten it. In there own codex.
Cite your sources, please. Note that they are not the same as Ad Mech Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 12:46:20
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Fixture of Dakka
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htj wrote: Note that they are not the same as Ad Mech Knights.
They're exactly the same as Eldar Warwalkers and Exo-suits.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 13:09:42
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 13:10:31
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Hammer of Witches
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DarknessEternal wrote:htj wrote: Note that they are not the same as Ad Mech Knights.
They're exactly the same as Eldar Warwalkers and Exo-suits.
More or less, yeah. So you're saying that they are pre-existing in the fluff in the form of alien technology? That makes sense. But that wasn't the impression I got of what DeffDred was saying, I thought he was implying that the Dreadknights themselves have been mentioned prior to the current GK codex, perhaps in some very old fluff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 13:49:47
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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whatwhat wrote:blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Doesn't stop them using it though, hypocrites that they are.
Ctan Phase swords are Necron Tech, for example..
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:01:54
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Maybe. But developing tech based on xenos equipment is a further stretch than using a sword you found left on some planet. Anyway when you think of Knight paladin's and that they were around before the great crusade you wonder if Dreadknights might just be a variation of that tech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:28:56
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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whatwhat wrote:blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Incorrect, use of Xeno technology is forbidden to the common imperial.
the Inquisition does whatever they damn well please, and the Ad Mech does conduct research using Alien technology. procured for them by the Ordo Xenos.
the Imperium does advance its tech level, just at a very slow and steady pace. the Ad Mech is constantly tinkering with alien technology, especially Necron tech.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:49:17
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Grey Templar wrote:whatwhat wrote:blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Incorrect, use of Xeno technology is forbidden to the common imperial.
the Inquisition does whatever they damn well please, and the Ad Mech does conduct research using Alien technology. procured for them by the Ordo Xenos.
the Imperium does advance its tech level, just at a very slow and steady pace. the Ad Mech is constantly tinkering with alien technology, especially Necron tech.
The adeptus Mechanicum is reliant on STCs to advance tech level because of ancient dogma which prohibits them from reverse engineering existing technolgy in order to understand it. And that's with everything including human tech, so the idea they do it with xenos tech, I wonder where you got that from.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:53:08
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Barpharanges
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The Inquisition do what they want, I believe that certain pre-heresy Titans and war-machines were created with Xenos tech to combat their enemies and create more advanced tanks and meachines. Dreadknights were possibly a design that was about to be put into production before the Heresy and were brought into service upon the creation of the Grey Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:55:00
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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I don't understand why the Dreadknight has to be xenos tech wehn there are already examples of single pilot walkers (Dreadnaughts, Knight Paladins) in the imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:58:07
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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whatwhat wrote:Grey Templar wrote:whatwhat wrote:blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Incorrect, use of Xeno technology is forbidden to the common imperial.
the Inquisition does whatever they damn well please, and the Ad Mech does conduct research using Alien technology. procured for them by the Ordo Xenos.
the Imperium does advance its tech level, just at a very slow and steady pace. the Ad Mech is constantly tinkering with alien technology, especially Necron tech.
The adeptus Mechanicum is reliant on STCs to advance tech level because of ancient dogma which prohibits them from reverse engineering existing technolgy in order to understand it. And that's with everything including human tech, so the idea they do it with xenos tech, I wonder where you got that from.
Reading BL books and the Necron Codex.
the Ad Mech has managed to completely reverse engeneer Gauss weaponry, but the power requirements are driving them nuts.
The Ad Mech does invent completely new things, Power Armor is NOT from an STC and neither are Bolters, but it is an insanely slow process that requires approval from the Fabricator General that sometimes a Magos responsable for creating something new will claim his design is an STC that he found. that always goes right through the red tape.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 14:59:37
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Barpharanges
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I wonder how they did that (cough Cough Void Dragon)
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 15:28:36
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Ok I don't have the Necron codex I was going on Mechanicum.
Anyway I still don't see why Dreadknights need to be Xenos tech when there are already sole pilot walkers, Dreadnaughts and Knights, which exist in the imperium. The name itself, Dread-Knights, hints it is a derivative of the two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 15:30:38
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I myself don't belive the Xeno tech bit. I was just explaining that Xeno tech is used by the Imperium.
I think its just a smaller class of Ad Mech Knight the Inquisition has managed to get exclusive rights for the GKs to.
and the Tau bit is 100% wrong. the retconned fluff has Dreadknights being in existance long before the Tau even showed up.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 16:17:53
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Grey Templar wrote:I myself don't belive the Xeno tech bit. I was just explaining that Xeno tech is used by the Imperium.
I think its just a smaller class of Ad Mech Knight the Inquisition has managed to get exclusive rights for the GKs to.
and the Tau bit is 100% wrong. the retconned fluff has Dreadknights being in existance long before the Tau even showed up.
Same as the Storm Raven or whatever the name the ship they introduced with Blood Angels has. In a game of 20+ years of ever expanding fluff and with the express purpose of selling minis, retcons are and will continue being rather common.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/12 17:08:12
Subject: Re:Where do Dreadknights come from?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Grey Templar wrote:whatwhat wrote:Grey Templar wrote:whatwhat wrote:blood reaper wrote:When a mommy and a daddy Dreadknight.....
Possibly reversed engineered Xenos and Admech technology, possibly parts of the original Dreadnoughts, they do bare some resemblance to those of the Horus Hersey.
Use of Xenos technology is outlawed by the imperium as is reverse engineering by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Incorrect, use of Xeno technology is forbidden to the common imperial.
the Inquisition does whatever they damn well please, and the Ad Mech does conduct research using Alien technology. procured for them by the Ordo Xenos.
the Imperium does advance its tech level, just at a very slow and steady pace. the Ad Mech is constantly tinkering with alien technology, especially Necron tech.
The adeptus Mechanicum is reliant on STCs to advance tech level because of ancient dogma which prohibits them from reverse engineering existing technolgy in order to understand it. And that's with everything including human tech, so the idea they do it with xenos tech, I wonder where you got that from.
Reading BL books and the Necron Codex.
the Ad Mech has managed to completely reverse engeneer Gauss weaponry, but the power requirements are driving them nuts.
The Ad Mech does invent completely new things, Power Armor is NOT from an STC and neither are Bolters, but it is an insanely slow process that requires approval from the Fabricator General that sometimes a Magos responsable for creating something new will claim his design is an STC that he found. that always goes right through the red tape.
The IOM does not have Gauss tech.
Reread the passage in the Necron codex, as this mis-statement crops up all the fething time. (unless you have a BL page reference i can check? They have recovered Necron atifacts ( FOD mentions some) but none that are functional.)
The AdMech have no clue, beyond very basic principles, of how Gauss Tech works. The math is theoretically impossible (ie they can't make it work), they have no working examples of gauss weaponry to reverse engineer and are having to theoryhammer it based on it's effect.
The have no idea how to make a trigger mechanism that will fire it without fusing and causing catastrophic blowback even if they could figure out the math, and they would need a power source of starship/titan generator level to be able to power a shot that could punch through both faces of a land raider without deflection of the beam.
In short they have no clue how it works, why it works, or how to make one. Even if they could they could only fire one with a backpack the size of a city block
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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