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Hey I was wondering. I know we're all fairly in tuned to when GW does its price hikes. They give us notice. But about a year ago I added some FW items to my Amazon wish list and when revisiting the links yesterday I noticed the prices were higher.

Eldar Avatar (6-12 months ago) 50.00, today 52.00
Eldar Revenant Titan (6-12 months ago) 175.00, today 182.00. All prices in UK currency (I don't know how to make that symbol).

I don't ever remember see ForgeWorld post price increases. Does anyone? They's being sneaky. Buy your stuff now!

There was an increase related to VAT at some point. And then they levelled the prices off (or rounded them up).

That is as much as I have noticed from them.

Those are small increases IMO.
At least they aren't large price increases with decreased quality, like someone else we know... >.<

yeh they do increase there prices but nowhere near as much as workshop

Since when does Amazon stock Forge World?

Since when does Amazon not stock everything?

I was talking to a guy from Specialist Games at Games Day Chicago about metal/plastic/resin casting and such, and he spoke of the Price increases and how they are tied to the prices of commodities. One of the main reasons for GW switching over to all plastic/finecast is because metal miniatures have a high tin content, and tin is a commodity. Resin prices are relatively static and the oil used to produce styrene is less significant cost-wise. Resin casting allows them to bypass that all together and we get the benefit by allowing more plastic and resin products to be available to us for a longer timeframe.

What do you mean decreased quality? Everything GW produces now is miles above what they used to produce quality-wise IMO. New technology has allowed better detailed kits that cost far less to produce than the old manual methods. multi-part kits are designed with 3D software that digitally cuts the molds so that we can have more kits available to us for longer periods of time.

If you are talking about the sculptors themselves, that is really an artistic judgment of quality rather than technical product quality.

I'm talking about the large number of complaints from Finecast.

Kanluwen wrote:Since when does Amazon stock Forge World?

Amazon doesn't stock ForgeWorld itself per se. It has a WishList feature and about a year ago they made the a tool so that you could import things onto your WishList from outside of the Amazon stores. I just went over to FW and added a few things.

alphaomega wrote:There was an increase related to VAT at some point. And then they levelled the prices off (or rounded them up).

That is as much as I have noticed from them.

This.

They also informed us about it through both the website and newsletter.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I'm talking about the large number of complaints from Finecast.

oh yeah...I'm not sure myself on that, maybe some initial QC issues. I have the Finecast Thraka, Yarrick, Lord Commissar, and Dwarf Lord and I haven't had any issues at all, they are all much better detailed than their metal counterparts.

Has GW been good on the Customer Service end with these complaints? Like FW is, readily replacing malformed or missing pieces?

dsteingass wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I'm talking about the large number of complaints from Finecast.

oh yeah...I'm not sure myself on that, maybe some initial QC issues. I have the Finecast Thraka, Yarrick, Lord Commissar, and Dwarf Lord and I haven't had any issues at all, they are all much better detailed than their metal counterparts.

Has GW been good on the Customer Service end with these complaints? Like FW is, readily replacing malformed or missing pieces?

As far as I know, yes. I've seen several instances though where both models were deformed in different spots and the persons just fused the good pieces together lol.
For someone like me though, who is a complete failure with exacto knives and greenstuff, I prefer metal. I couldn't fix the simplest resin issue without making the problem worse.
Plus I like the weight of the metal. I find that if I keep my metal deamon prince at my bedside at night that I feel more protected in the occurrence of a break-in/burglary where I could use the prince as a blunt weapon to overthrow the bandit in a hand to hand scuffle.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

dsteingass wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I'm talking about the large number of complaints from Finecast.

oh yeah...I'm not sure myself on that, maybe some initial QC issues. I have the Finecast Thraka, Yarrick, Lord Commissar, and Dwarf Lord and I haven't had any issues at all, they are all much better detailed than their metal counterparts.

Has GW been good on the Customer Service end with these complaints? Like FW is, readily replacing malformed or missing pieces?

As far as I know, yes. I've seen several instances though where both models were deformed in different spots and the persons just fused the good pieces together lol.
For someone like me though, who is a complete failure with exacto knives and greenstuff, I prefer metal. I couldn't fix the simplest resin issue without making the problem worse.
Plus I like the weight of the metal. I find that if I keep my metal deamon prince at my bedside at night that I feel more protected in the occurrence of a break-in/burglary where I could use the prince as a blunt weapon to overthrow the bandit in a hand to hand scuffle.

"Ima smash em wit muh Warhams!!" is not a valid self defense technique anymore than it is a valid way to resolve differences in a game.

Seriously, if you feel unsafe in your home, invest in a better neighborhood, an alarm system, a big loud dog. Something.

Clunky the Demon Prince will not save you.

Lt. Coldfire wrote: I find that if I keep my metal deamon prince at my bedside at night that I feel more protected in the occurrence of a break-in/burglary where I could use the prince as a blunt weapon to overthrow the bandit in a hand to hand scuffle.

I think you are listening to the whisperings of Slaneesh my friend. I think if it came down to that, you would in a split second choose NOT to ruin your paint job against the burgler and would opt to smash your evil alarm clock against his head instead.

Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done. All criminals expect an alarm system or Rex the rottweiler, but no one, and I mean no one, is going to expect being beaten by a deamon prince. The element of surprise is on my side.


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dsteingass wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote: I find that if I keep my metal deamon prince at my bedside at night that I feel more protected in the occurrence of a break-in/burglary where I could use the prince as a blunt weapon to overthrow the bandit in a hand to hand scuffle.

I think you are listening to the whisperings of Slaneesh my friend. I think if it came down to that, you would in a split second choose NOT to ruin your paint job against the burgler and would opt to smash your evil alarm clock against his head instead.

I have a spare unpainted metal DP just for the occasion.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done.

Fresno....murder capital of the world. Lols.

MightyGodzilla wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done.

Fresno....murder capital of the world. Lols.

I hope he never has to spend a night on the East Coast.

alphaomega wrote:There was an increase related to VAT at some point. And then they levelled the prices off (or rounded them up).

That is as much as I have noticed from them.

Yeah, VAT in the UK increased from 17.5% -> 20%, FW just rounded the figures so something that would cost £51.71 now costs £52.00 instead

Worglock wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done.

Fresno....murder capital of the world. Lols.

I hope he never has to spend a night on the East Coast.

I lived in South Carolina for 8 years. High five!

Living in America I got to say that the VAT confuses the hell out of me. It shouldn't, but it does. I wiki'd it a couple of months ago, still foggy. I just think of it as sales tax and leave it at that...Except that I'm not used to paying sales tax when I purchase outside of my state. I guess that's what gets me.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

Worglock wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done.

Fresno....murder capital of the world. Lols.

I hope he never has to spend a night on the East Coast.

I lived in South Carolina for 8 years. High five!

I mean the real East Coast. Baltimordor, Killadelphia, Loston.

Yeah but in those places you expect that coming. In Fresno you get murdered all sneaky like. Coming out of the SUBWAY with a 12" sammich.....BOOM!!!....Dead. Hobo has a sammich.

Be fair, an increase for VAT isn't a price 'hike'. £2 on top of £50 is nothing.

The price increase last year (nearly 20% on some items), and the leap for Finecost, were "hikes" because they far exceeded inflation and VAt issues.

MightyGodzilla wrote:Yeah but in those places you expect that coming. In Fresno you get murdered all sneaky like. Coming out of the SUBWAY with a 12" sammich.....BOOM!!!....Dead. Hobo has a sammich.

lol exactly. And I can guarantee that none of those who were attacked had a daemon prince on hand for protection. Who's to say that if they had one they wouldn't still be alive today?

Worglock wrote:
I mean the real East Coast. Baltimordor, Killadelphia, Loston.

New Goreleans is the reigning champion though, is it not?

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:Yeah but in those places you expect that coming. In Fresno you get murdered all sneaky like. Coming out of the SUBWAY with a 12" sammich.....BOOM!!!....Dead. Hobo has a sammich.

lol exactly. And I can guarantee that none of those who were attacked had a daemon prince on hand for protection. Who's to say that if they had one they wouldn't still be alive today?

Worglock wrote:
I mean the real East Coast. Baltimordor, Killadelphia, Loston.

New Goreleans is the reigning champion though, is it not?

Had to check. Looks like it is.

Worglock wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

dsteingass wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I'm talking about the large number of complaints from Finecast.

oh yeah...I'm not sure myself on that, maybe some initial QC issues. I have the Finecast Thraka, Yarrick, Lord Commissar, and Dwarf Lord and I haven't had any issues at all, they are all much better detailed than their metal counterparts.

Has GW been good on the Customer Service end with these complaints? Like FW is, readily replacing malformed or missing pieces?

As far as I know, yes. I've seen several instances though where both models were deformed in different spots and the persons just fused the good pieces together lol.
For someone like me though, who is a complete failure with exacto knives and greenstuff, I prefer metal. I couldn't fix the simplest resin issue without making the problem worse.
Plus I like the weight of the metal. I find that if I keep my metal deamon prince at my bedside at night that I feel more protected in the occurrence of a break-in/burglary where I could use the prince as a blunt weapon to overthrow the bandit in a hand to hand scuffle.

"Ima smash em wit muh Warhams!!" is not a valid self defense technique anymore than it is a valid way to resolve differences in a game.

Seriously, if you feel unsafe in your home, invest in a better neighborhood, an alarm system, a big loud dog. Something.

Clunky the Demon Prince will not save you.

The metal Chaos Dreadnought might. That damn thing's a brick!

Worglock, I've seen people require immediate medical attention after being assaulted by a Metal Model.

See: Kommando through the hand.

Worglock wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

Worglock wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Hey, I live in Fresno. We do what we do to get it done.

Fresno....murder capital of the world. Lols.

I hope he never has to spend a night on the East Coast.

I lived in South Carolina for 8 years. High five!

I mean the real East Coast. Baltimordor, Killadelphia, Loston.

But what about Murderapolis?

I figured FW would increases prices soon as GWS has jacked up theirs so much that, as another Dakkaroo pointed out, some items are actually cheaper from Forgeworld then are the GWS equivalents.

I'm pleasantly surprised the price hikes were so.. reasonable. 4% is a lot more palatable then some of GWS's more recent shenanigans.

Their GW kits are often cheaper, even adding in the postage (for the UK, anyway).
Kits just make it that much better.

[Update: I've been and checked, and their kits are now showing standard GW prices again.]
[Add on postage, and it'll cost more.]