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life.

Just found this on TTGN today

At some point during this month I will celebrate the seventh year of running Tabletop Gaming News. I suspect that I actually started my news blog some point sooner than that but the first blog posts I have in my archives date from September 5th, 2005. This is a fairly significant milestone for me because other than breathing and complaining I haven’t done any one job or project for as long as I have been working on TGN. And as much as I love the site and like finding and disseminating news about the hobby it is time for me to step aside and let a new team of people take Tabletop Gaming News into the future.

During the recent Fundraiser I received an email inquiring about selling TGN. After some back and forth discussions I decided, for several reasons, to not sell the site. Not only was the timing of the approach unfortunate but I had real reservations about walking away from a project that I have invested so much time and had become emotionally invested in as well. After about a month or so later two things happened that made me decide to change my mind.

The first was that I spent a rather pleasant morning with my twins talking to them about the things that they liked from a birthday party they went to in Vancouver some months before we moved. They had some very specific memories about it and they talked about what they liked, what they ate, the games they played and how they wanted, or didn’t want, some of these same things at their own birthday. They are not quite four yet and it was quite surprising to have such a pleasant conversation with them about a discrete subject for such a long time.

I also suffer from arthritis and in recent months my condition has been getting progressively worse. Especially in my hands. While I am certainly not at the point where I will have to give up painting, I can see a point where that may be a real possibility and I want to make sure that while I still can paint, and enjoy it, that I do so.

Over the years TGN has evolved into a hobby website that takes time away from my hobby and I think that now is an opportune time for me to take that time back and focus on my family and also to make sure that I am able to fully enjoy my hobby and participate in it. The twins are never going to be this age again and I want to have my mornings and afternoons free to talk to them about Thomas the Tank Engine, their favourite colours and how we make paper rolls into spy scopes. So with that in mind I contacted Ross Thompson at Cool Mini or Not and began negotiations, again, to sell the site to them.

That process was successful and we are now in the final stages of moving Tabletop Gaming News to a new server and having a new team take over managing the site and posting news.

My main aim is to ensure that there is a group of people that have the resources and the inclination to keep the site running. TGN takes a good chunk of time to maintain and expand and in the past year or so I have not really had the time to do this. While I think I have done a good job of keeping the site fresh with new content I have not been able to dedicate any time to updating the site, modifying the UI and adding features that people have requested. It is my belief that Ross and his team will have that time and be able to keep the site updated and expand it.

As dedicated as I have been to the site over the seven years that I have been running it, TGN has simply gotten to the point where it is too big for one person to do. Especially one person who can’t dedicate his full time and resources to it. Cool Mini or Not clearly have the resources and the manpower to dedicate to the site and take it forward. I will be staying on as Founding Editor of the site and will also be heading to events like Gen Con 2012 to cover it for the site. So I won’t be disappearing. This change in management also will let me concentrate on what I really like, writing reviews and opinions pieces about the hobby. So you can expect to see more of those from me in the future. For the next while though I will be concentrating on my twins, building railroads on the kitchen floor and, who knows, even painting some figures.

I am going to miss working as fully on TGN as I have but in the end I don’t think that I will miss the time away from this site as much as I would miss the time away from the twins.

I would like to ask that regular visitors to the site give Ross and his team time to find their own pace and style. They will most certainly not post news in the same fashion that I have but change is not necessarily a bad thing and I hope that people are able to give them an opportunity to put their own stamp on the site.

While I have often tried to emphasize that this site is built in large part by the feedback and comments of the community that participates in it I would ask that everyone gives the new team time to build their own workflow, find their own voice and style and then start to provide feedback. Give the new guys some time before you tell them what you think :-) But do make sure that you do provide them with clear, and constructive, feedback about what you think of their work and what you want the site to become. Readers are what a site is built on and its critical that you help to guide and form the site as it grows and expands.

This site wouldn’t be what it is today without the feedback and comments of the people that read it and I’d like to thank you all for your time, interest and commentary. TGN routinely gets more than half a million page views a month and it wouldn’t be able to do that without its fans and readers. There are a few people that I would like to specifically thank for their efforts.

Grant Hill has been quietly working in the background of this site for some time and I don’t think that people are as aware of his efforts as they should be. While our output of reviews has declined over the years since I stopped writing full-time, what reviews you do see are here because of Grant’s work. Effort that he has managed to put in while finishing a Phd., moving to and from the UK, looking for post-graduate position and managing time to start a family.

JP and the team from Battlefront literally rescued this site when it was booted from the VPN it ran on some years ago. Battlefront is a for-profit corporation and yet that didn’t stop JP from providing hosting for TGN out of the companies coffers. Battlefront asked for nothing in return and have never tried to use their support of the site to get more prominent placement for their news items or products. If you ever hear anyone comment negatively about Battlefront’s commitment to the hobby remember their support of this site, support born from only wanting to ensure that there was a hobby-wide source of news available.

My wife has put up with quite a lot over the years including me running to coffee shops during family holidays to post news and work on servers, me posting news while watching TV with her on the couch and any number of other mild to severe irritants related to my work on the site. Her patience and understanding have made it possible for me to work on TGN as long as I have.

Fantasy Flight Games have been a long-time advertiser with the site and the financial contribution they have made has made it possible for me to continue working on TGN over the years.

I have met (virtually and in the real world) a large number of people whom I would never had had the opportunity to meet and who have become, if not friends then, valued associates: Matt Hope, Tom Anders, Randall Bills, David Stansel-Garner, Jim Bailey, Justin McCoy, Nathan Caroland, Dan Weber, Ken Whitehurst, Bobby Stickel, Gregoire Boisbelaud, Steve Blease, Dave Taylor and probably a lot more people than I can safely remember. I hope I don’t offend anyone by not mentioning them but one of the greatest rewards of running this site is the vast number of inspired hobbyists, game developers, sculptors and manufacturers that I have had the pleasure of meeting over the years.


Quite sad to hear this. I've not been to fond of CMoN since they started selling mini's.

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Mixed feelings on this one, indeed.

Hope goes all well for him.



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With the choice between family and a hobby site that sucks time away from family and hobby... For me at least the choice is not hard.
I can only hope for the best for the guy and the site under new management.

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Montreal, Quebec

I suppose TTGN will not be one of my stops for news anymore.
Still, there is ttfix.

 
   
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Definitely wish him all the best - and thanks for the years of quality news, rumors and reports!

Not sure what to think of it becoming the 'news' arm of CMON.

And... "TTFIX"?
   
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Alpharius wrote:Definitely wish him all the best - and thanks for the years of quality news, rumors and reports!

Not sure what to think of it becoming the 'news' arm of CMON.

And... "TTFIX"?


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Thank you - much appreciated!
   
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NC

I understand that CMoN is not well-liked sue to the while NewWave.org fiasco, but they're still miniatures-oriented and company-neutral. At worst, we'll have the occasional post for those CMoN-only miniatures.

What exactly are people worried about that will change from TTGN being bought out by CMoN?
   
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For those of us who are either not familiar with or have forgotten, and without turning it into a 'they did/they did not' argument, what was the 'NewWave.Org fiasco'?

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Texas

I think it was something about CMON pairing up with some company except said company was not exactly a legitimation business and jipped a lot of money off of people

Or at least thats what I heard, I wasnt around when it happened


Anyways, I have no comment on this really. I'll just wait and see what happens

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NC

In a nutshell, NewWave.org was a site that sold miniatures. The owner's wife gained the business in a settlement and didn't care much about the business. They never ripped people off, but their shipping was terribly slow and oftentimes they didn't have anything in stock. They never returned calls/emails and there was uproar on the internet about customer support. Cool Mini Or Not bought NewWave or merged into it and started selling miniatures at the same time. The NewWave reputation stuck among some disgruntled customers [citation needed].

The above is my interpretation/memory of the issue based on forums and hearsay around the internet. Things may not be 100% true.

Either way, those days are long past. Aside from that whole ordeal, I am unsure why CMoN has a negative reputation.

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Absolutionis wrote:I am unsure why CMoN has a negative reputation.


Lots of angry Confrontation fans?

 
   
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NC

...wut?

Rackham exploded after deciding to abandon their fans and go into prepainted. CMoN has only brought back Confrontation.

What's there to hate? People should be celebrating this!

So much drama!
   
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Montreal, Quebec

It's not that they have a bad reputation, they are just biased since they sell miniatures.

 
   
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Norristown, PA

there's also The Miniatures Page if you want news, seems a lot more historical and indie stuff there though but still.

 
   
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Necros wrote:there's also The Miniatures Page if you want news, seems a lot more historical and indie stuff there though but still.


Yea but its a lot slower imo (recently)

Whereas TTGN would have 5-8 items per day, TMP would have 2-4 and would usually be slower than TTGN

 
   
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This is a shame, TTGN has been a daily stop for years now. Whilst I understand the reasons and it was a wise financial move. I can only see CMON taking this site down-hill

Thanks for the TTGfix site I think I have an adequate replacement

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"OMG! CHANGE IS BAD!"...I think people should wait and see. 90% of TTGN was posting news in a timely manner... CMON has more resources so it should be able to continue that. As far as I know the guy who ran TTGN only filtered out non-topics and otherwise distilled what was submitted to him. There no reason to expect that to change. Even if CMON decides to use TTGN as a mouth piece to promote its own miniatures as long as it continues to provide the same quality of gaming news as TTGN currently does, I see no reason to stop going there.

It was built and made successful because one man was dedicated... but its been stuck in place because it was limited by the fact he was just one man. I see this as a good thing, while it might inject more inconsistencies, it will no longer be dependent on a single individual. That means we could just as easily see many more postings per day than we currently do. It means the postings can be more involved and their can be more in the way of features and interview pieces. I'm not saying they become BoLS, but TTGN can be more without destroying what it was.

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TTGN has always been a great site, and aside from when their RSS feeds dont play nice with us, we've had a feed from them on our home page for ages now thanks to the high quality news they provide.

CMON are also a great company now, and from their adepticon contest and prizes to their ever improving store and mini range, I'm happy to see them taking the reigns and think that it will be a positive development for TTGN.

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I doubt CMON will be able to resist trying to make money off TGN. In a more substantial way than a discreet banner or two, I mean.

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MunkeyKungFu wrote:This is a shame, TTGN has been a daily stop for years now. Whilst I understand the reasons and it was a wise financial move. I can only see CMON taking this site down-hill

Thanks for the TTGfix site I think I have an adequate replacement


I have complete confindance in Ross's ability to keep TTGN going strong, I know him personally, he is a man who is dedicated to all aspects of the hobby, he has more contacts within the hobby then anyone i've ever met. In my opinion TTGN is in good hands.


 
   
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TTGN is part of my daily browsing and I cant imagine the hobby losing it... CMON convergence of all things mini is not a positive thing but hey...

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I don't really have anything against CMON.. I've always liked their site in general, the whole mini voting thing. I could get lost on there for hours just voting on minis all day long.

 
   
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NAVARRO wrote:TTGN is part of my daily browsing and I cant imagine the hobby losing it... CMON convergence of all things mini is not a positive thing but hey...


What makes you think your going to loose it... CMON doesn't really play favorites and news is news.


 
   
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This doesn't surprise me in the least.
CMON seems to be looking to expand. On a number of occasions, they've expressed interest in buying Bartertown (once, even approachig me to buy it lol).
I expect to see more news like this over the years.

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Catyrpelius wrote:
NAVARRO wrote:TTGN is part of my daily browsing and I cant imagine the hobby losing it... CMON convergence of all things mini is not a positive thing but hey...


What makes you think your going to loose it... CMON doesn't really play favorites and news is news.


TTGN as we know it is not going to continue... so whatever new format or owner it adopts its always going to be... different. I don't mind the changing but looking at the mess that cmon browsing interface is I fear for the worst... that and CMON using the news to pump their store. But we have to wait and see first.

   
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It's not like CMoN is a miniatures company themselves. They sell a huge variety of miniatures and do not favor one company over another. CMoN is company neutral.
   
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Not exactly. They sell thier own brand for profit, and hence are predisposed to making money on thier personal products.

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Personally I visit Cool Mini or Not often, and I enjoy their site. It's sorely in need of some development, but it's got a good community, and it's a great place to go for painting articles. Personally I also LIKE that they sell things, since frequently they sell the same kind of products that some of the artists use in their work.

If you read an article an artist wrote and they mention using a certain specific brush or paint, a lot of times CMON stocks it in their store. Pretty convenient.

Looks like a good merge to me.
   
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Absolutionis wrote:It's not like CMoN is a miniatures company themselves. They sell a huge variety of miniatures and do not favor one company over another. CMoN is company neutral.


lord marcus wrote:Not exactly. They sell thier own brand for profit, and hence are predisposed to making money on thier personal products.


Lord marcus nailed it and by definition if you have a business in the industry your everything but neutral.

   
 
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