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Hello everyone,

So the question is Stonehorn or Thundertusk?

1Which one do you like better?

2 Which one do you think is more effective?

3 An army list with either or both in it.

4 (If 3 was answered) What is their purpose in the army.

So ya I would like to know what you all think.
Feel free to add anything that comes to mind about the subject such as cool things yours has done/things you have seen, or possibly fun and or competitive ideas how to run either creature.

If you have some Bulls with ironfist set up ( or anything without always strike last rule like ironguts ) , use thundertusk.
Against enemy units with horde set up ( they usually dont have too much extra rank )
the always strike last aura could actually mean they dont have the optimized number to all strike back since they died first.

For example, thundertusk goes well sitting between 2 lead belcher units.

Stonetusk has cool fluffy rules but... extra killy stuff are common in O.K army anyways.

Ok makes sense.

I was thinking of running a tusk between my main IG unit and the bull unit just to slow things down a little and make sure the ogres all get to attack.

Also the blast thing that it does seems pretty sweet could make a mess of hordes even with just str 3

I always thought 2+ Stonehorns would be scary, since the multiple wounds thing is halved, but for pure utility, go Thundertusk.

It has a D3 multi wound for the ice thrower as well.
Though im not sure if it applies to the S3 or just the S6 center

Does the stone thrower do d6 wounds if its not under the center hole?

Still the template is useful and asl seems like such an awesome thing to have.

cowpow16 wrote:Does the stone thrower do d6 wounds if its not under the center hole?

Still the template is useful and asl seems like such an awesome thing to have.

Ahh there we go, checked BRB as well.

Str 3 (6) Multiple Wound D3

So D3 only applies to the str 6 hole

Ok still if shooting a horde or a long bus and getting a hit would be pretty effective.

The main thing is getting the chilling aura close to combat.

Also if you get asf through lore of light and that thing is sitting next to the unit would they strike at initiative or would they go last?

Since they are not HE how would that work?

cowpow16 wrote:Ok still if shooting a horde or a long bus and getting a hit would be pretty effective.

The main thing is getting the chilling aura close to combat.

Also if you get asf through lore of light and that thing is sitting next to the unit would they strike at initiative or would they go last?

Since they are not HE how would that work?

ASL cancels out ASF, then its all done via initiative.

Ok sounds good.

I am quite interested in the tusk since seing last game that would have made a huge difference making my ogres go first or simo.

Still seems like it will get targeted a lot. still super sick model.

I wonder if Mounrfangs are tall enough to shield Thundertusks.

They should be but they would be able to take the banner that has the asl breath weapon thing and then they dont need the tusk.

But they should be able to give it hard cover.

1: Stonehorn. Its just the coolest thing since Age of Empires.

2: really hard to say, although I favor the Stonehorn simply because its simpler to use. The Thundertusk's ASL aura is nice, but it only effecting models and not units is a big bummer. the 6" range also slightly conflicts with it's 3 good shooting attacks. It really needs to be in a combat to have a huge effect on it, but its shooting and 5+ armor wants it to hang back and fire.

3: Both if you can fit it, although not at the expense of taking Ironblasters.

4: Stonehorn is supposed to combo-charge along with another of your units and rack up combat resolution. It will help your Bulls to break the enemy in a single round while the Bulls will take hits and protect the Stonehorn.

Thundertusk: This is a little tougher. you want it to be close to your combats, but you also want to take advantage of its 3 ranged attacks. Early game: it advances with everyone else and fires at enemy blocks to reduce their numbers OR it can target smaller things like redirectors or single model monsters. it isn't horrible in combat either with 2 ogres and the monsters attacks and thunderstomp.

Yes the stonehorn is super cool.
But I wouldnt want it as a single monster it needs a friend.

The asl would be great because if these bulls are in just some combat and they dont have regen they die fast so them striking first would be awesome and possibly killing enough of them to make a huge difference.

Still those models are both super cool.

1. I like the stonehorn model
2. I think the TT is more effective.
3. I usually run 10 bulls w/ 2 charcters, 5 guts w/ 1 character, 4 mournfang, gnoblar trappers, TT.
4. The TT walks behind/between my bulls and IGs, shooting & providing ASL. Then if necessary, it charges into a flank for extra combat res/wounds. It usually dies pretty quick once in CC.

Thanks for the input.
I personaly like the idea of having it around the teplate and the asl I think it wouldn't do half bad if the big version of troll guts is cast it with regen shouldn't be too easy to kill.

1. Like em both.
2. I think the stonhorn is more effective
3. I think they complement mournfang well, so I tend to take them together.
Here's a 2400 pt list
Slaughtermaster (Beasts)
Bruiser BSB
Butcher
10 Ogres
8 Ironguts
10 gnoblars
3x1 Sabretusks
4 mournfang cav
1 Stonehorn
2x1 Ironblasters
4. Stonehorn uses terror or impact hits to clear out redirectors. Artillery magnet. Tie up and take down cav. Dualcharge with fangs.

cowpow16 wrote:Thanks for the input.
I personaly like the idea of having it around the teplate and the asl I think it wouldn't do half bad if the big version of troll guts is cast it with regen shouldn't be too easy to kill.

I find that you can't count on getting trollguts off ever. Enemies know you have that spell and will usually do everything in their power to stop it. I have come to the conclusion that trollguts can't be part of my strategy - I treat it as a bonus if I get it off.

I have figured that out too now seeing a few horrible magic phases where i get 3 or 4 dice and its just like well great.

I usually only get Trollguts off if I go for an IF, and always boosted. We can take miscasts on the chin most of the time.

Ya for sure next thing i have to remember is to do the lore attribute thing where i get a wound back totally forgot that last game.

i have a stonehorn with a hunter as the rider and it is very nasty....but it is better used to hit enemy units in the flank or rear.

I would agree with that.

The way im thinking of it is with the thundertusk it drops a couple templates then sits around my bulls and Ig to make everything slow.

Imo the stonehorn is incredibly better, halving multi-wound wounds taken is just insane, and it owns in combat... I have yet to see someone take the thundertusk in-person, unfortunately!

Unfortunantly I think the Thundertusk suffers from "More Awsome Model Syndrome"

It shares the box, and body parts, with the Stonehorn. Which looks 10 times cooler.


I think they are about the same effectivness at the end of the day.

Like I said befor I use a stonehorn in my army and I will have a thundertusk too. I found out that a stonehorn going head to head with a terrorgheist didn't go good for the stonehorn

Well, its not a monster killer. It is meant to ram into infantry alongside a bunch of ogres to just totally steamroll one unit at a time.

I have only run the stonehorn once so far when I was new to ogres and that didnt go too well.

Still I think the Asl aura can do a lot for an ogre army. I mean Ogres going first against non gw troops seems like good times.

Don't take either, unless you have the points for both Ironblasters too.

-Matt

Very true those things rock.
Another box of fangs (for a total of 4) and then my second blaster those things are way too sweet.