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Has Orks ever Surrendered in Battle or have they always fought too the last man?

They either fight to the last man or run away. No surrender.

Orks never surrender or lose

If an ork win, he wins. If an ork runs away, its only to get more boyz to fight again. If a ork dies, well he is dead it doesn't count.

That being said, orks are also never given the oppertunity to surrender if they even wanted too.

The only one you can surrender to in 40k is Tau.
Everybody else is just going to kill you.

Orks are MADE for War, Fighting, Killing and Dying. No retreat for them.

Brother Coa wrote:Orks are MADE for War, Fighting, Killing and Dying. No retreat for them.

If they never retreated, they wouldn't have to explain why retreating doesn't make them lose.

Brother Coa wrote:The only one you can surrender to in 40k is Tau.
Everybody else is just going to kill you.

Orks are MADE for War, Fighting, Killing and Dying. No retreat for them.

You can surrender to chaos and dark eldar, but I really don't think you want to.

Mr Nobody wrote:You can surrender to chaos and dark eldar, but I really don't think you want to.

^This

Mr Nobody wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:The only one you can surrender to in 40k is Tau.
Everybody else is just going to kill you.

Orks are MADE for War, Fighting, Killing and Dying. No retreat for them.

You can surrender to chaos and dark eldar, but I really don't think you want to.

My point was to surrender to someone who will treat you like POW not shoot you or rape you then shoot you.

Brother Coa wrote:

Mr Nobody wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:The only one you can surrender to in 40k is Tau.
Everybody else is just going to kill you.

Orks are MADE for War, Fighting, Killing and Dying. No retreat for them.

You can surrender to chaos and dark eldar, but I really don't think you want to.

My point was to surrender to someone who will treat you like POW not shoot you or rape you then shoot you.

Surrender is still surrender...
You can technically surrender to anything and anyone...
The only thing that will surrender is possibly IG to Tau...

IG wouldn't accept a surrender, they shoot their own men for wasting ammunition. Xenos, Heretics, Mutants, they get no mercy.

With the new Necron Fluff, a honorable Space Marine might get treated as a POW by the Necrons. There's stuff in there about Overlords treating enemy commanders as honored captives.

As long as you were useful you could surrender to anybody really (cept the nids I guess... Unless you count getting digested surrendering).

The whole, rah rah, kill everyone is great on the surface, but tactical situations would dictate how to deal with an enemy combatant surrendering. Intel is key.

Orks don't surrender. They will retreat and/or fall back to bolster their numbers to have another go. But Orks just do not say "We give up, take us in."

LumenPraebeo wrote:

Mr Nobody wrote:You can surrender to chaos and dark eldar, but I really don't think you want to.

^This

An eternity of brutal torture...? No... thanks... I think I'd rather die.

Attempt to surrender to any of the following and:

-Imperium (Space Marines, IG, SoB, Arbites, Inquisition, etc.): DIE HERETIC/XENOS/MUTANT FILTH and a laser bolt in the head most of the time. SM or IG may capture/torture you for intelligence though, then kill you. AdMec will turn you into a servitor or grind you up into natural resources.

-Chaos: Will use you as a slave or a sacrifice for daemonic rituals. Dark Apostle/Storm of Iron show just how unpleasant it is to be a Chaos slave. Pray they're not Emperor's Children or Bile or you're in for an even worse time.

-Orks: Most of the time it's LOL and a shoota to the head, though if it isn't in the head of battle you'll probably get worked to death as a slave

-Eldar: Shuriken in the head after you put your hands up. The Path of the Warrior book actually has a scene where an Administratum adept tries to surrender to a Dire Avenger and gets executed

-Dark Eldar: lol, one doesn't even need to start. Just kill yourself

-Tyranids: Om Nom nom

-Necrons: If you're honorable and fought well you're a "honored captive" (oh Matt Ward)

-Tau: POW camp, probably for a heavy dose of re-education and propaganda about the Greater Good.

Harriticus wrote:Attempt to surrender to any of the following and:

-Imperium (Space Marines, IG, SoB, Arbites, Inquisition, etc.): DIE HERETIC/XENOS/MUTANT FILTH and a laser bolt in the head most of the time. SM or IG may capture/torture you for intelligence though, then kill you. AdMec will turn you into a servitor or grind you up into natural resources.

-Chaos: Will use you as a slave or a sacrifice for daemonic rituals. Dark Apostle/Storm of Iron show just how unpleasant it is to be a Chaos slave. Pray they're not Emperor's Children or Bile or you're in for an even worse time.

-Orks: Most of the time it's LOL and a shoota to the head, though if it isn't in the head of battle you'll probably get worked to death as a slave

-Eldar: Shuriken in the head after you put your hands up. The Path of the Warrior book actually has a scene where an Administratum adept tries to surrender to a Dire Avenger and gets executed

-Dark Eldar: Pray they don't take you alive

-Tyranids: Om Nom nom

-Necrons: If you're honorable and fought well you're a "honored captive" (oh Matt Ward)

-Tau: POW camp, probably for a heavy dose of re-education and propaganda about the Greater Good.

Fix'd

Harriticus wrote:IG wouldn't accept a surrender

This is definitely not true.

The IG are perfectly willing to accept an unconditional surrender, so that the Imperium can re-educate the planet in the name of the Emperor. And in the very rare occasions that an alien race isn't hostile to the Imperium, the IG typically doesn't war against them in the first place...

Orks probably arent smart enough to surrender, and im not sure that they would even want to given how much they love to fight

Orks whould have to be able to surrender. Orks solve problems by fighting. If no one yielded, then they would never get there command structure to work.

They might not surrender, but they -will- run away whenever I play with em', damn morale checks. 1-4 orks just don't stand a chance. Confidence in the crowd, pussies

nomotog wrote:Orks whould have to be able to surrender. Orks solve problems by fighting. If no one yielded, then they would never get there command structure to work.

Being knocked unconscious and/or unable to fight isn't the same as surrendering.

Nope.

Fighting maniacally til death.

smaller, gutless examples may flee...

AvatarForm wrote:Nope.

Fighting maniacally til death.

smaller, gutless examples may flee...

Err, actually tactical retreat is an Orky plan, so that they can come back with more gunz, more boyz, and more wagonz.

What Ork wouldn't like a bigger, better war?

Melissia wrote:

nomotog wrote:Orks whould have to be able to surrender. Orks solve problems by fighting. If no one yielded, then they would never get there command structure to work.

Being knocked unconscious and/or unable to fight isn't the same as surrendering.

Ya but if you have to knock out all your troops then they can't fight. At the very least orks need to be able to cry uncle.

They don't need to knock them out. Most of the boyz are glad to follow under a right proppa nob/boss/lord. It's only other nobs/bosses/lords that really need krumpin'.

Orks think they're superior, but they aren't

Drazhar_Incubus2512 wrote:Orks think they're superior, but they aren't

Well, except that they have the galaxy's most stable society, biology even tougher than that of the Astartes, and the fact that they've taken over the majority of the galaxy.

Drazhar_Incubus2512 wrote:Orks think they're superior, but they aren't

Which is why they are the most powerful, numerous, and successful race in the galaxy.

Face it, they already won. In the future, there is only war.

When an entire galaxy is coloured Green, the Orks have pretty much won.

Melissia wrote:

Drazhar_Incubus2512 wrote:Orks think they're superior, but they aren't

Well, except that they have the galaxy's most stable society, biology even tougher than that of the Astartes, and the fact that they've taken over the majority of the galaxy.

Possibly even the universe, it's mentioned in one of the codices I think. A probe was sent out there thousands of years back, and it still gives off a faint signal after all that time, the feedback they're getting all seems to be "of Orkish nature".

Superior -and- unbeatable, I say!

Have the Nids been thrown into this match?