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Hey everybody I was wondering whether someone could find out the narrowest I could get the line from the GW Spray Gun to, preferably with photo evidence. The problem is I don't want to invest in a full on airbrush but I want something which can get the middle line bit going down a tau tank (even if there is a little overspill).

Could just mark off the edges. I'm not sure of the coverage but you'll likely be doing light sweeps anyway.

As n0t_u said, just masking tape the areas you don't want to spray.

Thanks guys I was already thinking this but I was wondering whether someone could give me at least an estimate if they have one?

I've got one, there not very good full stop, use masking tape if you want to keep areas neat.

Still doesn't answer my question haha, I need numbers people D: Can't someone spray some paper or something and figure it out? :/

if your masking off the area, what does it matter how fine a line it sprays?

Its designed for base coating and tanks so its not going to be fine.

Well it matters as I haven't bought one yet and I don't want to get it if the thinnest line its going to do is 5cm wide, in that case I would think its not worth the effort and stick to brushing. Basically I want the info because I'm weird like that, so could someone tell me please? Just humour my idiocy ^_^

Heya,

I bought one as I didn't want to buy an AB.
I used it several times (2-3) and I finally bought an AB.
Fact is, the GW Spray Gun is just good for the basecoat, and even for that, it's not that fine.
When i bought it, i was worrying about the price of the cans, I never finished my first one... but as I remember, the can runs empty really fast as mine is almost empty (i basecoated a HH and a DF and some kroots...)
I'm really happy with my AB, and it wasn't that expensive all in all.

Cheers.

stop being cheap, you get what you pay for and nobody likes cheap people.

An airbrush is worth every penny. It is such an invaluable tool that I don't know how I got by without one.

Just on my DE spearmen and crossbowmen it saved me about 4 hours of hand brushing chainmail as I did 65 models in about a half hour for their base coat. And I'll end up using it to wash those same models in bulk with a black wash.

Then there's my dragon, my hydra, harpies, the skin on my 60 orcs that took all of 20 minutes.

And then there's priming. Airbrushed primer is the best, perfect coverage yet thin and doesn't cover over fine detail.

Now if you play 40k and you are hand brushing tanks, you are a fool. Airbrushes are perfect for tanks, no brush stroke lines, even coverage and record time to get one painted up.

clidefr0g wrote:stop being cheap, you get what you pay for and nobody likes cheap people.

nobody likes flamers....

but yes the gw spray gun is designed for base coating. anykind of precise lines and such will be rather difficult with gw paint brush

Orikl wrote:

clidefr0g wrote:stop being cheap, you get what you pay for and nobody likes cheap people.

nobody likes flamers....

but yes the gw spray gun is designed for base coating. anykind of precise lines and such will be rather difficult with gw paint brush

Basically it is a waste of money. The gun is $30 and ONE can of air is $9.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Precision-0-3mm-Tip-DUAL-ACTION-Gravity-Feed-AIRBRUSH-GUN-Paint-Tattoo-Hobby-/390365392386?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae3972e02

$33 with free shipping, has a .3 needle which is good enough to do smaller detail or full on base coating. Comes with the hose needed and a 1 year warranty. Now, you can use canned air still, or spend a wopping $80(the price of about 9 cans of air) for a permanent air solution http://www.harborfreight.com/1-8-eighth-hp-40-psi-oilless-airbrush-compressor-93657.html

So for $113 you get a decent quality permanent airbrushing solution that does a broad scope of work, or for 1/3 the price you get a base coat only gun with enough air to do maybe 3 or 4 units total.

Orikl wrote:

clidefr0g wrote:stop being cheap, you get what you pay for and nobody likes cheap people.

nobody likes flamers....

but yes the gw spray gun is designed for base coating. anykind of precise lines and such will be rather difficult with gw paint brush

People really don't like cheap dumbasses....

let's leave the digs and name calling out of it please.

Thanks.

I'm Australian, that means you have to double/triple every single price, for example that $33 airbrush with free shipping actually has a $38 shipping price.


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I also like how no one has bothered to answer my question, I don't give a **** about your mothers name, what airbrush your uncle uses or how your grandaddy used to touch you when you slept, I just wanted to know how thin I could get the line.
I've already made my decision and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the Iwata Neo for $60 (which is only $5 more than the GW flamer), as I already have a good compressor, but I still wish to get my question answered lol.

Since it seems no one cares for the GW Spray gun, is this a good deal and which one would you recommend?
http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/iwreaiwinije.html

Or, does what Aerethan suggested sound better? (comparing quality vs price)

I recently got a $AUD180 (free, from a supplier of mine, so, awesome), but when I was looking for a hose and some connectors for my compressor, I saw that Supercheap Auto has two types of airbrushes. A single-action that costs around $20, and a double-action that costs around $40-60, can't remember, but it would probably be wise to invest in something like that instead.

sure, they're genero-brand, but you'd probably get better use, and more importantly practice, from them than you would from the GW gun.

Another note regarding cans, as the can empties they'll lose pressure, hence spraying will be affected. Where as a compressor will go until you switch it off.

TalonDraukner wrote:Since it seems no one cares for the GW Spray gun, is this a good deal and which one would you recommend?
http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/iwreaiwinije.html

Or, does what Aerethan suggested sound better? (comparing quality vs price)

What I've found in my search is that you have three good beginner choices depending on your price range. From lowest price to highest: Iwata Neo, Badger 100LG, Iwata HS-CS. Those three ones are meant to be good value and quite a few people use the HS CS as their jack of all trades brush.

clidefr0g wrote:stop being cheap, you get what you pay for and nobody likes cheap people.

Some people cant afford anything more or have other priorities, theres no need to insult them.

Basically you will find that it will spray no better than a can of spray paint. To go beyond the originaql question this is not suitable to for what you are planning. It will spray so much paint that it will probably pool and flow beyond/between any masking that you have in place.

So as you seem to realsie an AB is more suited to your needs.

If money is a problem you can pick up real cheap kits like this. I have one from this lot and its mustard, an Iwata copy I beleive. You should also find that being made fairly local to you (China) you will be able to pick it up easily or take advatage of the strong OZ$ (your triple price complaint is wrong btw you have it much better than most).

Brainybones wrote:
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I also like how no one has bothered to answer my question, I don't give a **** about your mothers name, what airbrush your uncle uses or how your grandaddy used to touch you when you slept, I just wanted to know how thin I could get the line.
I've already made my decision and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the Iwata Neo for $60 (which is only $5 more than the GW flamer), as I already have a good compressor, but I still wish to get my question answered lol.

Congrats on being the first person on my ban list!

Brainybones wrote:I'm Australian, that means you have to double/triple every single price, for example that $33 airbrush with free shipping actually has a $38 shipping price.


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I also like how no one has bothered to answer my question, I don't give a **** about your mothers name, what airbrush your uncle uses or how your grandaddy used to touch you when you slept, I just wanted to know how thin I could get the line.
I've already made my decision and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the Iwata Neo for $60 (which is only $5 more than the GW flamer), as I already have a good compressor, but I still wish to get my question answered lol.

As thin as this:

notprop wrote:Basically you will find that it will spray no better than a can of spray paint. To go beyond the originaql question this is not suitable to for what you are planning. It will spray so much paint that it will probably pool and flow beyond/between any masking that you have in place.

So as you seem to realsie an AB is more suited to your needs.

If money is a problem you can pick up real cheap kits like this. I have one from this lot and its mustard, an Iwata copy I beleive. You should also find that being made fairly local to you (China) you will be able to pick it up easily or take advatage of the strong OZ$ (your triple price complaint is wrong btw you have it much better than most).

Thank you, that at least went some way to answering my question I know the AUD is pretty strong atm, but one of the main problems I've found is most people charge so much for shipping it becomes pointless buying from overseas in some cases. Thanks a lot for the help

Skippy wrote:

Brainybones wrote:
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I also like how no one has bothered to answer my question, I don't give a **** about your mothers name, what airbrush your uncle uses or how your grandaddy used to touch you when you slept, I just wanted to know how thin I could get the line.
I've already made my decision and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the Iwata Neo for $60 (which is only $5 more than the GW flamer), as I already have a good compressor, but I still wish to get my question answered lol.

Congrats on being the first person on my ban list!

I got on the ban list for being frustrated at no one answering my question? Its no skin off my back if you ban me, I only use these forums to ask questions anyways. Do I get an achievement for being your first? Maybe a medal?

Maybe you're not getting the hint, but you're sounding like a douche with your replies. People tend to not answer douches out of spite. You could have worded it differently, but no you didn't. Rememer the first rule of Dakka: be polite.

heartserenade wrote:Maybe you're not getting the hint, but you're sounding like a douche with your replies. People tend to not answer douches out of spite. You could have worded it differently, but no you didn't. Rememer the first rule of Dakka: be polite.

Agreed.

It might not seem it, but people have been somewhat clear in their replies, that to get a fine line like what you were implying, you need to mask off the area. Common Sense says it can't do fine lines. Considering it is a Games Workshop Spray Gun. Which a simple google search would provide your answer faster than waiting

For a fine line, use a better airgun, or as people say mask it off. I have yet to actually buy one myself. But if a GW employee refers someone to the store next door for a "better airgun at the same price" (Which I see in my area a lot) You know its a POS.

It's a spray gun, like an aerosol can. You won't be able to do lines unless you're painting something the size of a house.

The other thing to note is that if you're concerned about cost, air brushes are not cheap to use. They are thirsty on paint, much of it goes to waste through testing and set up, cleaning and all that during use that simply gets sprayed but doesn't land on the model.

Also a compressor is much better than cans, more reliable. My experience with cans is mostly negative.

heartserenade and Tazay, if you look at my first couple of replies I tried to be civil but started getting frustrated. I had said I realised I could mask it off but I had still wanted to know the width, thankfully I found a good airbrush which is about the same price.

Howard I kind of figured, but I'm willing to buy a bit more paint if it means I can paint my models a bit faster. Thankfully I already have a compressor so cans won't be a problem

Ouch, usually people here on Dakka are a bit better at answering stuff, but this thread seemed to have boiled down into a couple things:

Flamers (the useless kind that don't work on Tyranids)

and

airbrush specialists

Yeah, gotta up the politeness level. If nobody here is really gonna answer, I learned long ago that "Google" is your friend. Try searching "Games Workshop Spraygun Review" on google and youtube, and you'd get your answer long before this flame-war got rockin', see what I'm saying?

Anyway,
Answer:

The GW gun is a siphon feed style "airbrush" and from my experience will only hand out a minimum line width of (if you're REALLY lucky) 1.5 inches (3.81 cm).
Again, even airbrush users mask off areas, because the edges of the spray won't be hard lines. We just prefer to call it stenciling.

Good luck painting dude.

I think calling it an airbrush is misleading since that hints of control that just isnt there. It is more accurate to call it a spray gun(arguably also part of the airbrush family); the brutish offspring of airbrushes.

edit: I notice that I was steering OT also, I want to confirm Fenrirs approximate line width. I believe that you need an airbrush for what you want to accomplish, although even the cheap models and cheap compressors should do fine.