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I didn't know weather to post this here or news and rumors so i hope i don't get chewed out

Anyways, I'm a little worried about what/how much might get changed with the new Tau codex. My primary worry might be that they might change the battlesuit design, EVERY design, and that the battle suits are going to look more smooth and rounded. Which will look more like anime :l. plus i'm afraid that the new codex will screw the tau over. What are your thoughts?

As long as they leave the kroot and broadsides alone, I'm fine with just about anything else they do.

In the newest rumor thread, it looks like it may be viable to run pure Kroot/ Vespid/ Squat Demuirg armies.

And battlesuit squad size looks like it'll be at least 5 now.

Depends on whether a particular man who's initials are M.W writes it.

I like the battlesuits as they are now. I don't want them to change. Worst they could do is redo them in fine cast. :O

There is always the risk of things going completely fubar, but one persons fubar is another persons new favoriteist thing.

nomotog wrote:I like the battlesuits as they are now. I don't want them to change. Worst they could do is redo them in fine cast. :O

There is always the risk of things going completely fubar, but one persons fubar is another persons new favoriteist thing.

Ahhh, you understand me. all i want is some new units and plastic kits for vespid.

Well the newcrons are the king of shooting, horrible in assualt. At least ward intended. So i wonder where this will leave the tau.

nomotog wrote:
one persons fubar is another persons new favoriteist thing.

You struck a nerve right there. Because I really, really like the dreadknight. You know what they could change that I'd fall in love with, but some people would jump up and down on? Make it so the Tau aren't confined to where they are now and make their history a lot longer. My idea was to make the Tau uniforms more customizable to reflect different parts of the empire. No matter what happens with the Tau, someones gonna be mad.

Better at shooting, worse in assault.


There are like 6 Space Marine books, I think 40k can weather 3 armies that rock at shooting but die in droves to CC (IG, Tau, Crons)

King Crow wrote:

nomotog wrote:I like the battlesuits as they are now. I don't want them to change. Worst they could do is redo them in fine cast. :O

There is always the risk of things going completely fubar, but one persons fubar is another persons new favoriteist thing.

Ahhh, you understand me. all i want is some new units and plastic kits for vespid.

I want lots of new drones. Updated rules. Though with battlesuits, we already have plastic kits. That's about as good as you can get with battlesuits. Only thing that could make them better is the ability to have them move there knees. And more bits for the wargear they have.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Better at shooting, worse in assault.

Make them even worse in assault? Can it be done?

CuddlySquig wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Better at shooting, worse in assault.

Make them even worse in assault? Can it be done?

WS1.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:

CuddlySquig wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Better at shooting, worse in assault.

Make them even worse in assault? Can it be done?

WS1.

You wouldn't dare! :O

CuddlySquig wrote:

nomotog wrote:
one persons fubar is another persons new favoriteist thing.

You struck a nerve right there. Because I really, really like the dreadknight. You know what they could change that I'd fall in love with, but some people would jump up and down on? Make it so the Tau aren't confined to where they are now and make their history a lot longer. My idea was to make the Tau uniforms more customizable to reflect different parts of the empire. No matter what happens with the Tau, someones gonna be mad.

I like that idea. The tau are seen as a little too confined and uniform. Different parts of the empire beveling and acting differently whould add some much wished for verity. I actually think this might happen as far as fluff goes. One of the changes they seem to be pushing on armies is more verity.


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King Crow wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:

CuddlySquig wrote:

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Better at shooting, worse in assault.

Make them even worse in assault? Can it be done?

WS1.

You wouldn't dare! :O

Someone has to have WS 1, it might as well be the worst melee fighters in the game.

It might be a tiny step toward balancing it with the inevitable codex creep. Given the rate of codex creep in 5th, I think the next Tau codex is gonna be full of killy toys. Maybe another blunting of the Tau's proverbial sword might help.

King Crow wrote:I didn't know weather to post this here or news and rumors so i hope i don't get chewed out

Anyways, I'm a little worried about what/how much might get changed with the new Tau codex. My primary worry might be that they might change the battlesuit design, EVERY design, and that the battle suits are going to look more smooth and rounded. Which will look more like anime :l. plus i'm afraid that the new codex will screw the tau over. What are your thoughts?

Well it's good you didn't post in news and rumors; it's for posting news and rumors, not asking questions. You posted in the right place!

Why don't you want them to change the battlesuit design? The kit is really limited for posing, has horrible ankles that snap from a light breeze, and the aesthetic doesn't fit with the Tau aesthetic very well at all. Also "smooth and rounded" doesn't necessarily mean it will look too anime. If there's one thing GW's been getting right more than wrong these days, it's model design. I wouldn't worry too much. Also, why would you think the new codex will screw the Tau over? They're already the worst army in the game now that Necrons got updated, and have a hard time fighting just about anyone. Even if Tau got a codex in line with the Tyranid codex, it would be equally if not more competitive than the outdated codex they have now.

Personally, I think the new codex will be a middle of the road dex like Necrons or non-MSU spam Dark Eldar. We'll get new toys to play with and I'm sure most of the kits will be versatile and well designed. I'm pretty optimistic because there's already enough Tau stuff to base new designs on, but there's so much room for expansion and improvement they could do just about anything. I'd love for Kelly to write it, but if Ward wrote it I'd be fine. I think Cruddace would be a decent pick given his IG codex, but so far he's hit and miss with his codices. If he stepped up his game I think he could do a decent job.

Fyi, Matt Ward is NOT writing your codex. Mr. Crud is.

I hope it doesn't turn into a crud-dance (ba-dum-psh)

Brother SRM wrote:

King Crow wrote:I didn't know weather to post this here or news and rumors so i hope i don't get chewed out

Anyways, I'm a little worried about what/how much might get changed with the new Tau codex. My primary worry might be that they might change the battlesuit design, EVERY design, and that the battle suits are going to look more smooth and rounded. Which will look more like anime :l. plus i'm afraid that the new codex will screw the tau over. What are your thoughts?

Well it's good you didn't post in news and rumors; it's for posting news and rumors, not asking questions. You posted in the right place!

Why don't you want them to change the battlesuit design? The kit is really limited for posing, has horrible ankles that snap from a light breeze, and the aesthetic doesn't fit with the Tau aesthetic very well at all. Also "smooth and rounded" doesn't necessarily mean it will look too anime. If there's one thing GW's been getting right more than wrong these days, it's model design. I wouldn't worry too much. Also, why would you think the new codex will screw the Tau over? They're already the worst army in the game now that Necrons got updated, and have a hard time fighting just about anyone. Even if Tau got a codex in line with the Tyranid codex, it would be equally if not more competitive than the outdated codex they have now.

Personally, I think the new codex will be a middle of the road dex like Necrons or non-MSU spam Dark Eldar. We'll get new toys to play with and I'm sure most of the kits will be versatile and well designed. I'm pretty optimistic because there's already enough Tau stuff to base new designs on, but there's so much room for expansion and improvement they could do just about anything. I'd love for Kelly to write it, but if Ward wrote it I'd be fine. I think Cruddace would be a decent pick given his IG codex, but so far he's hit and miss with his codices. If he stepped up his game I think he could do a decent job.

You make some very good points, but if the battle suits look like the forge world battle suits i wont be very happy. That's just opinion though. What makes the Tau the worst army though? I'm kinda new to the gaming aspect of 40k and haven't even played my first game yet.

They have a lot of units that work well in theory, but aren't so great on the tabletop. Many of their options are overcosted compared to other armies. They were kind of neutered by the current edition of the game, which is less about standing and shooting (as Fire Warriors are good at) and more about moving and transport vehicles. Tau transports are really, really pricey, and the 30" of range Fire Warriors get is kind of useless when they can't crack the transports that their targets are riding in. Hammerheads are great but once again, really expensive. Crisis and Broadside suits are basically the only good units in the codex right now.

But what about the low cost of infantry with str 5 ap5 guns with 4+ sv combined with railguns and marker lights?

The new Tau codex will be so over powered that I will probably refuse to play against them... That is, until the next over-powered codex comes, then I will refuse to play against them, too...

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:The new Tau codex will be so over powered that I will probably refuse to play against them... That is, until the next over-powered codex comes, then I will refuse to play against them, too...

A vicious cycle...What makes you say that they will be op though?

because every new codex is way over-powered, until the next one comes out...

[/sarcasm]

Because codex creep wills it.

so everything needs constant updating to keep everything in check, but if every codex is op then it will never be in check.

does anyone else notice how quick they are making these codices?

No, I don't notice. I was thinking 6th edition rumors is quick cause there's still a lot of cuddly armies that don't got no new 5th edition codex

You think it's just the rumors that are going around quickly?

Each codex isn't more overpowered than the last, that's just people being shortsighted and stupid. Every codex introduces new challenges to fight and new builds that we take a while to adapt to. While some players think "Oh, a new problem for my army to face" others think "I haven't fought this before therefore it is absolutely terrifying, overpowered, and kicked my dog after muttering some racial slurs." By that logic, the Necron codex would be more powerful by the Imperial Guard codex, and that's a laugh.

I never thought the rules worked this way. But it is really interesting to know some things. weather they are true or not I guess.