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Here is a very rumoury rumour based entirely on observation by myself.

The latest Horus Heresy black library video for Know no Fear:



At about 1:05 it plays an audio clip of someone stating that the imperium is finished and Horus is rising. The style of the recording (accent, quality, effect) is very similar to that done by Codex Pictures for the Ultramarines movie. Codex pictures and relic/thq are then thanked at the end of the clip (1:38). Previous Horus Heresy book videos have thanked THQ and Relic so they seem to have some part in the existing videos, but this is the first time Codex Pictures have been thanked.

It would also be a logical choice as Codex Pictures previously stated that the Ultramarines movie was marine vs marine to save on 3D modelling expenses, so this would allow them to make a much better movie with focus on scenery and animation now that their space marine models are largely completed (in terms of animation, etc) from the first movie. Perhaps GW have a bit of guilt from barely promoting ultramarines at all as well.

UPDATE:
pretty definitive argument against it being too likely from StraightSilver below:

Codex pictures are involved in a nasty legal dispute with Anchor Bay entertainment right now, and are considering liquidating the company, so at present there are definitely no plans for Codex Pictures to make another movie of any sort right now.

However that doesn't stop them liquidating that company and creating another one, after all Codex Pictures were set up to create Ultramarines, so there's no reason they couldn't call themselves Heresy Pictures or something, but certanly right now they aren't working on anything.

Could be cool, but there are three things they'd need to do.

1: Get a scriptwriter. Dan Abnett is a good author, but screenwriting is a different beast and he came unstuck a little.

2: Get a director. The scene where a horde of Black Legion troops are running up to our heroes loosing thousands of rounds of ammo whilst failing to hit anybody (even though the ultras are in the open), while the smurfs are in 'one shot, one kill' mode was more A-Team than Band of Brothers. Nice to know 10,000 years of target practice keeps you sharp

3. Get the animators to look at some of the footage from the 'Lord Inquisitor' movie. That's some nice rendering.

More likely Codex picture simply contributed to the short animation in some manner. My guess is they did the horrible part of the explosion on the planet, as that part is 3D (and it looks like ass, pretty much the same quality as the movie they did).

Also Calvin, animators have 0 to do with rendering . If you want inquisitor quality you need people that know 3d modelling and lighting.

What I know about computer animation wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp...

but I know what looks good on film, and Ultramarines was a tad lacking.

Sounds exciting. I hope it will not be a flop like the last one if it does come out.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Could be cool, but there are three things they'd need to do.

1: Get a scriptwriter. Dan Abnett is a good author, but screenwriting is a different beast and he came unstuck a little.

2: Get a director. The scene where a horde of Black Legion troops are running up to our heroes loosing thousands of rounds of ammo whilst failing to hit anybody (even though the ultras are in the open), while the smurfs are in 'one shot, one kill' mode was more A-Team than Band of Brothers. Nice to know 10,000 years of target practice keeps you sharp

3. Get the animators to look at some of the footage from the 'Lord Inquisitor' movie. That's some nice rendering.

4. Work out how to release a film.

I think thats just a trailer for the book. If they do bring out a movie, lets hope the CGi has improved SIGNIFICANTLY!

The thanks for Relic in that video is no doubt due to the music, which is from Space Marine, so it could be something as simple as that.

Either way, if Codex pictures are going to make another movie they had better add some friction and gravity to the world.

Please no. It would suck if codex pictures are in charge of a Horus Heresy film adaptation.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Either way, if Codex pictures are going to make another movie they had better add some friction and gravity to the world.

What, so that you can actually hear Space Marines clunking about, as opposed to the soft footwork heard (or rather not heard) in the film?

I didnt really miss the mass of a space marine when first watching the movie, but after playing the Space marine game (where they really nailed the feel of being a massive armoured giant), you really miss the noise a space marine would make by simply walking.

I was at the screening of Space Marine in Chicago, and one of the producers talked afterwards a bit about the possibility of future movies. They basically said 2 things for sure.


1) They wanted to make a second movie as soon as they had the money. It took about 5 years the rise the money for the first one, who knows how long for a second.

2) The movie would be "from the Imperium's point of view". They would only do a movie from a Xenos/Chaos point of view once they had several profitable movies under their belt.


Other than that there were no specifics in mind.

Hopefully they will have learned lessons from Ultramarine, I think they could do justice to some of the short story compilations.

I think a movie from a Tau perspective could be cool, in an Avatar/District 9 sort of way.

I think this is just a trailer for the book.

They used what they had access to. In this case a little film company and borrowed music from the space marine game.

If you remember the new Necron codex had a trailer too. I think they're just trying to push sales, with the campaign and the upcoming book.

They are probably betting that Ultramarines will be the most popular in sales

Yep, this is just the trailer for the forthcoming book, the creditation at the end is for the music.

Codex pictures, AFAIK, won't be making any more 40K movies, or possibly any more movies at all.....

Codex Pictures isn't big enough to do a story on the scale of the Horus Heresy, or really anything bigger than Ultramarines. The reason the scale of that movie is so small is because they're a tiny company and animating hundreds of models would take a real movie studio to do efficiently.

Ultramarines was "okay" but I really hope they would step it up compared to Ultramarines if they do end up making a HH movie. So much potential.

Last time i was in a GW they had an Audiobook playing with comparable production. I.e. Lines read by VO artists and diegetic sound.

So for this reason i am guessing it is an excerpt from the audiobook.

EDIT: Yes the lord inquisitor has amazing renders and SFX but the basic animation is pretty laughable. At least in Ultramarine the marines walk in a convincing manner (even if it is a convincing human as opposed to convincing quarter ton superhuman).

Codex pictures are involved in a nasty legal dispute with Anchor Bay entertainment right now, and are considering liquidating the company, so at present there are definitely no plans for Codex Pictures to make another movie of any sort right now.

However that doesn't stop them liquidating that company and creating another one, after all Codex Pictures were set up to create Ultramarines, so there's no reason they couldn't call themselves Heresy Pictures or something, but certanly right now they aren't working on anything.

This is just a trailer for the book. Most of the video was text and voice over. The most advanced thing was the explosions on the planet done with a primitive partical system. And the Space Marines "floating/fighting" in space were just a few layers floating in a single direction over a static background. Its very cheap and quick to spit out and will get alot of attention because they're actually spending time and money on advertising outside of their precious White Dwarf.


Aside from the hating I'll definitely be getting this book as I have all the other HH novels and really enjoy the story.

I thought that the Bionicle films by (the people involved with?) Codex Pictures were pretty damn good; I did, however, despise Ultramarines. This rumor isn't going to play out, but they'd have to seriously step up the quality.

It's because of the soundtrack and some of the sound effects. The FW videos have exactly the same tagline at the end. Something to do with the way the license works, GW can use sounds in their own productions or something.

I'd like to see it if the movie quality is good.

I have always thought that a full motion picture set in the 40K universe, made by one of the major movie companies, should have huge potential, similar to Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTR etc.

(it's probably merchandising "who gets what rights & what amount" negotiations that would be a major obstacle with GW involved though)

TBD wrote:I have always thought that a full motion picture set in the 40K universe, made by one of the major movie companies, should have huge potential, similar to Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTR etc.

Maybe...

...whoever was involved (script writers, director etc) would need to have their head well and truly screwed on e.g. Aliens/Terminator era James Cameron or Chris Nolan. 40K would need a very restrained approach and in my opinion needs to be framed from a human - i.e. not Astartes - perspective. I'm not saying Space Marines can't be in it, but we're basically talking about an army of Captain Americas here, so you need that human frame of reference.

Anyway, if it were given to the Michael Bays or Brett Ratners of this world, the end product would be

StraightSilver wrote:Codex pictures are involved in a nasty legal dispute with Anchor Bay entertainment right now, and are considering liquidating the company, so at present there are definitely no plans for Codex Pictures to make another movie of any sort right now.

However that doesn't stop them liquidating that company and creating another one, after all Codex Pictures were set up to create Ultramarines, so there's no reason they couldn't call themselves Heresy Pictures or something, but certanly right now they aren't working on anything.

What over, if you know the details? Must be something to do with Ultramarines, I thought that was the only reason they had been set up for.

There is absolutely NO reason to suspect that they are working on a HH film... this 'trailer' isn't animated at all, its merely 2d drawings that have been re-layered in imaging software so elements can be moved independently of one another. The voice acting is just that, voice acting, no doubt this is where the codex pictures credit comes from, and the blurry animated screen was probably done by thq/relic, hence that credit. Now, had you seen 3d animated action on screen, then I would say you might be on to something, otherwise I think you're reaching... really far.... for something that doesn't exist...

Flashman wrote:Anyway, if it were given to the Michael Bays or Brett Ratners of this world, the end product would be

How about Uwe Boll?
*runs for cover*

The audio clip is the only thing I can think of that might have come from Codex pictures, but it seems just as likely that that's from an audio version of the book that could be in the process of being recorded?

It's the music. Totally.

The video itself was done internally.

When Codex Pictures was originally set up the plan was to use a distribution company to handle distributing the DVDs etc for Ultramarines.

They signed a contract with Anchor Bay Entertainment, a distibution company to do this.

For reasons only Codex Pictures know they then decided that they would distribute the movie themselves, ignoring the fact that they had entered into a legally binding contract with Anchor Bay.

Once Anchor Bay found out that Codex had reneged on their contract they filed a legal action with them last year.

This is still ongoing but is being treated as a breach of contract case, which could end up being costly for Codex (although the papers filed say it is for a breach of copyright, not sure what that's about unless Anchor Bay own the distribution rights?).

Codex Pictures were also only set up to create Ultramarines, and it's quite common for a small production company to do this and then liquidate the company, only to release another movie under a different company.

However Codex have just released the soundtrack, DVD standard release and Blu Ray so they aren't done just yet, but there was talk of them liquidating in January this year, and I suspect the court case will run for a while as papers were only filed a few months ago.