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Celebrity chef and food activist Jamie Oliver is a man on a mission: to stop the use of what he calls "pink slime," beef scraps no one would choose to eat, reprocessed and repurposed for use in hamburger patties.
It is, he asserts, "not fit for human consumption."
"We're taking a product that would be sold in its cheaper form for dogs and," he says, "after this process, we can give it to humans."
The first salvo in his high-profile food fight was an April 2011 stomach-turning demonstration on his TV show, "Food Revolution," nine months ago.
He washed bits of beef in a solution of ammonia and water -- ammonium hydroxide -- to kill off bacteria, a technique approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
"This is a practice," Oliver says, "that's openly admitted to being in 70 percent of ground beef. That kind of puts it everywhere."
But last week, McDonald's announced it's no longer using the controversial beef. In a statement, the chain said the decision "was not related to any particular event."
Still, Oliver said he's "thrilled."
But, if he considers McDonalds a victory, he'd have to call Los Angeles a loss. City schools rejected his offer for a healthy menu makeover and decided to go it alone.
And student Kevin Albrecht says, "The healthier it gets, the more disgusting it is."
Some can barely describe what "it" is.
Fellow student Marina Sangit said one item is "called a barbecue sandwich, but it looks like an imitation Sloppy Joe."
So, the district keeps trying, testing healthy, "tastier" foods on kids and parents.
But, observes student Cameron Michaels, "Any food (adults say) is good for me, I think I'm not going to like it."
Yet - one student says he likes "the pesoli, the hummus and the water."
Parent Amu Narin agreed, noting, "He's shoveling it in. And I've never seen him eat salad at home."
Like Jamie Oliver, the schools want healthy foods, but they're learning kids will only eat what's good for them, if it tastes good.
Nobody cares about ing Jamie ing Oliver! He's a ing stuck up little and can ing shove his ing 'health food' up his ing hole.
Give me back my turkey twizzlers you ing er!
Anywho, it has come to my attention that I found this pink gak tasty when it was cooked in grease and spit and whatever else goes into the cooking process at Maccy D's, so as far as i'm concerned, it's just an unnecessary price increase.
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Anywho, it has come to my attention that I found this pink gak tasty when it was cooked in grease and spit and whatever else goes into the cooking process at Maccy D's, so as far as i'm concerned, it's just an unnecessary price increase.
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$1 double cheeseburgers have staved off starvation for me more than once..... fething hell.....
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I agree. I mean you are not supposed to eat there every day and every meal but I can not tell you how many times I have been driving for 5+ hours and finally needed something to put something in my stomach. Health food and junk food, I see no reason to combine the two
2012/02/03 07:27:16
Subject: Re:McDonalds Stops Using Pink Goo In Food
Like Jamie Oliver, the schools want healthy foods, but they're learning kids will only eat what's good for them, if it tastes good.
THERE'S a penetrating glimpse into the obvious.
"We're taking a product that would be sold in its cheaper form for dogs and,"
And? If someone sold grade A steaks as dogfood, this wouldn't change my opinion of eating steaks one iota. Likewise, if I am starving, dogfood is better than air.
If it isn't going to hurt me with THEM BACTERIUMZ! or THEM TOXINZ! or THEM NON-EDIBLE MATERIALS! ....well...then it stays on my menu on some level.
I'd say this is a step in the right direction. I'd rather have McDonalds put decent meat in my stomach, and pay a few more cents, than eating what amounts to tendon, tripe, hearts kidneys etc, that have been minced. I'd like to know the source of my food, and I like to know it was killed well, like this
H.B.M.C. wrote:Healthier food at a fast food place.
Going to a fast food place for healthy food = missing the point.
Not healthier food, better quality food. I'm not saying Macca's should serve us a four course balanced dinner, This is simply using better quality meat in their burgers.
It's the 'mechanically recovered meat'. One person doing a programme on it found it fairly difficult to get access to those who make the machines; they are fairly secretive about their tradeshows and the 'process' involved. Though it's hardly a great secret in general, the animal remains are forced through a fine mesh as high pressure that reduces all but the hardest material, such as bone, to a paste. It's just those in the industry seem embarrassed by it so don't like people seeing or writing about it in public. Maybe there's a concern among meat producers that wider public understanding would put them off their food, putting all those in the industry at risk, those making machines and those ultimately using them.
It's barely meat, it's all the stuff that no one else would touch but simply happens to be edible. When mixed up with something actually resembling meat, enhanced with flavouring and colouring and deep fried, it tastes okay. When producers producers claim "contains no artificial colouring or flavouring" that means it still contains them, but they are from 'natural sources', or rather they just aren't chemically made in a lab. Even though it is often the case that lab made enhancements are chemically the same as the natural ones, the difference is actually quite slight in the overall process.
Of course McDonalds tastes good, they'd go bust if it didn't. But it's still crap, and surprisingly expensive IMO. The few times I've gone there with a friend wanting to eat, I thought it was rather costly for a fairly unsatisfying amount of food.
Avatar 720 wrote:Nobody cares about ing Jamie ing Oliver! He's a ing stuck up little and can ing shove his ing 'health food' up his ing hole.
Give me back my turkey twizzlers you ing er!
Anywho, it has come to my attention that I found this pink gak tasty when it was cooked in grease and spit and whatever else goes into the cooking process at Maccy D's, so as far as i'm concerned, it's just an unnecessary price increase.
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The ers ing healthy ing ideas took this from me at a young age and replaced it with.....fruit salad it was quickly changed to something else when the school nearly rioted.
still we never got it back.
and i agree-fast food=junk food NOT healthy food. if i went into maccys or even subway and it was all uba healthy ide cry.
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Mechanically recovered meat is still actual protein and no worse for you than "head cheese" and other such delicacies.
The bad bit is possibly the fillers and binders they use to reconstitute it into something that doesn't resemble taramasalata.
That said, smoked meats are supposedly carcinogenic so where does it leave traditional salami and the like?
Jamie Oliver's issue is about feeding the MRM stuff to children for most of their meals. It usually appears with a lot of other unhealthy stuff and not much healthy stuff.
Howard A Treesong wrote:It's just those in the industry seem embarrassed by it so don't like people seeing or writing about it in public.
There's a lot of this, not just on the meat processing side.
Publishing a documentary on how chickens are handled, cows are slaughtered, or even how turkeys live on a day-to-day basis (and in farms it's much cleaner than in the wild) would turn a lot of people off of those foods. Because there's a lot of really gross gak that goes into your food. Literally, gak. Go to a state fair and look at the pigs. Gak everywhere. And the pigs love it.
I think the production of natural gelatin is much, much more disgusting than anything they do in meat rendering or reprocessing plants. And leather is just creepy.
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2012/02/03 13:00:56
Subject: Re:McDonalds Stops Using Pink Goo In Food
KingCracker wrote:TacoBell is still rocking gak in their food
Taco Bell, now with more cat.
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n0t_u wrote:Cat? That's a bit too high grade, need to cut back with the economy and all.
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Johnny-Crass wrote:I agree. I mean you are not supposed to eat there
I agree with this, if you cut the statement off right here.
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2012/02/03 14:17:41
Subject: Re:McDonalds Stops Using Pink Goo In Food
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:Heart dissection was a lot of fun in Biology class, as I recall. I certainly enjoyed seeing how it all worked.
Apparently heart is pretty tasty, too.
It needs to be cooked at a low temperature for a long time to soften it up, as the heart is a very strong muscle.
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