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I am looking to convert/create a female woc army but am struggling to find models. My problem is I'm nit great at converting but I want to be able to go to a tournament if I so choose.

So any ideas guys and gals?

Deamonettes without the claw hands, or DE without guns.

Also put capes on the backs of the DE to hide the vent things.

They are quite cool but I was thinking more heavy armour like the sisters of battle

Well, if you want to go for "they're girls in armor and aren't stupid," just use girl heads on male bodies. Maybe add just a liiiitle green stuff to the hips. Boob armor is a really bad idea for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that it not only makes a weak point in the armor that a weapon can easily pierce, it actually leads the weapon to ricochet towards that weak point - total fail. In fact, falling on your face in boob armor can kill you, if the armor breaks violently enough the jagged pieces could be driven through your sternum.

tl;dr, use Warriors of Chaos bodies and put girl heads on them.

I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

rockerbikie wrote:I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

This and the fact that the female Norse in WHFB rearly leaves home. Unless you use a fan made army book.

rockerbikie wrote:I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

Trondheim wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

This and the fact that the female Norse in WHFB rearly leaves home. Unless you use a fan made army book.

(yes i am aware i have quoted someone twice)

why exactly cant you see a WoC army unless it is Slaanesh? There are 3 other gods as well as undivided out there as well.....unless you mean you cant see a female WoC army unless it is Slaanesh...? in which case you have fallen in to the same trap everyone else does with Slaanesh, its not all about sex! Slaanesh is about sensory excess in all things, including art, dance, music, food, drugs etc. and taking pleasure from this.

Also, as examples of the other Gods, have you ever seen a woman plan her revenge on a hated ex? bam, there Tzeentch for you...ever seen her take that revenge? bam, theres Khorne...( )

Seriously, Nurgle is quite easily covered by the fact that everyone gets sick, and hence, everyone has the same fear of death and decay that gives Nurgle his power.
Why are women suddenly exempt from plotting and scheming and manipulating? Tzeentch is just as likely to have female followers as male (well, after a while they are all more unisex, but you get the idea...)
and in the same vein, women are just as likely to revel in the slaughter and go into a killing rage and hence venerate Khorne.

Revenent Reiko wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

Trondheim wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:I can't see a Warrior of Chaos Army unless it is Slannesh.

This and the fact that the female Norse in WHFB rearly leaves home. Unless you use a fan made army book.

(yes i am aware i have quoted someone twice)

why exactly cant you see a WoC army unless it is Slaanesh? There are 3 other gods as well as undivided out there as well.....unless you mean you cant see a female WoC army unless it is Slaanesh...? in which case you have fallen in to the same trap everyone else does with Slaanesh, its not all about sex! Slaanesh is about sensory excess in all things, including art, dance, music, food, drugs etc. and taking pleasure from this.

Also, as examples of the other Gods, have you ever seen a woman plan her revenge on a hated ex? bam, there Tzeentch for you...ever seen her take that revenge? bam, theres Khorne...( )

Seriously, Nurgle is quite easily covered by the fact that everyone gets sick, and hence, everyone has the same fear of death and decay that gives Nurgle his power.
Why are women suddenly exempt from plotting and scheming and manipulating? Tzeentch is just as likely to have female followers as male (well, after a while they are all more unisex, but you get the idea...)
and in the same vein, women are just as likely to revel in the slaughter and go into a killing rage and hence venerate Khorne.

Females and Males do not have the same opportunities in the Old World unless I start seeing a Khrone Barmaid army. Women do not have the same power as men usually in this setting meaning that it would be very rare to see a full female WOC army. Maybe seeing one or two warriors but not a whole army.

rockerbikie wrote:Females and Males do not have the same opportunities in the Old World unless I start seeing a Khrone Barmaid army. Women do not have the same power as men usually in this setting meaning that it would be very rare to see a full female WOC army. Maybe seeing one or two warriors but not a whole army.

Why Khorne barmaids for a start?

but yes, equality for women hasnt exactly hit the scene in WHFB as of yet. However, this would actually increase the likelihood of Tzeentch-ian female cultists, as they would have more reason to want to improve their station.

Nurgle epitomises the great equaliser (Death) in the fact that he wouldnt care one way or the other what gender you were so long as you worshipped him and spread his plagues.

And the same goes for Khorne, it doesnt matter who you are, or how you do it, you spill blood in his name, hes happy...

so, again, why wouldnt there be an all-female WoC army?

Revenent Reiko wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Females and Males do not have the same opportunities in the Old World unless I start seeing a Khrone Barmaid army. Women do not have the same power as men usually in this setting meaning that it would be very rare to see a full female WOC army. Maybe seeing one or two warriors but not a whole army.

Why Khorne barmaids for a start?

but yes, equality for women hasnt exactly hit the scene in WHFB as of yet. However, this would actually increase the likelihood of Tzeentch-ian female cultists, as they would have more reason to want to improve their station.

Nurgle epitomises the great equaliser (Death) in the fact that he wouldnt care one way or the other what gender you were so long as you worshipped him and spread his plagues.

And the same goes for Khorne, it doesnt matter who you are, or how you do it, you spill blood in his name, hes happy...

so, again, why wouldnt there be an all-female WoC army?

Due to equality problems, the Gods would be less likely to even notice females as potentinal Champions and Warriors and instead turn to the native Male population. It would be rare for them to get any position of power past Cultists because the Male WoC would not allow it. Also, the Females Warriors would not be as tough as the males counterparts for example. There are only rare coincendences where it would occur it to happen, it would be basically all the Females WoC gather to the once place at the same, it is unrealistic and it would not happen Narrative wise.

Exactly and my thought is an undevided female daemon prince leading with a hero and group of chaos warriors who follow in those plans.

Khorne women who excell at combat, prob recruited from disillusioned Norse women that feel they can fight as good as men.

Tzeentch a group of what used to be middle to upper class woman joined a cult out of boredom but learned to fight now they are searching endlessly for knowledge.

Slannesh was a group of woman who gave men everything in excess in a brothel but were secretly dedicated to slannesh they offered everything to their patrons until one night they murdered all the important men in the city in a night of blood.

Nurgle as someone said its not just men obsessed with not dying or becoming ill

Griffin55k wrote:Exactly and my thought is an undevided female daemon prince leading with a hero and group of chaos warriors who follow in those plans.

Khorne women who excell at combat, prob recruited from disillusioned Norse women that feel they can fight as good as men.

Tzeentch a group of what used to be middle to upper class woman joined a cult out of boredom but learned to fight now they are searching endlessly for knowledge.

Slannesh was a group of woman who gave men everything in excess in a brothel but were secretly dedicated to slannesh they offered everything to their patrons until one night they murdered all the important men in the city in a night of blood.

Nurgle as someone said its not just men obsessed with not dying or becoming ill

I think use the Female as Maruaders, not Warriors. I think the Hero would be a Male Sorcereer who act as a diplomat to other war bands. I can only think of 2 females WoC. One from Gotrex and Felix, one from the rulebook. Also, Warshrine would be a nice idea.

rockerbikie wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Females and Males do not have the same opportunities in the Old World unless I start seeing a Khrone Barmaid army. Women do not have the same power as men usually in this setting meaning that it would be very rare to see a full female WOC army. Maybe seeing one or two warriors but not a whole army.

Why Khorne barmaids for a start?

but yes, equality for women hasnt exactly hit the scene in WHFB as of yet. However, this would actually increase the likelihood of Tzeentch-ian female cultists, as they would have more reason to want to improve their station.

Nurgle epitomises the great equaliser (Death) in the fact that he wouldnt care one way or the other what gender you were so long as you worshipped him and spread his plagues.

And the same goes for Khorne, it doesnt matter who you are, or how you do it, you spill blood in his name, hes happy...

so, again, why wouldnt there be an all-female WoC army?

Due to equality problems, the Gods would be less likely to even notice females as potentinal Champions and Warriors and instead turn to the native Male population. It would be rare for them to get any position of power past Cultists because the Male WoC would not allow it. Also, the Females Warriors would not be as tough as the males counterparts for example. There are only rare coincendences where it would occur it to happen, it would be basically all the Females WoC gather to the once place at the same, it is unrealistic and it would not happen Narrative wise.

What equality problems?

So the women cant vote in WHFB, so what....?

If you think about it, theres would be at least as high a chance of there being female cultists as there are male (for the reasons i have listed above). And actually, there would be a higher proportion of women in some of the areas where classic WoC warbands would be found (it has been proved that more female babies are born in times of crisis/ harsh environments as they propogate the species - ie one man and 10 women can create more babies than one woman and ten men), again leading to the chances increasing of a cultist being female.

'the Male WoC wont allow it'....really? i think you will find that their standing with one another is FAR more likely to be based on the favour of their patron God(s) than it is whether another member of the warband 'allows' them to have power or not...yes, power struggles will happen, but women arent the same as men, and wouldnt necessarily compete in the same way would they?

in regards to toughness, thats what the Gifts are for. If a cultist has proven herself (or himself, as we know happens) then they may well be blessed by their God with increased toughness (or speed/dexterity, which would make much more sense).

your last point is just bunk. what if a female WoC ascends to Daemonhood and leads her warband across the Wastes...you know, like the men do....and other Warriors are recruited to her cause...you know, like exactly what happens....and there is a high proportion of women WoC drawn to her due to the fact that she was female and hence shows them what they could achieve if they gain enough favour? how is that unrealistic? maybe not common, no, but easily possible.

Revenent Reiko wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Females and Males do not have the same opportunities in the Old World unless I start seeing a Khrone Barmaid army. Women do not have the same power as men usually in this setting meaning that it would be very rare to see a full female WOC army. Maybe seeing one or two warriors but not a whole army.

Why Khorne barmaids for a start?

but yes, equality for women hasnt exactly hit the scene in WHFB as of yet. However, this would actually increase the likelihood of Tzeentch-ian female cultists, as they would have more reason to want to improve their station.

Nurgle epitomises the great equaliser (Death) in the fact that he wouldnt care one way or the other what gender you were so long as you worshipped him and spread his plagues.

And the same goes for Khorne, it doesnt matter who you are, or how you do it, you spill blood in his name, hes happy...

so, again, why wouldnt there be an all-female WoC army?

Due to equality problems, the Gods would be less likely to even notice females as potentinal Champions and Warriors and instead turn to the native Male population. It would be rare for them to get any position of power past Cultists because the Male WoC would not allow it. Also, the Females Warriors would not be as tough as the males counterparts for example. There are only rare coincendences where it would occur it to happen, it would be basically all the Females WoC gather to the once place at the same, it is unrealistic and it would not happen Narrative wise.

What equality problems?

So the women cant vote in WHFB, so what....?

If you think about it, theres would be at least as high a chance of there being female cultists as there are male (for the reasons i have listed above). And actually, there would be a higher proportion of women in some of the areas where classic WoC warbands would be found (it has been proved that more female babies are born in times of crisis/ harsh environments as they propogate the species - ie one man and 10 women can create more babies than one woman and ten men), again leading to the chances increasing of a cultist being female.

'the Male WoC wont allow it'....really? i think you will find that their standing with one another is FAR more likely to be based on the favour of their patron God(s) than it is whether another member of the warband 'allows' them to have power or not...yes, power struggles will happen, but women arent the same as men, and wouldnt necessarily compete in the same way would they?

in regards to toughness, thats what the Gifts are for. If a cultist has proven herself (or himself, as we know happens) then they may well be blessed by their God with increased toughness (or speed/dexterity, which would make much more sense).

your last point is just bunk. what if a female WoC ascends to Daemonhood and leads her warband across the Wastes...you know, like the men do....and other Warriors are recruited to her cause...you know, like exactly what happens....and there is a high proportion of women WoC drawn to her due to the fact that she was female and hence shows them what they could achieve if they gain enough favour? how is that unrealistic? maybe not common, no, but easily possible.

Wouldn't males flock in as well?

Absolutely, but im saying there would be plenty of female WoC there for a seperate wardband for (say) a raiding party that the leading female Deamon Prince(ess? lol) would hand pick to accompany her...you know, like the sort of fluff you could potentially write for your army in a particular battle/ set of battles...i have yet to see any army in WHFB that would really show the true scale of an effective army. they are all tiny, and as suuch, i normally view my battles as smaller sections of a larger picture...

It would not happen for the simpel reason that any of the male tribesmen surrong them, would simply butcher them. Or have them so thorogly broken that they would be notting more than a emty shell of a woman. And the singel female to ever gain the attention of a Chaos god was Vallakia who died before she could achive her goals.

Trondheim wrote:It would not happen for the simpel reason that any of the male tribesmen surrong them, would simply butcher them. Or have them so thorogly broken that they would be notting more than a emty shell of a woman. And the singel female to ever gain the attention of a Chaos god was Vallakia who died before she could achive her goals.

you totally ninja'd me mate. but Valkia was killed in the most dangerous place in the world and remade.

ElectricPaladin wrote:Well, if you want to go for "they're girls in armor and aren't stupid," just use girl heads on male bodies. Maybe add just a liiiitle green stuff to the hips. Boob armor is a really bad idea for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that it not only makes a weak point in the armor that a weapon can easily pierce, it actually leads the weapon to ricochet towards that weak point - total fail. In fact, falling on your face in boob armor can kill you, if the armor breaks violently enough the jagged pieces could be driven through your sternum.

the picture of Valkia in the Army Book shows she has an extra piece of metal from her colar that covers the middle of the boob plate.

and as for you 2 guys having the debate. I don't think females can be warriors like males on a grand scale but there's no doubt that females can become strong. I can imagine that a female maruader can be just as deadly and tough as any other marauder. I mean, what'll down a female that wouldn't down a male. you see, it's not like were're getting every female from a tribe and making them all marauders, we can just get all the females who are as good as your typical maruder through whatever means of death they excell in.

so basically the ones that don't qualify, don't take part, simple.

@ Lotet : Did I? That she was but my point still stands

you totally did, I text searched for Valkia and found nothing, when I finished reading the topic I refreshed the page and saw the new post you had made.

also

Trondheim wrote:And the singel female to ever gain the attention of a Chaos god was Valkia who died before she could achive her goals.

also, that's the only female YOU know of. in Tome of Corruption it says

Tomb of Corruption wrote:Warriors of Chaos are those men and women who leave their homelands to throw in their lot with the hordes that muster in the Chaos Wastes.

in Felix & Gotrex they battle a woman who has gained control of a hoarde of Beastmen, who are also a force of Chaos. and anoher female champion in Wine of Dreams.

So your saying that women are inferior to men with regards combat?

I disagree men are stronger but women are more agile a combat between them could very much be equal especially if they are both well trained.

To me here it seems that people are quite narrow minded with regards the abilities of the sexes. And to the person who said the men would butcher a woman not true since from what I gather if someone has a patron in the pantheon of the chaos gods then.warriors would flock to fight under his or her banner

the main problem is gathering a hoarde of females, I'm not closed minded that females can't do what men can do. I just don't think that as many women would try.

regardless of any physical advantages between genders, more men decide to go to war than females.

Use warrior bodies and female heads.

If you actually make armor for women it doesn't look any different from male armor, unless you end up with little petite girls with DDs(utterly rediclous)


I am sure there is a 3rd party supplier that has female fantesy heads you could use. Sparingly mind you, not everyone is going to be stupid enough to not wear helmets.

As for fluff, any of the gods would have motivation to use Females.


Khorne cares not from where the blood flows(O'thats bad )

Tzeentch, lets change things up a little.

Nurgle loves everyone.

Slannesh, if this isn't obvious, you don't belong here.

O GT.......*shakes head*

This:

Grey Templar wrote:Khorne cares not from where the blood flows(O'thats bad )

is TERRIBLE!!

Well I can't see anyone having any issue at a tournament for starters. Might get some fluff bunnies wailing in the aisles, but even then I think they are not as right as they would have you think. Most would probably think its a nice go, as long as its not all underwear models of course.

Model wise, its going to take some work. There are no easy short cuts on this kind of army if you want it to look good.
A bit of greenstuff work on a selected number of feminine heads, wood elf, Dark Eldar etc would be the best to start. Use extra green stuff hair to cover the pointed ears, and then either mould raised chest guard armour, or leave flat depending on how you want to go. Will need the chest armour mod for those you keep Chaos helms on mind.

I honestly can't think of a compatible range of female figs that are in full armour in GW scale. Maybe some old rackham ones if you can track them down, but then they would cause you issues going to an offiical GW tournie anyways.


As to fluff arguments.

If you say a female becomes a warrior, is blessed by one of the four gods and goes around slaughtering her naysayers until they are either dead, have shut the hell up, legged it or joined her warband, I don't see how anyone can sit there and suggest you are wrong.

There is no fluff anywhere saying a woman can't be Chaos Warriors, as much as some folks wish it to be so. It just doesn't exist. Current model range isn't a good enough answer either, as the range is seriously lacking in several areas, and it seems few current GW sculpters have the ability to do good female models even when called for.

If you make the chief hero a caster it nullifys pretty much all arguments, as her 'weaknesses' (according to some posts in the thread) are totally nullified by her ability to melt faces.

Regardless if anyone wants to argue with you at a tournie why a full female Chaos army isn't possible, just smile, nod with a fixed smile and back away slowly.

As a couple of people have mentioned in Trollslayer, there is a Chaos Warrior called Justine. She was an imperial peasant who was wronged by a local noble, her searing hate for the man attracted the attention of Khorne, she then butchered her way through the wastes until she had attained the loyalty of a small band of Chaos Knights, a horde of beastmen and a hellcannon. Also n Sigvald the tribeswomen were pretty brutal.

Remember "Khorne cares not form whence the blood flows, only that it flows"


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Oh and Lhunara In the Malus Darkblade series becomes a powerful Chaos Knight. She nearly brought down Naggoroth with a massive horde of Norsemen. She was again dedicated to Khorne, due to her intense hatred of Malus.

whoa whoa whoa...he killed her earlier on didn't he???


Entire series ruined


And I think Female WoC would look awesome

I'm gonna go into the gw store next week grab a model or two from the sisters of battle and see what I can do. I'm thinking that if I remove/replace a lot of the futuristic stuff and do a decent paint job it should end up looking pretty cool

I don't think it will work very well. Not to mention be expensive.

Their bolters are molded into the actual model. You can't just clip them off.

KorPhaeron77 wrote:As a couple of people have mentioned in Trollslayer, there is a Chaos Warrior called Justine. She was an imperial peasant who was wronged by a local noble, her searing hate for the man attracted the attention of Khorne, she then butchered her way through the wastes until she had attained the loyalty of a small band of Chaos Knights, a horde of beastmen and a hellcannon. Also n Sigvald the tribeswomen were pretty brutal.

Remember "Khorne cares not form whence the blood flows, only that it flows"


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Oh and Lhunara In the Malus Darkblade series becomes a powerful Chaos Knight. She nearly brought down Naggoroth with a massive horde of Norsemen. She was again dedicated to Khorne, due to her intense hatred of Malus.

That is not mentioned in the WoC armybook. And yes I di know these characther excist in the mentioned book,s but now ay I woul play against a amry like that.

The 'current' WoC book is not the be all and end all of Warhammer Chaos related fluff.

Also I don't think anyones williness to play him is really a factor in a tournie as long as he hasn't gone done the pr0n route, as a player you'd have two options, play or forfit, not liking his take on the fluff isn't good enough.