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2012/05/30 19:06:52
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
This year a number of employees former and current at Fox news have exposed the corruption and lack of integrity at the supposed "news" channel on top of revelations that Murdoch "owned" (i.e., corrupted) a good chunk of the British government. Here's some of the latest as to what's going on in the USA.
Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Fox News' "Fox & Friends" on Wednesday May 30, 2012 aired a scathing review of the first three years of President Barack Obama's term in office, countering his "hope" and "change" motto with a series of "then and now" facts about the national debt, jobless rate, gas prices and more.
It is not a mystery to anyone on the "Ed Show" that Fox News is a political operation pretending to be a News Channel. In fact, we're pretty sure most of the country is aware of that fact. There are, however, a few well-meaning intelligent people in the media who have defended Fox from the assertion that it's a political operation first. The Baltimore Sun's TV critic Dave Zurawik is one of those people. After Fox News aired their 4-minute attack ad aimed at the President this morning (above), Zurawik changed his mind.
But as the guy who challenged the Obama administration two years when it tried to deny Fox News access to interviews and other opportunities offered to the media on the grounds that Fox was not a legitimate news operation, I have to tell you even I am shocked by how blatantly Fox is throwing off any pretense of being a journalistic entity with videos like this. Don't be fooled by Bret Baier's Boy Scout smile or all the talk about how some shows are news and some are opinion on the channel. Any news organization that puts up this kind of video is rotten to the core.
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2012/05/30 19:33:14
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Yet more proof Fox is the spawn of Satan. Don't we have enough evidence already that they need to be shut down, rounded up, and moved out? WIll no one think of the children?!?!?!?!
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2012/05/30 21:24:01
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Frazzled wrote:Yet more proof Fox is the spawn of Satan. Don't we have enough evidence already that they need to be shut down, rounded up, and moved out? WIll no one think of the children?!?!?!?!
Don't forget Fox's slightly slowed kid brother, MSNBC. I say burn em both to the ground and see what new idiocy rises from the ashes like a phoenix. We might even get lucky with some strange two-headed beast where both heads spew hatred into the other. It'd be like a reverse ouroboros.
2012/05/30 22:56:51
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
They have long since crossed the line from news to tabloids. Although I'm probably giving Tabloids a bad name.
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2012/05/30 23:07:05
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Blacksails wrote:Wait, there are people who still watch Fox?
And they think its news to boot?
Yes, and yes.
In fact, FOX is one of the most popular news organizations in the country.
A scary thought indeed.
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2012/05/30 23:19:04
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
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2012/05/30 23:24:03
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Yes, there's definitely some brit crapola that's as bad as FOX.
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2012/05/30 23:25:18
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Joey wrote:Fox is a spectacle. It wouldn't be allowed in the UK by virtue of being fething mental.
have you actually taken a look around your news scene lately?
Yeah.
Anyway I wasn't trying to sound anti-American, many of them are as amazed as I am. I used to watch The Daily Show regularly and Fox came up...a lot.
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2012/05/30 23:31:14
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Joey wrote:Fox is a spectacle. It wouldn't be allowed in the UK by virtue of being fething mental.
have you actually taken a look around your news scene lately?
Yeah.
Anyway I wasn't trying to sound anti-American, many of them are as amazed as I am. I used to watch The Daily Show regularly and Fox came up...a lot.
As long as Fox is around Mr. Stewart will not run out of material.
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2012/05/30 23:37:19
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Joey wrote:Fox is a spectacle. It wouldn't be allowed in the UK by virtue of being fething mental.
have you actually taken a look around your news scene lately?
Yeah.
Anyway I wasn't trying to sound anti-American, many of them are as amazed as I am. I used to watch The Daily Show regularly and Fox came up...a lot.
I think that you are as aware as anyone else that I was not making reference to the BBC. Referring to the BBC as Fox's British counterpart is out and out trolling.
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2012/05/31 03:21:18
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Frazzled wrote:Yet more proof Fox is the spawn of Satan. Don't we have enough evidence already that they need to be shut down, rounded up, and moved out? WIll no one think of the children?!?!?!?!
Yeah, it's a totally measured and reasonable conclusion to draw that any suggestion that a media outfit is biased is a call to censor them. Totally honest debate there, fraz.
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Blacksails wrote:Wait, there are people who still watch Fox?
And they think its news to boot?
You learn something new every day...
Just like there are people who use check cashing agencies and pawn shops.
And there might even be something of a correlation between those two groups.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/31 03:33:19
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
And the sleaze from Fox Nuisance just never ceases. They're actually producing negative campaign ad videos of their own, directly involving themselves once again in pushing their Republican agenda.
We all know Fox News is the official mouthpiece of the Republican Party - but this time - they've really outdone themselves. What's that latest propaganda coming out of the network - and when will the American people wise up to GOP TV's real agenda?
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2012/05/31 18:52:49
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
LOLZ, Fox is literally producing anti Obama ads. Yeah, they really need a little disclaimer that says, "WARNING: FOX NEWS IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE" or something like that.
2012/05/31 18:56:57
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
More than one study has shown that people who watch Fox Nuisance are less informed of any actual factual information than people who do not watch any news at all. Which is no surprise since they deliberately avoid reporting anything that doesn't fit their agenda and willfully lie as they see fit.
A new study is showing that viewers who watch only Fox News are the least informed people in the country. In fact, the study is showing that those who watch Fox News are more uninformed than those who don’t watch any news at all.
Researchers at Fairleigh Dickinson University had originally done a study in 2011 that found the exact same statistics. They recently updated the study to find out if they would get the same results nationally that they got in the first study which was only conducted in New Jersey, where the University is located.
The poll interviewed participants about their knowledge of international news (Iran, Egypt, Syria and Greece were included) and news that is strictly for domestic consumption (Republican primaries, Congress, unemployment and the Keystone XL pipeline). The pollsters found that people were usually able to answer 1.8 out of 4 questions on foreign news, and 1.6 of 5 questions on domestic news, and that people who don’t watch any news were able to get 1.22 of the questions on domestic policy right.
Then the study found out that those who watched only Fox News fared much worse than the average.
The study found,
“The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only The Daily Show with Jon Stewart could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.”
MSNBC viewers also did worse than those who watch no news at all but only in the international news section of the study.
Among those who did the best in the study are people who only listened to NPR or watched Sunday morning talk shows or “The Daily Show”
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2012/06/01 04:46:16
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
It really is quite a remarkable thing. Murdoch and his new agencies in the UK are shown to directly involve themselves with politicians, in order to score political and personal advantage for Mr Murdoch. And it still seems to be beyond some people's grasp that Murdoch might use an openly partisan news channel in the US for exactly the same purpose.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/06/01 11:14:40
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Melissia wrote:Yes, there's definitely some brit crapola that's as bad as FOX.
There really isn't.
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2012/06/01 11:45:43
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
I love how Fox pisses you lefties off no end. It warms my cold black heart. Its probably how I feel when viewing MSNBC, the New York Times, Pacifica Radio, NBC/ABC news, or the Washington Post. Strangely I still read the Washington Post and NY Times and don't want them banned, with their editors tarred and feathered. Guess you can't take a contrasting opinion...
In other news, recent action photo of Rodney performing his patented flank attack on an animal that wandered onto the back 40.
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2012/06/01 14:42:49
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
See the thing is this: all our " news" is really just a business. Sure, individual reporters may care about the integrity of journalism. But as far as the companies go the newscast is just the delivery vehicle to which the advertising gets attached. MSNBCNNFOX don't make money by reporting the news, they make money by selling ads, and in order to sell adds they need solid ratings. FOX realized long ago that the market was under-saturated with news that catered to people with conservative viewpoints, so they took that niche and filled it in order to profit from it.
Does Fox exist to dumb down America or does Fox exist because people want to watch a program that reinforces what they already think is true? Many people watch MSNBC or FOX because they want to know that what they believe is right. The 'news' is simply meeting a demand. They are not here to spread the truth, they are here to make money.
2012/06/01 15:21:37
Subject: Re:Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Yeah... over here in my liberty deprived and oppressive regime of a country we actually have a regulatory entity that kind of prevents news outlets like news papers and televisions from passing on blatantly false news and / or propaganda pieces.
If any one of our news stations tried something even remotely like what FOX news does, they would loose their license.
2012/06/01 15:44:43
Subject: Former Fox Defending Media Critic: Fox News is "rotten to the core"
Translation: if groups with power or influence don't like it, its right out.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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