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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:21:28
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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So today i was in the GW store, looking at the events and having a browse as i do, and as ever the store manager did the hard sell, which im fine with normaly, and the hard sell for a copy of WD ready for 6ed. Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images". Now if memory serves in some of the countries W**k isnt a swear, but here it is. So i made my excuse to go and let it slide, was shocked that he swore in front of a customer. So should i go above his head. pr would it be a store managers word against mine? seem to rememebr a similar case someone asked about on here with a homophobic slant to the language
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:25:01
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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The Hammer of Witches
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Did you get his name?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:27:21
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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htj wrote:Did you get his name?
Yes, hes been there forever and outlasted the old group of staff for the new guys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:27:54
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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[DCM]
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Did it actually offend you, or were you just surprised that he said it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:27:59
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Is theword even a swear in the UK? As far as I knew, it was just a word for masturbation.
It is akin to saying 'bloody jerkoffseer'. Certainly not something to say in front of a customer, but still...
edit: Wow, that word is autofiltered by dakka. Neato.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:32:31
Subject: Re:Should i go above the staff members head?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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lol i filtered it, didnt want to risk admin attack
yeah its a uk swear, if i remember was some controversy with rooney saying it live.
bit of both tbh, a glorified store assistant shouldnt swear to a customer anyway, wether at or near.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:33:17
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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doc1234 wrote:So today i was in the GW store, looking at the events and having a browse as i do, and as ever the store manager did the hard sell, which im fine with normaly, and the hard sell for a copy of WD ready for 6ed. Was a bit warm and iritible, he was doing the "we know something you dont know" bit and il admit, it got to me a little and i said "look, we both know its 6ed, wasnt hard to find out on the forums, same as everything else gets leaked" and his response surprised me. he swore. not AT me, he said along the lines "bloody W**kseer, not worth the effort with low rez images". Now if memory serves in some of the countries W**k isnt a swear, but here it is. So i made my excuse to go and let it slide, was shocked that he swore in front of a customer. So should i go above his head. pr would it be a store managers word against mine? seem to rememebr a similar case someone asked about on here with a homophobic slant to the language
Seriously? Its a very minor swear to the extent that I'm suprised it hasn't started turning up on kids TV yet. Presumably you are a regular and as you were in a convesation with him which seems to have not been about the usual BUY NOW! line then I would guess that he is aquainted with you? If so its not as if he was swearing at a casual customer. If I was his manager I would do precisely nothing about it.
When I was a regular staff members said far worse things in my presence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:38:24
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.
As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:39:25
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Frazzled wrote: Whats your problem?
He's looking for an excuse to stick it to the man?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:40:53
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote:Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.
As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?
God forbid there be standards of decency.
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I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:42:19
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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ya, I wouldn't do anything unless it was directed at me (or family/friend for that matter..... maybe even some random passerby)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:42:21
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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OverwatchCNC wrote:God forbid there be standards of decency.
Oh come on. Pull the other one. I've said worse in the last 20 minutes. He didn't swear at the guy, he just was having a conversation with him and used some colorful language.
Chances are if the OP was hanging out with his friends, he would have said a lot worse and not thought twice about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:46:23
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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pretre wrote:OverwatchCNC wrote:God forbid there be standards of decency.
Oh come on. Pull the other one. I've said worse in the last 20 minutes. He didn't swear at the guy, he just was having a conversation with him and used some colorful language.
Chances are if the OP was hanging out with his friends, he would have said a lot worse and not thought twice about it.
That isn't the point. The portion in red is highly subjective, obviously you would be fine with it but the OP is not otherwise he wouldn't have posted. The guy is working at a job where there are, I presume, standards to uphold. I haven't said worse in the last 20 minutes, you know why? I am at work.
If the OP said worse and didn't think twice about it that wouldn't be a problem because he isn't at work talking to a customer.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:48:31
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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I am at work. I have still said worse in the last 20 minutes to people I don't work directly with but have a history with, just like this guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:48:55
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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suddenly...a certain opening scene from "old school" comes to mind
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:49:14
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Oh and of course it is subjective. If not clear, I am speaking from a position of opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:52:50
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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pretre wrote:I am at work. I have still said worse in the last 20 minutes to people I don't work directly with but have a history with, just like this guy.
If I was getting the hard sell still from an employee then my "history" with the guy can't be good enough that he can relax his speech around me. If you're my friend then by all means speak your mind and feel free to speak freely. But if you're still giving me the hard sell we aren't friends and you should behave as a sales rep should, and I will behave as a customer should because that is our relationship. From what I read in the OP the latter and not the former is the case here.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:54:36
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Okay, I can buy that a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:56:34
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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pretre wrote:Okay, I can buy that a bit.
That's all I was trying to say to begin with. Next time I will try to be more accurate with my original statement rather than a single line...
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:57:16
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.
And as was said, no were not "friendly" so to speak, i know the guys name, thats about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:00:03
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.
Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...
Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:02:04
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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pretre wrote:doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.
Okay, Overwatch had me with you, but now you're moving away again...
Calling it jerkoffseer is way less bad than making homophobic or racist statements or calling it mf'ing mentally disabled-seer. I agree that he doesn't know how you'll take it, but try not to attribute worse behavior than what occured to the situation.
Lol i know theres worse, ment as a generalitation, if he felt he could say one thing in front of a customer whos to say he wont say others around other customers >< heh sorry for not wording better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:03:26
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah, but don't go for slippery slope on this. He said what he said. We don't know if it was a slip or a calculated move. We must assess whether you should report him based on that statement, not what he could have said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:03:35
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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doc1234 wrote:Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.
And as was said, no were not "friendly" so to speak, i know the guys name, thats about it.
I'm not saying what the guy said was appropriate, because you're right, an employee generally shouldn't swear at a customer. From what you've written though, I kind of get the feeling that you're offended (if that's the right word) by it because you feel like you're supposed to be, not because what he actually said was offensive to you. If that's the case, I think that's a pretty silly reason to complain to a manager about it.
If on the other hand you were actually offended by what he said, then that's a different story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:05:14
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Go over his head because he called warseer w##k-seer?
Sounds like your being a total douche to me mate.
Seriously, if he swore at you personally I could understand it... well, I personally couldn't, but I could get it if he called you a name and insulted you, But is there really any need for this?
At the end of the day, you might lose a guy his job because your being ridiculously sensitive. He might struggle to pay his bills and feed his kids, but no no.. throw him on the fire because he used an unfunny euphemism.
It's thanks to people like you that everyone calls me "sir" and that in itself makes me uncomfortable. I wish more people spoke like human beings in stores.
I think your being ridiculous frankly, and its a sign of the times when everyone is so bloody namby pamby and desperate to be offended you want to get the guy fired for using an utterly inoffensive swear word.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:06:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:08:18
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Im 20, and still you would expect a certain standard in any shop. he wasnt to know i wouldnt take offense, putting it down to age is nothing. Its like if hed said something, anything homophobic in the assumption i was straight. Its context.
God.. the more I read the worse it gets.. 20?!
And homophobic!? He didn't say anything homophobic! Are you just a genuinely being malevolent or are you seriously telling me that 20 year old men get upset by ... well... the W word?
Surely you drop worse words occasionally.. the F bomb? Why on earth do you personally desire this guys blood?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:15:18
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I am in line with pretty much everyone else in this thread.
The GW dude should not have said that, but its not something that shoudl really bother you as it doesnt seem the comment was aimed to insult you and i didnt pick up anything racist/sexist or really anything from his remark.
heck, curse sometimes and dont intend anything by it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:19:01
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The bigger question.. If you said that word and YOU were fired because of it due to some random customer complaining.. how would you feel?
Is it worth risking someones job because of a minor swear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:19:16
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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OverwatchCNC wrote:Frazzled wrote:Not worth the time as he didn't swear at you.
As an aside you're in your teens right? You hear swearing every two minutes in teenland. Whats your problem?
God forbid there be standards of decency.
You'd literally die if you were near me for five minutes then.
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