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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:41:07
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...
No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.
Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:44:32
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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No. You shouldn't. If you REALLY were offended by it, say something to the person who offended you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:51:07
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Grimtuff wrote:pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...
No, I've seen it happen in multiple stores to multiple people. Mention those magic words of "Warseer", "Dakka", " BOLS", etc. and either you'll get a good chat with a staffer or it will be their berserk button. Thing is, you cannot tell.
Have you asked yourself why you're hanging out in multiple stores jabbering Warseer", "Dakka", " BOLS" at multiple people?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:53:16
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Frazzled wrote:pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...
No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.
Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.
I was picking on Grakmar! We're on the same page.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:57:16
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Frazzled wrote:Grimtuff wrote:pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...
No, I've seen it happen in multiple stores to multiple people. Mention those magic words of "Warseer", "Dakka", " BOLS", etc. and either you'll get a good chat with a staffer or it will be their berserk button. Thing is, you cannot tell.
Have you asked yourself why you're hanging out in multiple stores jabbering Warseer", "Dakka", " BOLS" at multiple people?
I'm not though. You've just jumped to that assumption. If you go into any GW store with much regularity and hear someone mention something they heard on "the internets" you'll either get a fair non-reaction from the staffer, this:  or have them enter RAEG!!!!1!!!!1! mode like what the OP experienced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:57:44
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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pretre wrote:Frazzled wrote:pretre wrote:So basically, you're trying to imprint your experience onto this guy's story. Yeah...
No, basically I'm trying to hold back what I really think, but "quit whining and put on your big girl panties" is the gyst of it.
Here's the truth of it. You're "hanging out" in a place of business. Do not expect that all mores of a place of business are going to hold when you're treating it like a club. Don't expect Mercedes politeness when you're hanging out at Bob's Bar and Grill, and get all butthurt when an employee slips up and acts normal.
I was picking on Grakmar! We're on the same page.
Woops sorry. Team Wienie is more of an area effect weapon than a JDAM.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:58:17
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
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I'd be more offended he didn't make a play on Dakka Dakka's name myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 18:58:56
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Grimtuff wrote:I'm not though. You've just jumped to that assumption. If you go into any GW store with much regularity and hear someone mention something they heard on "the internets" you'll either get a fair non-reaction from the staffer, this:  or have them enter RAEG!!!!1!!!!1! mode like what the OP experienced.
So in your experience, exactly what happens to the OP is what you have seen. How many times have you seen the discrimination, etc so on? Because there's no indication that that happened here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 19:02:28
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Yeah, i usually try to not talk about dakka much while im in a GW, at a FLGS i dont think they really care(or at least mine) but dont be surprised if a GW employee isnt super "happy happy joy joy" when you talk about a website that is well known for at least some "anti-GW'ism" and rumour spreading
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 19:11:47
Subject: Re:Should i go above the staff members head?
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Frazzled: I <3 your wiener.
That is all.
Oh, and OP needs to drop it. I would have just laughed and shrugged it off. They are probably trained to cuss at websites like Warseer and Dakka because they go against the GW system of knowing things they shouldn't know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 19:43:08
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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man up, grow a pair...
honestly sounds like OP is just trolling the board
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:00:53
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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OP, you made me side with Frazzled, that alone should make you feel like a terrible person. Not to mention the part where you want to go out of your way to ruin a man's career (for lack of a better word) for no reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:11:40
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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nah dont go over his head..he's being punished enough having to work there ..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:21:27
Subject: Re:Should i go above the staff members head?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Seriously it's not worth it. Especially for such a non-offensive word.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:27:44
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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CURNOW wrote:nah dont go over his head..he's being punished enough having to work there ..
Exactly.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:32:26
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Fixture of Dakka
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This is generally why working retail sucks. It allows people with no power to be able to control your life. Why do they do? Because being able to have a little bit of power over someone (when you normally don't) is exciting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:33:30
Subject: Re:Should i go above the staff members head?
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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Ehh... go over his head, he been there so long he knows the systems, the stock and how to sell. Becouse he would of outlasted other staff (like you pointed out) if he wasn't. So you need to get him replaced with some one new, who has no idea what there doing. It will be much better for everyone, maybe the new guy will even smell worse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:38:20
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I don't think they'd sack him for it. I'd imagine it would be a telling off at the most. However I think it might be a bit late for the OP to say something now. I also think it should be said to him first, something along the lines of 'that's not appropriate'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:48:14
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Take it up with him privately first- rationally, and with a honest, genuine concern that it was inappropriate and offended you.
I personally would recommend letting it go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:54:20
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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Tell him you'll keel heem next time he offends you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:57:32
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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eh already desided to let it go, at this stage have been more curious about peoples reactions on here. as said i like this store and its events, plus the other two staffers more than make up for the managres shortcomings
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 21:08:49
Subject: Re:Should i go above the staff members head?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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To the OP:
People who like to wield the "I am retail customer and i am god" power are such spankers.
Why would you report him, having a website denigrated, oh my god call the boys in blue. Maybe you are best mates with the pope and think that masturbation is the work of the devil?
my advice: go and release some of that tension with some self love.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 21:54:38
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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I'd just talk honestly to the manager- tell him you don't think it's appropriate to use that language, especially in an environment where there is often youngsters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 00:10:57
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Personally the only time I would even bother complaining about that is if I had my kid with me.
Otherwise if you werent offended and no one else was and kids werent around its no biggie
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:01:24
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Horrific Horror
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wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.
w**k? seriously thats it?
geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o
I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.
and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:17:01
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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If you were offended, you shouldn't have been offended.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:19:05
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Australia
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Rogues Gambit wrote:wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.
w**k? seriously thats it?
geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o
I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.
and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0
Yes, but the true crime is that Lara got her own reality show, although I think it's about to get the axe!
At the OP, seriously, I'm bored at work so I read this whole thread and what that guy said was absolutely nothing really. You went into a shop where his whole job is to sell you stuff, then you get annoyed that he tries hard to do so, then you bring up Warseer or whatever and throw that in his face? Sure, most GW staff don't know that much and the rest of us would love it if they did, (then we could argue with them even more right?) but at the end of the day, its his job to try to be the most knowledgable person about thier product and thier own company makes it hard for them to do so. I'd feel like an idiot too, when every informed customer knew more about my company than I did, but you want to stick it to him because he takes that a bit personally! That's ridiculous! You'd prefer someone who didn't even know about Warseer or Dakka maybe?
That being said, I agree with you about swearing in any capacity to a customer, its not cool, but at the same time, when you are familiar with a customer, part of that relationship is being a bit more open, although sometimes its a tricky balance.
Don't report him for that though, you don't know that when you walked out of the store, he wasn't thinking to himself, 'I probably shouldn't have said that!'
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Hive Fleet Jumanji
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:32:34
Subject: Should i go above the staff members head?
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Horrific Horror
Melbourne, Australia
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Jihadnik wrote:Rogues Gambit wrote:wow this is the funniest thread i have read in ages, each page has me laughing.
w**k? seriously thats it?
geez it must be just as bad as this:
(caution exceedingly foul verbal abuse and slander is used here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0lwGk4u9o
I wonder if any of you remember the beating we took for that one loooool
god forbid i put Bl**dy and W**k together i will be shunned for all eternity.
theres political correctness and then there is madness, i think a few people need to loosen up a little, you'll get brain cancer from stressing so much over nothing.
and just one last thing said by a aussie legend (note:this does actual contain verbal language of the F kind so if you are offended don't click here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=G9GO5-dnTN0
Yes, but the true crime is that Lara got her own reality show, although I think it's about to get the axe!
At the OP, seriously, I'm bored at work so I read this whole thread and what that guy said was absolutely nothing really. You went into a shop where his whole job is to sell you stuff, then you get annoyed that he tries hard to do so, then you bring up Warseer or whatever and throw that in his face? Sure, most GW staff don't know that much and the rest of us would love it if they did, (then we could argue with them even more right?) but at the end of the day, its his job to try to be the most knowledgable person about thier product and thier own company makes it hard for them to do so. I'd feel like an idiot too, when every informed customer knew more about my company than I did, but you want to stick it to him because he takes that a bit personally! That's ridiculous! You'd prefer someone who didn't even know about Warseer or Dakka maybe?
That being said, I agree with you about swearing in any capacity to a customer, its not cool, but at the same time, when you are familiar with a customer, part of that relationship is being a bit more open, although sometimes its a tricky balance.
Don't report him for that though, you don't know that when you walked out of the store, he wasn't thinking to himself, 'I probably shouldn't have said that!'
yeah agreed there, it's those kinds of tv exec decisions which have stopped me from watching tv now for quite a while.
I also second all those who are of the don't report him opinion. It's just not worth it for all involved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:37:25
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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You didn't miss much, she still looks like a chipmunk...
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4th company
The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:49:10
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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He gets annoyed because people know about a release before GW "reveals" it? Really dude, he's got bigger problems than you going over his head.
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