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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 21:55:47
Subject: Anti Death star
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hey guys was just wondering what your favorite way of dealing with death stars is?
As it is my meta has a decent amount of death stars in it, so I kinda built an army around taking them out.
My solution is
Coteaz
2nd inquis, either Termy or Xenos for nades, give him hammer hand.
2 storm ravens meltas and assault cannons.
2 henchman
- 5 crusaders
- 6 death cults
I have yet to loose a combat with either of those squads. They are even pretty sturdy for point control as well, I've only lost a squad once and that was to 2 rounds of focused Dark elder fire.
Basically it works like it looks, hammer hand and rad nades go off and you are probabaly wounding on 2-3s with the cultists. Their initiative makes sure nothing gets to attack back and in the case of GK haleberds your anti psyker grenades reduced them to initiative 1 anyway. It is just awesome to to destroy something so awesome with stuff so cheap.
Let me know what you all think or if you have other ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:00:55
Subject: Anti Death star
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Spam AP 2 and AP 3 fire. First I shoot it with a demolisher. If it is still standing I shoot it with my plasma storm troopers (2 plasma guns, a plasma pistol and 7 AP 3 lasguns), if that fails I shoot it with my melta vets. After that they are generally dead simply from the sheer number of AP 1, 2, and 3 wounds. Invul saves are annoying, but when every model suffers 2-4 wounds that ignore their armour they will stop dropping. Honestly I think of have more melta, plasma, and hot-shot las weapons than I do regular lasguns in my army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:03:05
Subject: Anti Death star
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Snord
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So your solution to death stars... is to make your own?
But seen as your basically asking what my solution to a deathstar is...
Guide... and Doom...
Von Chogg
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LunaHound wrote:Eldrad was responsible for 911 *disclaimer, because Eldrad is known to be a dick, making dick moves that takes eons to fruit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:14:51
Subject: Anti Death star
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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So far I have found three things that work well:
1. Wraith with whip coil spam and a mindshackle scarab destroyerlord.
2. Doom scythes.
3. A small squadron of fighters aiming for the exhaust port.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:22:24
Subject: Re:Anti Death star
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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More dakka is a solution to everything. The few units that threaten my Terminator Command Squad tend to not like being drowned in a hail of bullets from two Terminator Squads with Assault Cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:27:13
Subject: Anti Death star
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Unskilled labor in expensive starfighters.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:29:59
Subject: Anti Death star
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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Death star... thats star wars fluff man, what drugs are you on  ?.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:33:44
Subject: Anti Death star
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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I play Tau, so it's the same solution for everything, stay back and shoot the **** out of it.
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Tau and Space Wolves since 5th Edition. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 22:53:51
Subject: Re:Anti Death star
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Nervous Accuser
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Death star... thats star wars fluff man, what drugs are you on ?.
The term "death star" is the common way of referring to an "all your eggs in one basket" beat stick that is hard to take down and can pack a punch, usually lead by a special character or IC. Things like thunder hammer/ storm shield termies, a full paladin squad, eldar seer council on jetbikes, nob bikers. These things involve a considerable investment of points and a battle will often ride one if you can stop them before they hit their target. OT:I use a unit similar to the OP's, a mix of DCA and crusaders lead by a xenos inquisitor for the grenade shenanigans. I would also say that this unit would barely count as a deathstar it self, if at all. The bulk of the unit costs no more then a marine each with a single force multiplying IC that comes in ~100pts, for around 250 ish total is not bad for what it can take out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 23:28:45
Subject: Re:Anti Death star
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Unload into them with 5 venoms then charge in 2 Wych squads. Works everytime
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 23:36:36
Subject: Anti Death star
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Use the force?
and if the doesnt work... use the force.. .130 0rks will do it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 23:43:07
Subject: Anti Death star
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Krazed Killa Kan
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These Star Wars jokes are fabulous. Keep 'em coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 23:47:28
Subject: Anti Death star
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Fixture of Dakka
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Anyone attempting to make Star Wars jokes, I'm afraid Psienesis has already taken the crown: Psienesis wrote:Unskilled labor in expensive starfighters.
On topic, I think my typical solution would be to hold them off with something cheaper, as a pseudo-tarpit, or simply dump a Vindicator (or Demolisher/manticore if you're a Guard player) on top of them.
However, OP, as neither of these options are available to you, you could either soften them with shooting or, as you seem to have gone for instead...
Von Chogg wrote:So your solution to death stars... is to make your own? 
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- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 00:28:57
Subject: Anti Death star
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Shoot a proton torpedo into two meter wide an exhaust port.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 00:47:11
Subject: Anti Death star
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Wraith
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All the Long Fangs.
They can bulls-eye womp rats, you know?
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 02:26:55
Subject: Anti Death star
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Legendary Dogfighter
Garden Grove, CA
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1. Vindicators. Vindicators. Vindicators.
2. (Optional) After tenderizing the unit, if I deem it necessary of more hurt, I pump my lasplas razorbacks into it.
3. Mephiston. I counter your deathstar with my mini-trygon.
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"Do not practice until you get it right, practice until you can not get it wrong." In other words, stop effing up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 02:42:17
Subject: Anti Death star
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Lotsa and lotsa plasma and Str 7 or above weapons. Also my own mini deathstar, A PW/Plasma captain with a command squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 05:03:16
Subject: Anti Death star
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Vindicators, Demolishers, and all the big fat S10 AP1 templates they dish out. My Guard aren't scared of Nobz, Paladins, Terminators, or anything without a crazy good invuln save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 06:59:12
Subject: Anti Death star
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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I usually just tie them up with as many Gretchin as possible whilst a unit of Meganobz, and a Warboss in a trukk deals with scoring units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 09:45:52
Subject: Anti Death star
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Tarpit with Termagaunts and Tervigons, have stealers and hive guard kill everything else and take the objectives.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 13:26:06
Subject: Anti Death star
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Snord
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Brother SRM wrote:Vindicators, Demolishers, and all the big fat S10 AP1 templates they dish out. My Guard aren't scared of Nobz, Paladins, Terminators, or anything without a crazy good invuln save.
Enter my full seer council led by Eldrad and Maugan Ra. Tbh, The council are just there as wounds. No one really survives 3 always-wound-on-2+-and-ignore-armour AND 5 S6 powerweapon hits at crazy WS and I  . Alos, they are an amazing support unit, or Eldrad is... Nothing like having an awesome unit that makes everything else awesome too!
Only thing that makes them cry is mind strike missiles...  But that's why they sit in tanks
Von Chogg
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LunaHound wrote:Eldrad was responsible for 911 *disclaimer, because Eldrad is known to be a dick, making dick moves that takes eons to fruit.
tremere47 wrote:fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 14:29:04
Subject: Anti Death star
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Shoot the assaulty stuff, assault the shooty stuff.
Next question...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 15:00:04
Subject: Anti Death star
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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1) Blast templates
2) Mindshackle scarabs
3) C'tan with Time's Arrow alongside wraiths with whip coils
4) Triarch Stalkers + massive volume of fire (may be one of those times that Heavy Destroyers are a good investment)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 19:11:08
Subject: Re:Anti Death star
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
I wanna go back to New Jersey
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Slow down/ remove their transport so they can fall upon the teeth harder. Basically, slowing them down and shooting is generally a deathstar's basic weakness. Essentially though, the plan is to minimize the amount of turns they have to "make their points back". I'd favor Fire Warriors for this situation as they've been good at putting enough wounds on things to force failed saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 19:12:38
Subject: Anti Death star
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mobility. They can only shoot/assault one thing per turn, so envelop them and keep at it.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 19:19:58
Subject: Anti Death star
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The best in the game, probably, is rough riders. They have a 24" assault range, and when they make their splashy entrance, they attack with 21 S5 I5 power weapon attacks. Furthermore, they only cost 105 points, which means for your average deathstar, you can easily afford three of them.
Not much is going to beat 63 S5 I5 power weapon attacks...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 19:23:48
Subject: Anti Death star
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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kronk wrote:Shoot the assaulty stuff, assault the shooty stuff.
Next question...
Works against almost everything. Except paladins, wich tend to out-shoot and out-assault everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 20:23:30
Subject: Anti Death star
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Seb wrote:kronk wrote:Shoot the assaulty stuff, assault the shooty stuff.
Next question...
Works against almost everything. Except paladins, wich tend to out-shoot and out-assault everything.
In my experience demolisher cannons tend to work well against paladins, wound on a 2+, cause instant death, ignore their armour. Survivors can be mopped up by whatever plasma or melta weapons you have. Used to stick multi-meltas and lascannons on my demolishers to help against tanks and finishing off terminators, but it was generally overkill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 21:31:40
Subject: Anti Death star
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Tarpit with Grots, or Green Tide.
Done and Done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 21:33:54
Subject: Re:Anti Death star
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Rookie Pilot
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Sorry I got as far as this
Unskilled labor in expensive starfighters.
After that I couldn't get the image of snotlings in miniature or pro bomber annoying driago to death out of my head
As for a death star unit if they put all ther points in one unit then you put all you templates in the same place
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