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I'm a store owner, and I just got off the phone with my GW rep. The GW sales team in the US has had a chance to look through the 6th edition books at this point, and he was able to confirm the following for me. None of this stuff is terribly specific, because he wants this Saturday's White Dwarf to have the big reveals:

1) Wound allocation is going to be radically different, and will make the strategy of equipping differently to game the allocation system ineffective. This lines up with the distance-based allocation rumours.
2) Psychic powers are indeed going to work more like magic works in fantasy. Grey Knights won't be affected much because their codex was designed to slot into this new system, but older books will be affected quite a bit, and the new rules are supposed to make psychic powers more accessible for most factions.
3) Allies are 100% in, and not just for team games. There are definitely, without a doubt, rules that allow you to use models in your list from allied factions. Again, he wasn't specific, but he mentioned that you still needed minimum one HQ and two troops from your book, but beyond that allies are an option.
4) Force organization will be largely the same as it currently is. It's not switching to percentage-based or anything like that.

That's all!

Yay, another 6th ed thread!

Thanks for the rumors, but probably should have been added to an existing thread.

That is no different than what already exists in the form of fielding separate detachments.

I'm very interested in seeing more about the Allies.. Finally my mono Nurgle army will have some REAL deamons in it. YAY!

Pretty disappointed about the whole Allies thing, being able to take units from other Codexes will make for some god-awful WAAC lists.

Several of the prior rumors have mentioned that Allies are only for casual games and fluff justifications for team games.

Valkyrie wrote:Pretty disappointed about the whole Allies thing, being able to take units from other Codexes will make for some god-awful WAAC lists.

Not really, I'm sure newer dexs will be designed with ally rules in them and things. Plus some armies (I.e. nids) probably won't have allies.

Honestly, sounds fun! Means I can buy some csm kits to toss in with my daemons

Absolutionis wrote:Several of the prior rumors have mentioned that Allies are only for casual games and fluff justifications for team games.

I would still be happy with that. Not like nurgle has ever been that nasty. I just want a side of nurglings with my Typhus.

Every tournament ever will disallow allies, anyway (except doubles, of course)

Valkyrie wrote:Pretty disappointed about the whole Allies thing, being able to take units from other Codexes will make for some god-awful WAAC lists.

I'm fairly certain it's an optional rule like it has always been. I shouldn't even need to state it but even if it wasn't an optional rule intended for team games, mixed armies won't be allowed at most tournaments in any case. We didn't need a new thread for these totally unsubstianted rumours an unknown guy heard from unnamed sources.

Swara wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:Several of the prior rumors have mentioned that Allies are only for casual games and fluff justifications for team games.

I would still be happy with that. Not like nurgle has ever been that nasty. I just want a side of nurglings with my Typhus.

I shudder to think about CSM shooting combined with Epidemius's Tally abilities.

I welcome it as a modeling aspect. Stormboyz of Khorne and Plaugeorks of Nurgle here I come. hell, I even have room for a genestealer ork kult and kroot-orks.

I am fine if it is kept out of the competative metabase. It is fine for casual play. If someone makes a broken combo, then people can just ignore it and refuse to play it like IA forgeworld units.

Well 40k is looking more and more like Fantasy. GW must have figured that it was too much work to make a new edition, so they just decided to take all of those Fantasy books and put a big 40k sticker on the front.

GW doesn't have to give my wife back her real Bloodletters in her Black Legion army if we can use both books... of course 14 jump pack meltaguns would really help out my Paladins too. Sounds like fun to me!

Cant. Stop. Drooling, finally bloodcrushers messing fools up alongside a chaos lord.



Edit: *Internet high five* received

allies hmmmm...

I could bring my mech IG, with some psyflemen dreads as elites...or purifiers...or terminators of C:SM or TH/SS or a land raider

oh the possibilities

I think this would be pretty ridiculous and broken

unmercifulconker wrote:Cant. Stop. Drooling, finally bloodcrushers messing fools up alongside a chaos lord.

Oh Crap. *internet high five*

I'm glad the FOC remains the same too, that should minimize rebuilding armies too much. I was worried percentages and other changes to scoring would make lots of lists that were built just for one build to be redone. Keep what we have, add cool new stuff and silly allies combos, I'm down with that.

Fear the darkness + weaken resolve = BROKEN.... But its nothing to worry like other said, it will be in casual play one way or another.

This is awful. I was hoping for Warhammer Fantasy-ish balance for this edition, but it appears that won't happen.

I think this would be pretty ridiculous and broken

You think? Mephiston and two TWC lords with storm shields leading 3 squads of Purifiers, 4 units of Grey Hunters, 3 Vendettas and 3 Hydra Batteries against the enemies of the Imperium. GL HF.

Kanluwen wrote:That is no different than what already exists in the form of fielding separate detachments.

The multiple detachment rules make no reference to fielding an army made up from more than one codex.

Therion wrote:

I think this would be pretty ridiculous and broken

You think? Mephiston and two TWC lords with storm shields leading 3 squads of Purifiers, 4 units of Grey Hunters, 3 Vendettas and 3 Hydra Batteries against the enemies of the Imperium. GL HF.

mk, your example was probably better than mine, if i saw someone bring that to the table i would be like : then then then then i would walk away

Space Wolves replace Long Fangs with LRBTs. Schweet.

Therion wrote:

I think this would be pretty ridiculous and broken

You think? Mephiston and two TWC lords with storm shields leading 3 squads of Purifiers, 4 units of Grey Hunters, 3 Vendettas and 3 Hydra Batteries against the enemies of the Imperium. GL HF.

You forgot Long Fangs.

EDIT:

Sarnath'd.

insaniak wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:That is no different than what already exists in the form of fielding separate detachments.

The multiple detachment rules make no reference to fielding an army made up from more than one codex.

There isn't really anything preventing it however.

Detachments have always been a bit wonky, but with a solid core in that you have to have a "standard" list(HQ, 2 Troops minimum) as the base list and then the detachment can only take certain things.

That said:
The "allied factions" thing is no different than how most people who want to do 'themed' forces have done it for quite awhile.

NOooooooooooooooooo! Warhammer magic is hard enough!

Yay my BA and Salamanders can fight side by side ... now I need some orc players to re-enact armegeddon 3 !

I'm going to just hope that's an optional rule for now (like Planet Strike games or Forge World) and not get worked up until I see the rule book.

I really don't think they'd do that for tournaments. Would they?

1500 point or 1000 point core lists with ally "sidebars" of 500 points each to add between games... MTG style tourneys from back in the day. Makes me want to buy models if I can add a unit or two from one book and get to start playing with them in a tried and true list. I hope some events use it in some way rather than just saying "no allies". Are we so determined to be competitive that we can't have some stupid fun every now and then?

Fortuned Paladins.

Game, broken.

Unless there are some serious restrictions on this, this will be utterly game breaking.

We'll have to see what it all means, but man, this sounds unsettling.