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It just dosen't make sense, surely Khorne would like the Orks for there war like nature, and I'm sure that Tzeentch would like an army of mindless, undieing Necrons at his comand and why dosen't Slaanesh have some of the Eldar soules he wants so much?

For all the people who have read my other threads I apologies for any spelling mistakes (past, present and future) and for any offence I have caused (unless you deserved it) and I'd not just whining this time!

Orks are resistant to chaos, hence why they can travel through the warp without sheilding.
Necrons are machines at the end of the day, I would assume they're resistant.

The eldar now know of the threat slaanesh faces them, they're smart enough to tone down themselves so slaanesh doesn't break out. Obviously sometimes this fails.


Orks wouldn't ally, khorne provide to much of a good fight. Why would they pass that up?

Well, the dark eldar do much to aid for Slaanesh, though they don't worship the god itself.

I think it just comes down to each race, the eldar have their own gods and purposely avoid chaos due to the after effects of the fall of the eldar race.
Orks just don't care, they have Gork and Mork and enjoy fighting too much to really bother with chaos.
Tau are token athiests as they refuse to believe in daemons or chaos so aren't really susceptible.
Necrons are, at least in the current 'dex god killers and mindless automatons, they wouldn't be involved with chaos as the chaos gods need organic life.
Tyranids just wouldn't due to the whole hive mind, no personality drones thing.

I think that's everyone

Meridia wrote:I think that's everyone

Not exactly.
Chaos does have xenos followers in the form of dozens of minor xenos. The Yu'Vath and the Xenarch, from Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy respectively, are both xenos who worshiped the warp and used sorcery to gained power through it.

As it's been said above, it's mainly because the different races have their own respective gods.
Tau have little to no Warp presence, so the Chaos gods pay them little attention and vice versa.
Orks have Gork and Mork, they're in it just for fighting and not for spilling blood and collecting skulls, their psychic signature manifests itself as the power of the Waaagh! fuelling the entire group of orks, not really giving power to Khorne.
The necrons used to be the Necrontyr, they had their own gods, the C'Tan, who hated the warp and everything to do for it, after basically turning the C'Tan into Pokémon, the Necrons just turned themselves into terminators and went to sleep for a while (and waged war on the Old Ones, who mastered the Warp, created 99% of life in the galaxy and basically caused the Chaos gods to exist, but that's a whole other story), so necrons don't like the Warp, will not not worship Chaos.
The Eldar had their own gods before the fall, an entire pantheon of whom there are only three left, and one of them is in pieces. After realising that they caused the birth of another Chaos god, who then proceeded to use the Eldar race as a buffet table, they decided to chill out and protect themselves against Chaos, or carry on with their cocaine orgies and be devoured upon death by the incarnation of all their nightmares.
Tyranids don't really have individual minds of great importance, rather they have a joint consciousness (the Hive Mind) which is too busy eating planets to be affected by Chaos.
I've heard of minor races such as Kroot falling to Chaos in smaller numbers, but mainly, it's humans that fall to Chaos because they're weak and uneducated against the dangers Chaos has.

And don't sweat it bro, I was in a bad mood when I had a go yesterday, sorry.

Humanity spawned the Chaos gods (except Slaanesh, and even he gets some fuel from humanity), they are the most numerous and psychically volatile race in the galaxy (orks don't qualify for aforementioned reasons).

Necrons have no Warp presence. Tau barely have a Warp presence, and they are so insignificant in the great scheme of things, they're not worth bothering with. Eldar just get auto-gobbled up by Slaanesh.

jareddm wrote:Chaos does have xenos followers in the form of dozens of minor xenos.

This is the correct answer. The galaxy is full of the ruins of xenos empires that worshiped Chaos. As to why they aren't represented in the tabletop game? Well, how many Chaos flavors of existing factions do you need? (Answer: one is enough, thanks.)

Well, there are vague hints that Ahra and a small core of Eldar are into Chaos worship.

And I seem to recall that, in older editions, Orks did in fact have small sects worshipping Khorne. These sects comprised of brash young Orks who were regarded with indifference by their older kin, since they would grow out of that phase and return to propa' Orky valuez.

Think of this fact for a minute - Khorne, the root of all violence and bloodshed everywhere, and patron sait of axe murderers everywhere. And Orks treated him like a learning experience... or like highschool... or puberty... fething crazy...

The reason you see only human followers in the game is that humanity is the race with the largest population suceptable to the lure of chaos, there are however other minor races that worship chaos.

The explanations of Dark Eldar not being Chaos corrupted is rather incongruous. Certainly plenty of humans corrupted by Slaanesh do things that fuel his power without ever knowing who or what they are following. The things the Dark Eldar do should probably be corrupting them, even if they aren't knowingly following Chaos. That's kind of the thing with Chaos and its insidiousness.

The Eisenhorn series of books mentions at least 1 Xeno race that was massively more advanced than humans, but horribly corrupted by Chaos. Also in the Horus heresy series, quite early on I believe, there are nasty evil alien weapons that are dripping in chaos corrupted power. There references are there, and even if they weren't its an infinite galaxy, so you could make some up

All Eldar souls belong to Slaanesh, without exception. Dark Eldar ward off this by eating the souls of others (which is why they take slaves), basically trying to extend their life indefinitely so that Slaanesh never takes them (these souls they take all go to Slaanesh, so yes, they do increase Slaanesh's power - but only in exchange for their continued lives). Craftworld Eldar have Spirit Stones, so when they die, their souls are kept in the Stones and not consumed by Slaanesh. Eldar can't worship the other gods because they're automatically Slaanesh's property, and it would require one of the others to actively usurp Slaanesh for the souls of some Eldar, which they have no reason to do.

The Necron are soulless. Even in the current edition where they're people, they can't worship Chaos even if they wanted. Well, they could, but being soulless means they're of zero interest to the gods.

The Tau are warp-immune. The Kroot lead very fulfilling lives, and have no real reason to start worshipping Chaos.

The Orks are effectively warp-immune as well, and also don't care for worship. Also, Gork/Mork are more powerful than the Chaos Gods, so there's no edging in on part of say, Khorne.

The Tyranids are warp-immune and not susceptible to the petty needs which drive worship. Also, they are effectively soulless, too.

The Imperium is full of oppression and misery. For many, Chaos is the only thing they can turn to, in order to get away from the horrific apathy of the Imperium. Humans don't have a special excuse either, and the Gods are very much interested in them. Marines turned Traitor primarily due to Horus (and we all know that story), and further heresy can be anything from personal need for power (Tzeentch) to simply wanting to kill more stuff (Khorne), etc.

There are countless unimportant races in 40k, none of which large or powerful enough to be worth mentioning. Many of these worship Chaos as part of the Lost and Damned.

Wasn't there some Black Library novel in which a Farseer had turned to Slaanesh?

Other than that, I'm fairly sure that there's lots of minor xenos races throughout the galaxy - it's just that we rarely hear about them because GW is focusing on the major powers. That said, I'm sure that Chaos has a lot of followers amongst various mutant populations as well, given how the Imperium treats them (slavery and genocide).

Lynata wrote:Wasn't there some Black Library novel in which a Farseer had turned to Slaanesh?

It was a C.S. Goto novel, and thus is inapplicable to the matter at hand.

Kanluwen wrote:It was a C.S. Goto novel, and thus is inapplicable to the matter at hand.

lol

Okay.

Also, like... well, pretty much any canon source in 40k - Black Library stuff isn't strictly canon.

Especially C.S. Goto, though. Stuff like Exarchs leaving their Aspect and keeping their armour, I've heard. I've also heard about a Carnifex with a multilaser, but nobody can seem to place that rumour...

Orks: They have Gork and Mork. Even more powerful then the Chaos Gods. Orks basically have their own little corner of the warp to call their own.

Eldar: Some Eldar are rumored to follow some Chaos Gods. Craftworld and Dark Eldar as a whole don't worship chaos and would be very pissed at any Eldar doing so.

Tau: Whats the warp?

Nids: nomnomnomnomnomnom...



there are many minor races that worship chaos in some form. They are just dwarfed by the numbers of humanity and can't even shake a stick on the galactic scale.

IMO an inidivdual from all known races can concievably fall to Chaos s long as it has a a soul to pledge to the Warp powers. Many of these were covvered in the old Witch Huners Codex.

New Necrons - some are now full fledged individuals and so could be tempted.
Orks - very rare but not impossible
Eldar - some still fall and the remainder have to have a particular way to prevent this - The Eldar Path is one way.
Many "Minor" Xenos races fall to Chaos
Tryanids - but not impossible - Genestealer Cults can turn to them in desperation.
Tau are not immune

no race is................

Grey Templar wrote:Orks: They have Gork and Mork. Even more powerful then the Chaos Gods. Orks basically have their own little corner of the warp to call their own.

I remember reading about a bunch of Orks stumbling over a shrine for Nurgle and thought it was Gork and/or Mork, so they started worshipping it and got turned into Chaos Orks. Wasn't that in one of the Codices actually? It's an older bit of fluff, though, several years at least.

Frozen Ocean wrote:Also, like... well, pretty much any canon source in 40k - Black Library stuff isn't strictly canon.

Or Forgeworld, or Black Industries / FFG. Heck, even GW isn't canon, Gav Thorpe said as much. Consistency is pretty much guaranteed solely for the one single book you're holding in your hands at a time - although I believe that, overall, the studio material has been fairly consistent over the last couple years, apart from stuff like Newcrons or the new role of the GKs. Prolly because unlike BL the books were written by the same team again and again, though the "studio vision" may of course change with the influx of new writers and their own new ideas (I'm looking at you, Mr. Ward).

Orks can certaintly be tainted, but only if they get tricked like that incident. Or they just didn't care.

That Warboss who'se fighting eternally on a Daemon World of Khorne is pretty darn happy. But he's not tainted by Khorne.

There was one instance where a bunch of Orks started worshipping a shrine to Nurgle thinking it was one to Gork or Mork and ended up as Chaos Orks, but that's about it. Most of the major races in 40k have either little to no Warp presence (Tau, Necrons) or some sort or shielding against the gods (Orks, Eldar, Nids unless it's just that the average Tyranid isn't smart enough to start worshipping things), which leaves humanity as the only race large enough to be seen worshipping Chaos a lot. A lot of species confined to a single solar system have been seen worshipping the gods though, like the Laer. Perhaps the problem is that a race which begins worshipping early enough in their culture for it to be intrinsic to it is crippled by Chaos' self-defeating nature to become a major force, while those who discover it later on are large enough to guard against the threat?

By and large, they are humanity's gods. Other races have their own gods, or used to anyway.

Answer, they don't. GW just doesn't want to make any rules for them and make very little fluff about it either.

And not all chaos gods are spawned by humans, and there aren't 4 chaos gods as many people think, they are just the biggest, badest and most powerful.

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
And not all chaos gods are spawned by humans, and there aren't 4 chaos gods as many people think, they are just the biggest, badest and most powerful.

Aren't all gods technically Chaos Gods (Except for C'tan, but they're not really 'gods', just beings sufficiently powerful to be called as such)? Gork, Mork, Kaela Mensha Khaine (the failboat that he is) and all the other Eldar gods are Warp entities, right? So, technically they are also Chaos Gods.

But yes, you're absolutely right. It's just like the main factions; only the biggest and most important races/Gods get the spotlight. Generally these are represented as part of Chaos Undivided (like Furies).

All gods (minus C'tan) are Warp Gods. Chaos and Warp aren't exactly the same thing.

there still aren't only 4 chaos gods, though

I don't disagree there (Malice for example) just don't believe the eldar gods or Gork n Mork are chaos gods.

The out of universe reason is that in the tabletop they tend to oversimplify and streamline compared to what is in the fluff (any fluff really) and they don't bother making figures, lists, etc. for every possible combination of foes one faction or another might have out there. For all we know some of the mutants, beastmen, etc. could very well be aliens (or mutated aliens. No reason aliens are less immune to the corruption of Chaos.)

beastmen are abhumans, and look the way they do naturally, not because of chaos mutantion

but because of their appearence, the IoM shuns them, and some turn to chaos

others stay strong and join the IG on backworld planets who don't cre about the 'hate and shun most abhumans' rules

King Pariah wrote:I don't disagree there (Malice for example) just don't believe the eldar gods or Gork n Mork are chaos gods.

That's because you're correct. Chaos is a force (not really any better way to describe it) that resides in the Warp. Not everything in the Warp is part of Chaos.