Boehner doesn't love Romney

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**Kid_Kyoto**

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/58_1/John-Boehner-Voters-Need-Not-Love-Mitt-Romney-215934-1.html

The key bit - "“Listen, we’re just politicians. I wasn’t elected to play God. The American people probably aren’t going to fall in love with Mitt Romney. I’ll tell you this: 95 percent of the people that show up to vote in November are going to show up in that voting booth, and they are going to vote for or against Barack Obama.

“Mitt Romney has some friends, relatives and fellow Mormons ... some people that are going to vote for him. But that’s not what this election is about. This election is going to be a referendum on the president’s failed economic policies."

Entire article:

John Boehner: Voters Need Not Love Mitt Romney

By Jonathan Strong
Roll Call Staff
July 7, 2012, 11:01 a.m.

Chris Maddaloni/CQ Roll Call

By now, Republican laments that presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney is not the most inspiring figure to ever run for president are well-known.

“The Republican bench had several candidates stronger than Romney, but they chose not to run,” conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer recently wrote.

Romney took a relatively long time to conquer his rivals in the GOP primary, and some Republicans have recently expressed concern about the state of the former Massachusetts governor’s campaign against President Barack Obama.

But at a June 30 fundraiser in Wheeling, W.Va., Speaker John Boehner offered a surprisingly frank assessment of the dynamic that surprised some in the audience.

Aside from Romney’s “friends, relatives and fellow Mormons,” Boehner said, most people will be motivated to vote for him in opposition to Obama.

The Ohio Republican made the remarks when an unidentified woman asked during a question-and-answer session: “Can you make me love Mitt Romney?”

“No,” Boehner said. “Listen, we’re just politicians. I wasn’t elected to play God. The American people probably aren’t going to fall in love with Mitt Romney. I’ll tell you this: 95 percent of the people that show up to vote in November are going to show up in that voting booth, and they are going to vote for or against Barack Obama.

“Mitt Romney has some friends, relatives and fellow Mormons ... some people that are going to vote for him. But that’s not what this election is about. This election is going to be a referendum on the president’s failed economic policies.

“Mitt Romney believes, just like we do, that if we’re going to get the economy back, if we’re going to put the American people back to work, we need to fix the tax code, we need to stop the regulatory juggernaut that’s going on in Washington and we need to fix our economy. Solid guy, he’s going to do a great job, even if you don’t fall in love with him.”

In contrast to Romney, Obama’s 2008 victory was boosted by the enthusiastic devotion of his followers.

Since then, he has faced complaints from the left and the poor economy has dampened enthusiasm among young voters.

In moves widely perceived to be aimed at revving up the base, Obama has taken several executive actions, such as his recent announcement that his administration would cease deporting some undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country when they were young and have stayed out of trouble. That move, for instance, could boost his support among Hispanics.

Boehner’s political office provided the quote after being contacted by Roll Call about somewhat different versions relayed by people in the audience of 200 to 300.

The fundraiser to benefit the Boehner for Speaker campaign committee was originally scheduled to be held in St. Clairsville, Ohio, but was moved to an arena in nearby West Virginia because of power outages from derecho storms the previous weekend.

Robert Murray, CEO of the Murray Energy Corp., hosted the event.

Boehner also hosted a June 29 fundraiser at Republican Rep. Shelley Moore Capito’s home in Charleston, W.Va., according to the Charleston Gazette.

Also over the recess break, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) was scheduled to be a special guest at a fundraiser for Romney Sunday in the Hamptons, N.Y.

An invitation for the lunch event published by the Sunlight Foundation requested $25,000 per person for a VIP photo reception and $5,000 to gain entry to just the lunch.

House Republican Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) was in Russia on a Congressional delegation trip.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s office said the California Democrat was with her family and declined to provide any details about her schedule.

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer attended a Tuesday party to celebrate the holiday at the Herrington Harbour South Marina in Anne Arundel County, Md., and came to Washington, D.C., for the Fourth of July.

The Maryland Democrat traveled to Rhode Island on Friday, where he was scheduled to attend events with Democratic Reps. James Langevin and David Cicilline.

Boehner also released a video message for the Fourth of July, filmed in the Capitol Rotunda with patriotic music in the background.

“From our earliest days, Americans have marked the Fourth of July as the ‘great anniversary celebration,’ as John Adams predicted it would be. We raise Old Glory, march down Main Street, and light up the skies — our pride front and center, like [John] Hancock’s signature itself,” Boehner said.

In actuality, Adams believed July 2, the day the Second Continental Congress adopted a resolution of independence from Great Britain, would be the anniversary celebration marked by generations.

In a letter to his wife, Abigail, the future president wrote: “The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival.”

July 4 is the day the Second Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence.
JonathanStrong@cqrollcall.com | @j_strong

**Jihadin**

Mit or Obama....either way...we're doomed. I actually probaly will vote for Mit. I doubt we survive as a nation with another 4 yrs of Obama.

**LoneLictor**

Jihadin wrote:Mit or Obama....either way...we're doomed. I actually probaly will vote for Mit. I doubt we survive as a nation with another 4 yrs of Obama.

I'm curious as to why you think that.

**MeanGreenStompa**

I think you've only survived as a nation, or at least avoided full blown depression, due to Obama.

Romney has made millions making companies bankrupt, he was born a millionaire and has never had to work or struggle to achieve, hardly suited to represent the people. Also, he can't even take care of a dog, I don't think that is a ringing endorsement of his capacity to care for the rest of us.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Jihadin wrote:Mit or Obama....either way...we're doomed. I actually probaly will vote for Mit. I doubt we survive as a nation with another 4 yrs of Obama.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

We survived 8 years of Bush and 6 years of Nixon after all.

**Jihadin**

How many more bail outs can we afford? Just throwing that out there. Not like I'm trying to light a fire under this thread....

**hotsauceman1**

Right now im wondering
"Who is going to be the least likely to kill us all" of the two.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Jihadin wrote:How many more bail outs can we afford? Just throwing that out there. Not like I'm trying to light a fire under this thread....

Bush passed the bailout, and most of the money was repaid.

I know it's a hot button issue, I know a lot of people think it was a mistake, but it's important to throw out those major major facts.

**Jihadin**

I think Mit would do the country good compare to Obama

**mattyrm**

Jihadin wrote:I think Mit would do the country good compare to Obama

Only cos your an American soldier mate, and 80% of you lot are dyed in Republicans.

I dont like Obama, I was there for his election and we voted for an independent. It was gonna be McCain until he brought dippy bastard Sarah along....

But this time, its 100% Obama. Better him than that fether Mitt. I would rather have pretty much any other Republican than him, and I don't even have to start on that bat gak magical Mormon gak that makes Jesus come from America. I know all politicians are lying bastards (Obama most definately is!) but Mitt is a proper war dodging little viper.

The man is lower than a snakes belly, and I trust him about as far as I could throw ... er... Rosanne Barr?

**generalgrog**

Unfortunately I fall into the category of voting "against Obama", not "for Romney"....it will be a hold my nose and vote moment.

Where is Pat Buchanan when you need him.

GG

**Aerethan**

This reminds me of when it was between Bush and Kerry. It's basically which color of gak do you want: green or brown?

What it comes down to is this: Do you want Obama still in office, or are you ok with damn near anyone else? The alternative may not be that great, but do you think that ANY alternative will be better/more effective than Obama has been?

While I'm not too keen on Mormons(except for the 5 cool ones I know in real life, most of whom drink soda and swear), I think that Obama had his shot, and failed miserably at it. I'm not saying that the job is easy, but he has delivered feth all. He gave away a gak ton of money to the wrong people, many of whom are going bankrupt anyway, and he forced this healthcare crap down our throats in a way that many people will be screwed out of healthcare altogether. While I may not vote for Romney, I most certainly NOT vote for Obama. I'd honestly rather throw my vote away than have either, so I'll let the rest of the country decide who to go with. My conscience will be clean of the matter.

Ron Paul 2012!

**Piston Honda**

I remember when people said 4 years of Obama would bring Terrorists to our shores, take our guns away, take money from white people and give it to black people, there would be more illegal Mexicans than ever before, attack Christianity and my favorite of them all. Become dictator and remove the election process.

**Jihadin**

I prefer Trump actually

**Aerethan**

Piston Honda wrote:I remember when people said 4 years of Obama would bring Terrorists to our shores, take our guns away, take money from white people and give it to black people, there would be more illegal Mexicans than ever before, attack Christianity and my favorite of them all. Become dictator and remove the election process.

All of that would be somehow better than him not doing a damn thing in 4 years, which he did.

**Mannahnin**

Got some healthcare reform passed. Helped pull the economy out of the gutter. We were headed for the cliff when he took over, and he helped steer us away from it.

Romney advocates for and represents the same policies (lower taxes combined with spending, less regs and oversight on banks and lenders) that drove us into that ditch/toward that cliff in the first place.

**Jihadin**

The economy out of the gutter?

**Piston Honda**

Aerethan wrote:
Piston Honda wrote:I remember when people said 4 years of Obama would bring Terrorists to our shores, take our guns away, take money from white people and give it to black people, there would be more illegal Mexicans than ever before, attack Christianity and my favorite of them all. Become dictator and remove the election process.

All of that would be somehow better than him not doing a damn thing in 4 years, which he did.

Nothing?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

**Jihadin**

You actualy read that website page top to bottom? I see college playoff syste was high on my list...watch haven list for off shore bank to countries that doesn't share that info? Swiss banks comes to mind. How long did they have their policy?

**Piston Honda**

Mannahnin wrote:Got some healthcare reform passed. Helped pull the economy out of the gutter. We were headed for the cliff when he took over, and he helped steer us away from it.

Romney advocates for and represents the same policies (lower taxes combined with spending, less regs and oversight on banks and lenders) that drove us into that ditch/toward that cliff in the first place.

We're still in the gutter.

One thing I have to tip my hat to President Obama is his foreign policy, most of it I have agreed with. Something I wish he did different or faster, but I am not in his shoes.

As for the Economy, Obama and crew had 2 years to do what he wanted. While I believe he tried a few things to get the economy back on track, most of his efforts seemed to fall on party issues. Now we are in a tug-o-war where neither side will budge. Blame now falls on both sides.

Economy is the number one issue, fortunately for the Romney camp most voters believe he is better suited for that job. Economy trumps other issues during a recession.

Personally, I think Obama lost the election when the health care ruling was ruled constitutional.

Think it will come down to 1 - 3 states with a Romney win.

Unless Mitt picks someone embarrassing as VP.

**Jihadin**

Unless Mitt picks someone embarrassing as VP.

110% agree with you Piston

**Piston Honda**

Jihadin wrote:You actualy read that website page top to bottom? I see college playoff syste was high on my list...watch haven list for off shore bank to countries that doesn't share that info? Swiss banks comes to mind. How long did they have their policy?

Yup. Though Obama did not have any direct influence on the college playoff system he did say (more than a few times with ESPN interviews) how he would love to help a push for college football playoffs, calling the current system "corrupt".

Though I don't think the site is giving him 100 percent credit or even a lot of credit, Obama's thoughts on college football playoffs have echoed many times on the topic on sports talk radio, ESPN, etc. Think that is why they included it.

**dogma**

Aerethan wrote:This reminds me of when it was between Bush and Kerry. It's basically which color of gak do you want: green or brown?

I've probably said it before, but the comparison of Romney and Kerry is fairly apt.

**Relapse**

mattyrm wrote:
Jihadin wrote:I think Mit would do the country good compare to Obama

Only cos your an American soldier mate, and 80% of you lot are dyed in Republicans.

I dont like Obama, I was there for his election and we voted for an independent. It was gonna be McCain until he brought dippy bastard Sarah along....

But this time, its 100% Obama. Better him than that fether Mitt. I would rather have pretty much any other Republican than him, and I don't even have to start on that bat gak magical Mormon gak that makes Jesus come from America. I know all politicians are lying bastards (Obama most definately is!) but Mitt is a proper war dodging little viper.

The man is lower than a snakes belly, and I trust him about as far as I could throw ... er... Rosanne Barr?

I have to correct you here, Mat. We don't believe Jesus came from America,
we do believe he visited America after his ressurection.

**Jihadin**

have to correct you here, Mat. We don't believe Jesus came from America,
we do believe he visited America after his ressurection.

Have to correct you Relapse being that I'm the Man before the man who related to a guy who 3rd cousin to the individual who's a associate with a guy that knows the guy that unrelated to the guy who is 4th placed from the guy that drinks beers with a real distant relative that was a 70 pornstar it seems that knows the guy that supposedly on the grapevine with a guy that recieves memo's from a guy who delivers water to a building this guy owns who supposedly have a seat at 3rd tier management in the food chain that corperate HQ has establish to the guy that has the in with the guy that supposedly is the right hand of JC himself....so its completely reliable...it was not JC who visited Amerika because JC is white

**Relapse**

Jihadin wrote:
have to correct you here, Mat. We don't believe Jesus came from America,
we do believe he visited America after his ressurection.

Have to correct you Relapse being that I'm the Man before the man who related to a guy who 3rd cousin to the individual who's a associate with a guy that knows the guy that unrelated to the guy who is 4th placed from the guy that drinks beers with a real distant relative that was a 70 pornstar it seems that knows the guy that supposedly on the grapevine with a guy that recieves memo's from a guy who delivers water to a building this guy owns who supposedly have a seat at 3rd tier management in the food chain that corperate HQ has establish to the guy that has the in with the guy that supposedly is the right hand of JC himself....so its completely reliable...it was not JC who visited Amerika because JC is white

I don't know about who visited Amerika, but it's Mormon doctrine Jesus visited America.

**Jihadin**

Did he use Visa or MasterCard?

**Aerethan**

Relapse wrote:
Jihadin wrote:
have to correct you here, Mat. We don't believe Jesus came from America,
we do believe he visited America after his ressurection.

Have to correct you Relapse being that I'm the Man before the man who related to a guy who 3rd cousin to the individual who's a associate with a guy that knows the guy that unrelated to the guy who is 4th placed from the guy that drinks beers with a real distant relative that was a 70 pornstar it seems that knows the guy that supposedly on the grapevine with a guy that recieves memo's from a guy who delivers water to a building this guy owns who supposedly have a seat at 3rd tier management in the food chain that corperate HQ has establish to the guy that has the in with the guy that supposedly is the right hand of JC himself....so its completely reliable...it was not JC who visited Amerika because JC is white

I don't know about who visited Amerika, but it's Mormon doctrine Jesus visited America.

For the love of Joseph Smith can we not turn this into a Mormonism thread? I just don't have the energy and patience for that right now.

Also, Obama is all about severe punishments for Marijuana related "crimes" when he himself ADMITS to smoking a ton of weed before politics as well as "maybe a little blow". And as we all know, there is no such thing as a little blow, and maybe means yes. If the same punishments for weed were in place back before his career and he'd been caught, Obama wouldn't have made it anywhere near the presidency. It is hypocritical for him to advocate harsh punishment for things that he was guilty of himself at one point, even if he doesn't do it anymore.

Everyone thought that he was going to be the messiah of US politics, and he ended up being another useless mass of flesh(albeit darker flesh than any other before him) sitting in an office doing feth all.

And no one can claim that the healthcare reform was a good thing when 1. there was no popular vote for it and 2. about half the people I've read from are pissed off that they will be losing insurance that will soon be illegal in some form or another. ANYTHING that will affect the entire country should be voted on by the entire fething country.

And how is the economy in an upturn from 4 years ago? Try getting a non minimum wage job here in California. feth, try even getting a minimum wage job.

The #1 unskilled career for people with little formal education was construction. Who is building new houses and buildings right now? fething no one that's who.

Pretty soon illegal immigrants are going to be complaining about how white people are stealing their jobs because there aren't any other ones out there, so Derek has to go pick strawberries all day to pay his rent.

**Mannahnin**

Anyone remember the stock market in Fall/Spring of 2008/2009?

The economy's still poor. It's a lot better than it was when he came into office. We were bearing down on a Depression, and instead stayed at and have been pulling out of a Recession. Fraz and other Repub doomsayers opposed the stimulus package, saying it would lead to a double-dip Recession. Instead, countries like the UK practicing Austerity have had the double-dip Recessions, while we've been climbing out of ours.

Healthcare reform WAS a significant part of what the Presidential election was about. It's a big part of the reason I voted for him; he repeatedly promised us a Public Option, both on the campaign trail and in his national debates with McCain, and we elected him. He didn't deliver on that, which disappoints me. He didn't deliver on it because he adopted a Republican-created reform plan, in the hopes of getting a major bipartisan reform package passed without too much screaming and opposition. Sadly, he underestimated the pure political gamesmanship, bloody-mindedness, and unwillingness to compromise that was present across the aisle.

Healthcare is THE major longterm economic problem in this country, and reforming the system and getting costs under control is massively important to the extended economic health of our nation. The Republican party and most of the Dems stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem while taking campaign contributions from the health insurance industry.

Only ignorant people though he was any kind of messiah, but he had a lot of good ideas, and has honestly worked to bring most of them to fruition, in the face of dedicated and intractable opposition.

On drugs and government abuses of the constitution he's continued most of the same policies of the last thirty years. Which has disappointed a lot of us.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Jihadin wrote:I prefer Trump actually

LOL.

You mean 4 times bankrupt Donald Trump of the Birther Lunacy division of the already gak eating crazy 'tea party'?