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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker






So. Abbadon is hitting at initiative with an ap 2 weapon. Once again he's THE beast of close combat. So, besides shooting him with everything you've got, what else can you do but try to stay out of his way?

The Emperor Protects
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
end up in Nurgle's clutches and he uses you as a loofah.  
   
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Tough Tyrant Guard





Have my Swarmlord eat him?
   
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on the forum. Obviously

- Get 5 necron lords (the court variant)
-Give them all Warscythes
-Give them all MSS
-(Optional) Give them all Phase Shifters
-Get them into combat with abbadon
-???
-PROFIT!

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Peace through power!

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Bergen

Grab a tervigon.

When abbadon gets close burry him in termifgants. While moving on.

   
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In your squads, doing the chainsword tango

 Gloomfang wrote:
Have my Swarmlord eat him?

Damn. Beaten worse than a redheaded stepchild.

Either than or a mob or 2 of da boyz

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Take Old Zogwort. Turn him into a squig. Squigs are much easier to beat in combat.
   
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Western Kentucky

Doesn't he cost an obscene amount ofpoints? If that's true, i'd jus shoot the rest of his army to death, and then laugh as my guardsmen are free to roam the board while I pour my entire army's firepower into him.

My orks will probably just throw a 30 strong mob at him and laugh as he never escapes that, or throw some nob bikers at him and cave his skull in.

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Abby is now the #1 beatstick ic in the game, and the sky is not falling.

Beat him down wity a 10 man salamander th/ss squad.

Watch him roll a 1 for his deamon weapon and fall on his face.

Challenge him in cc with Lucas the trickster.

Turn him into a squig or chaos spawn.

Lash his unit together and light his unit up with 9 flamers of Tzeentch.

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Roll better.

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Drach'nyen is still AP 3 in the current FAQ.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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I've never really seen Abaddon as that scary, don't get me wrong in terms of special characters he is both good and high on the list. I however would say I'm more afraid of Mephiston and plenty of other characters before I even start to worry about Abaddon.

Although he is quite expensive and as mentioned if you bog him down or outweigh him with numbers enough, you can generally take him. My preference would be to low the rest of his army away,

Abaddon .vs. All of my surviving firepower.

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on the forum. Obviously

Why should we fear him, he has no arm

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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
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He is slow. Just keep walking away from him.

   
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Yawn and shoot him repeatedly.

That or have Ghaz pull his head off

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I prefer Yriel to Abbadon. Yriel wounds you on 2s no matter how tough you are. And you get no armour saving throw. So better than AP 3 or 2. And swamping him with a unit of Orks or Imperial Guardsmen doesn't work as his Eye of Wrath will kill most if not all of them.

"Khorne is a noble warrior who respects strength and bravery, who takes no joy in destroying the weak, and considers the helpless unworthy of his wrath. It is said that fate will spare any brave warrior who calls upon Khorne's name and pledges his soul to the blood god. It is also said that Khorne's daemons will hunt down and destroy any warrior who betrays his honour by killing a helpless innocent or murdering in cold blood..."

from the Renegades supplement for Epic Space Marine, page 54-55
 
   
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Interesting. A lot of stuff I didn't even think about. Admittedly, I run blood angels and grey knights and I'm not 100% familiar with the other codices. Guess he's not as intimidating as first glance makes him.

The Emperor Protects
_______________________________________
Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
end up in Nurgle's clutches and he uses you as a loofah.  
   
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Mephiston is not as scary now that he is only AP3.

And i would still say the Swarmlord is the number 1 beatstick in the game. He costs as much as a landraider though.
   
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 Gloomfang wrote:
Mephiston is not as scary now that he is only AP3.

And i would still say the Swarmlord is the number 1 beatstick in the game. He costs as much as a landraider though.


But then there's the thing about swarmy being only 3+ w/o EW, making him have trouble with force weapons/MSS.

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 EnormousName wrote:
 Gloomfang wrote:
Mephiston is not as scary now that he is only AP3.

And i would still say the Swarmlord is the number 1 beatstick in the game. He costs as much as a landraider though.


But then there's the thing about swarmy being only 3+ w/o EW, making him have trouble with force weapons/MSS.


He has a 5++ in CC (as I thought we were only talking about CC). As for EW, you have a 2 in 3 chance of getting it with Biomancy.

But Swarmlord does have a few limits. MSS is the biggest problem as he can force himself to re-roll his save and then ID himself if he doesn't have Iron Arm. I pack a Prime in my Nidstar just for taking challanges from MSS and things like Loki (also to avoid tarpit challanges).

Abbadon's weaknesses are that he doesn't cause ID (well no more than a powerfist), he isn't AP2 and he doesn't have any psychic defences.

   
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Either Ol Zog as the orks, or a necron court filled with tesseracts as the necrons.

Roll below your wounds, abbadon. Now do it five times.

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"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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I've notice this a few times now. Why isn't Abbadon considered ap2? I know his deamon sword isn't specifically listed as ap2, but it seems evident that deamon weapons in general, in c:csm anyway, are ap2.

The Emperor Protects
_______________________________________
Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
end up in Nurgle's clutches and he uses you as a loofah.  
   
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I also thought they were FAQ`d to be all AP2 now
   
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Niiai wrote:Grab a tervigon.

When abbadon gets close burry him in termifgants. While moving on.



This made me chuckle.

Jihallah wrote:
 Gloomfang wrote:
Have my Swarmlord eat him?

Damn. Beaten worse than a redheaded stepchild.

Either than or a mob or 2 of da boyz


This is how I would handle him.


Dr. What wrote:Take Old Zogwort. Turn him into a squig. Squigs are much easier to beat in combat.


The look on the opponents face would be worth 300pts worth of Zog. And unlucky for them, Zoggy doesnt cost near that much
   
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Stormbreed wrote:
I also thought they were FAQ`d to be all AP2 now


He most certainly is.
   
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Bristol

Stormbreed wrote:
I also thought they were FAQ`d to be all AP2 now


Yup.

Makes it kinda silly that Typhus' Manreaper and Kharn's Gorechild are Unwieldy now. Also when writing the profile for Manreaper they appear to have forgotten that it has Poisoned Attacks.

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Dr. What wrote:
Take Old Zogwort. Turn him into a squig. Squigs are much easier to beat in combat.


WAAAGH!

As an Ork player, +1 for Zogwort
   
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England

Is lucius Ap2 now aswell ?
   
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I shoot all I got on him and his unit and then let my thunderwolves get him

if i run 2 lone wolves (i run either 0 or 2) with terminator+chainfist+stormshield, this is their time to shine. I send them both towards him, they are built for this task damnit

Lucas trickster might also work, space wolves has so many anwsers.

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I am not familiar with Abbadons stats, how would Tycho (original or extra spicy) fair against Abbadon? Tycho has 2+4+, and his attacks ignore armor saves. Iirc DC Tycho has rage and FNP also.

   
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 TheLionOfTheForest wrote:
I am not familiar with Abbadons stats, how would Tycho (original or extra spicy) fair against Abbadon? Tycho has 2+4+, and his attacks ignore armor saves. Iirc DC Tycho has rage and FNP also.


He'd die horribly before getting to swing unless Abaddon rolls a 1 for his Daemon Weapon. It's not even a contest.

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