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Are there any guard regiments that come from Terra? If there are, I'd imagine they would be the best equipped and high tech

IIRC, Terran raised units only go into the Terran PDF.

But rest assured, the Terran PDF is probably better equipped than most elite IG regiments.

Like Spetulhu said, Terran IG have some of the best high-tech equipment in the Imperium. But other than Terra itself I have never saw them somewhere else in action.

Doesnt that in someway,.. make them worse then lets say,.. cadians?? If they are sitting in their defensive positions 24/7 they get no experience... While Cadians are practicly born with guns in hand... Better technology doesnt mean gak in the hands of inexperienced man Sure,. they might have awesome training. But even that doesnt top first hand experience...

By that logic Astartes would own Custodes.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
By that logic Astartes would own Custodes.

They do in every encounter, marines use there experience to know that 1 on 1 the custodes would win, so they dont fight 1 on 1

I know, I was just pointing out

But yes, when it comes to the Guard nobody in the galaxy can top Cadians and Kreigsmen.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
By that logic Astartes would own Custodes.

Well, they totally would.

All Astartes yes, some of them, no.

Actually a Custodes would rape a basic Space Marine 1 on 1, while they don't have the same experience, their training and equipment make up for it. What the Custodes lack is team based tactics. It was explored in The First Heretic.

BlackSanguinor wrote:
Actually a Custodes would rape a basic Space Marine 1 on 1, while they don't have the same experience, their training and equipment make up for it. What the Custodes lack is team based tactics. It was explored in The First Heretic.

The First Heretic is set during Heresy. At that time Custodes still had some actual battlefield experience as their boss was much more mobile. Now they've spent 10 000 years changing the Emperor's nappies, while the Space Marines are veterans of dozens or even hundreds of battles.

 Crimson wrote:

BlackSanguinor wrote:
Actually a Custodes would rape a basic Space Marine 1 on 1, while they don't have the same experience, their training and equipment make up for it. What the Custodes lack is team based tactics. It was explored in The First Heretic.

The First Heretic is set during Heresy. At that time Custodes still had some actual battlefield experience as their boss was much more mobile. Now they've spent 10 000 years changing the Emperor's nappies, while the Space Marines are veterans of dozens or even hundreds of battles.

The experiences of which are regularly downloaded, sent to earth and installed into the Custodes through psycho-indoctrination. simples

im pretty sure the custodes get utilized on some level for off planet missions as well,

the emperor has interests off planet, or the high lords would maybe have something they would rather the custoedes do then the inquisition

either way, grey knights would beat custodes, custodes would beat SM,

easysauce wrote:
grey knights would beat custodes, custodes would beat SM

You do know that Cutodes are not only superior to the Marine but also number 10.000+?

easysauce wrote:
im pretty sure the custodes get utilized on some level for off planet missions as well,

the emperor has interests off planet, or the high lords would maybe have something they would rather the custoedes do then the inquisition

either way, grey knights would beat custodes, custodes would beat SM,

Why would you assume a GK would beat a custodes? We dont really know the exact amount of custodes, while the GK now only have 1000 brothers. The only advantage GK have over marines is their specialized equipment against deamons, while reading the GK novels leads you to believe that not all of them have significant psyker powers.

Seems to me that you'd send Custodes out to active warzones to obtain experience.

 Manchu wrote:
Seems to me that you'd send Custodes out to active warzones to obtain experience.

Except they never leave Terra.

 Crimson wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Seems to me that you'd send Custodes out to active warzones to obtain experience.

Except they never leave Terra.

But are constantly engaging in blood games

and can double as politicians

I believe Terra maintains a PDF to man defense systems and things, but I don't think they raise any major off-world IG regiments.

But, I'm sure if Terra came under attack the entirety of the Imperial Guard (or whats left if the invaders got that far) and Astartes are Terra's PDF

Does it explicitly say anywhere that Terra doesn't raise Guard regiments, at least occasionally? I'd have said they did just like any other planet, as a first guess. It seems strange they'd seem exempt.

I wouldn't have thought they'd be anything particularly special, since the population of Terra consists of primarily scribes and pilgrims, but they'd probably have fancy equipment being from an advanced world. I'd personally imagine them with crusty old ceremonial gear, a huge ecclesiarchy presence, and a great sense of pride and arrogance.

Though it's not like Terra is an Imperial Guard world like Cadia or Catachan, cranking out regiments by the hundreds!

The more I think about it the more I picture that Terra Guard would be like the Swiss Guard. A more ceremonial army that is rich with tradition and history but not battle harden or expected to prevent a mass xeno incursion.

Terra does have a massive advantage in terms of defence compared to other Imperial worlds - it's the homeworld of the Imperial Fists.

Aside from them, and the Custodes, I agree with Panzer1944 - the Imperial Guard/PDF of Terra would most likely be like the Papal Swiss Guard.

 Panzer1944 wrote:
The more I think about it the more I picture that Terra Guard would be like the Swiss Guard. A more ceremonial army that is rich with tradition and history but not battle harden or expected to prevent a mass xeno incursion.

Agreed. IF a full regiment exists, it's likely more for show than power. Although, someone has to guard the areas around the palace when the custodes can't be everywhere at once.

I feel they are an odd mix of Mordians and Cadians. I mean, I'm sure the Imperial Guard has dress uniforms of some sorts

 Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:
Doesnt that in someway,.. make them worse then lets say,.. cadians?? If they are sitting in their defensive positions 24/7 they get no experience... While Cadians are practicly born with guns in hand... Better technology doesnt mean gak in the hands of inexperienced man Sure,. they might have awesome training. But even that doesnt top first hand experience...

By that logic, the Iraqi army should have trashed the coalition in 1991-- since almost all the Iraqis were hardened vets, and the western forces were all unblooded but possesed much better equipment. I remember it going the other way though.

 Silverthorne wrote:

 Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:
Doesnt that in someway,.. make them worse then lets say,.. cadians?? If they are sitting in their defensive positions 24/7 they get no experience... While Cadians are practicly born with guns in hand... Better technology doesnt mean gak in the hands of inexperienced man Sure,. they might have awesome training. But even that doesnt top first hand experience...

By that logic, the Iraqi army should have trashed the coalition in 1991-- since almost all the Iraqis were hardened vets, and the western forces were all unblooded but possesed much better equipment. I remember it going the other way though.

Not to be rude, but that is both inaccurate and very simplistic.

The Iraqi Army was primarily a poorly trained conscript army which was ill-equipped still in the process of being rebuilt after the Iran-Iraq War. They were outclassed in every way, shape, and form.

The Coalition forces were primarily volunteer forces with excellent equipment and fairly hefty training, with a cadre of specialists who had practical experience in asymmetric warfare. The 1991 "Gulf War" as well was primarily an air campaign, with ground forces having a part to play but not as big of one as you might think.

Okay--- that's exactly my point. The fact that the Iraqis had a TON of combat experience fighting over the Shat-al-arab waterway in a bitter attritional war with the Iranians didn't prevent them from getting completely rolled by a force with virtually zero combat experience.

Not to be rude, but I think you missed the comparison entirely...

I always assumed that the Custodes left Terra on secret missions to assist the highest levels of government officials. IE the people directly bellow the Lords of Terra. If the IG is the Army, the Astartes are the most elite Spec Ops, the Custodes I always thought of like the CIA.

The inquisitors are the CIA, the MI5 and all that malarki, the Custodes are Dad's army, only massive, number in the 10,000's and can out fight almost everything in existence...yeah, the comparison ended a while ago

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
I know, I was just pointing out

But yes, when it comes to the Guard nobody in the galaxy can top Cadians and Kreigsmen.

Valhallans (i'd like to see a cadian in his boxer shorts enjoying the breeze, much like a valhallan can), catachans (i hear they were born with two machetes and a stick of dynamite), Armageddon steel legion (these guys like smelling each other methane, that's why other regiments suggested that they wear gass masks- i hear it smelled like 3 day old burrito's), and most of all Mordian Iron Guard- no one can beat a Mordian. trained by the book and super efficient (think if Germany and Korea had a kid, it's be Mordian- tough as boot nails- i do hear that if they break a nail the battle is over)

However i think cadians are tougher imho than Kreigsmen- what with battling ork and chaos on a regular basis.


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 earlofburger wrote:
Are there any guard regiments that come from Terra? If there are, I'd imagine they would be the best equipped and high tech

guesstimate only. i think (i don't actually know, fact is no one does)

i think that the terran guardsmen would look like Elyssian Drop Troops-Mixed with the Inquisitorial look, but more opulent in appearance.

they'd be just as efficient as the Cadians.

in fact a good assumtion/guess would be that the "only regiments on Terra" are originally from offworld meaning there is a high chance actual cadians or catachans or kreigsmen etc would be members or a part of a regiment deployed on Terra Primaris (aka Earth).

those that are originally from Terra most likely work for the Administratum the Highlords of Terra as a secret personal armed force/s or localised PDF militia. (codex imperialis: is a good place to look for archaic Gothique-clad imperial citizens including some which i can only guess are from Terra- pictures are B/W).....