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Is it possible or likely for a chapter to be made from two other chapters? Say Imperial fists didn't have enough geneseed to contribute for the new founding, so another chapter, maybe raven gaurd put up the other needed amount. Is this plausible? Also how does the actual formation of a chapter go about? Where do the new space marines come from and how quickly can a chapter come into existence? Meaning is it only possible to create a chapter every X amount of years?

Space Marine chapter tithe some of their geneseed to the Imperium. The Imperium stores it, checks it for mutation, and then creates new chapters. Creating a chapter requires more then just geneseed, it requires an entire infrastructure be built for the chapter (worlds with stable populations, ships, equipment, support staff, technologically adept support staff, etc.). Could the Imperium create a Chapter from multiple gene seeds? Sure. But why?

The Minotaurs seem to be a chimeric chapter, which is the official term for such a thing.

The Relictors are also supposed to be chimeric; Ultramarines and Dark Angels.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
The Relictors are also supposed to be chimeric; Ultramarines and Dark Angels.

But we don't speak of them. Damn dirty heretics

Different authors have different takes it seems. The Minotaurs are stated to be chimeric (tho if memory serves it doesn't actually explain what that means) which is said to be abhorrent.

The Relictors IA on the other hand stated they are believed to be a mix of Ultramarine and Dark Angel geneseed, and goes on to say that the use of Dark Angel geneseed is HIGHLY unusual.. but interestingly doesn't say anything about the use of mixed geneseed being unusual at all.

Very interesting, so their are other "chimeric" chapters, but what would be the benefit of making such a chapter?

To merge their characteristics- i.e, Raven Guard Stealth and Imperial Fists discipline.

I love this idea. I was thinking of iron hands with maybe some other chapter

Dark Angels are not chimeric. They have one of the purest geneseeds in the Astartes.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Dark Angels are not chimeric. They have one of the purest geneseeds in the Astartes.

It'd be awful hard for a first founding chapter to be chimeric.

From my understanding no one is saying a first founding or even second but a later founding.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Dark Angels are not chimeric. They have one of the purest geneseeds in the Astartes.

Nobody said they were. Despite the quality of their geneseed the High Lords are reluctant to use it because of their distrust of the Dark Angels shadowy nature. That the Relictors IA author felt the inclusion of Dark Angels in the mix was more of note than the fact it was mixed at all implies that mixed geneseed chapters are more common than Dark Angel successors.

 High Emperor Aggron wrote:
Very interesting, so their are other "chimeric" chapters, but what would be the benefit of making such a chapter?

Excellence. Marines are not clones, geneseed evolves over time. Generally its just the negatives that get mentioned - Flesh Tearers and Blood Drinkers for example. But you do get the odd improvement, ie: Soul Drinkers took their name from an over-sensitive Omophagea (which is in fact presumably why they actually use progenoids from marines in the first place, instead of getting all marine implants from test-bed slaves). Allowing the AdMech to mix bloodlines allows them to choose the absolute best organs available. There's also a loyalty factor here - a chapter of mixed bloodline would by default have a fragmented sense of familial loyalty - making them less likely to slavishly follow their progenitors wishes and hopefully more amenable to High Lord authority.

 4oursword wrote:
To merge their characteristics- i.e, Raven Guard Stealth and Imperial Fists discipline.

I doubt those are genetic qualities...

 purplefood wrote:

 4oursword wrote:
To merge their characteristics- i.e, Raven Guard Stealth and Imperial Fists discipline.

I doubt those are genetic qualities...

Nonsense! All I need to do is steal an organ from a person with discipline, and then I'll have discipline.

SerQuintus wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Dark Angels are not chimeric. They have one of the purest geneseeds in the Astartes.

Nobody said they were. Despite the quality of their geneseed the High Lords are reluctant to use it because of their distrust of the Dark Angels shadowy nature. That the Relictors IA author felt the inclusion of Dark Angels in the mix was more of note than the fact it was mixed at all implies that mixed geneseed chapters are more common than Dark Angel successors.

Which is funny if HloT are really using a traitor geneseed...

Might explain the demeanors of the Carcharodons, Minotaurs, and Marines Malevolent...may have a bit of the naughty legions gene goo mixed in there.

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Might explain the demeanors of the Carcharodons, Minotaurs, and Marines Malevolent...may have a bit of the naughty legions gene goo mixed in there.

Heresy I call it.

Its only heresy if the High lords of Terra say so...

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Might explain the demeanors of the Carcharodons, Minotaurs, and Marines Malevolent...may have a bit of the naughty legions gene goo mixed in there.

But try to Imagine remained loyalist combos (from heresy), I mean they can sound more crazy than traitors mixes
Imagine - Vampwolf (imagine wulfen with a black rage), ultra angel (seceretive but not), salaraven (dark as night) or imperial handfist :-)

I actually like the more "unpleasant" chapters a bit more the happy huggy ones, but seriously read the background fluff for the chapter master of the minotaurs....

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Asterion_Moloc#.UcZ_3Z3n_Vg

There is some worldeater gene influence if I ever read it..

He makes Khorne happy.

 LoneLictor wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

 4oursword wrote:
To merge their characteristics- i.e, Raven Guard Stealth and Imperial Fists discipline.

I doubt those are genetic qualities...

Nonsense! All I need to do is steal an organ from a person with discipline, and then I'll have discipline.

If you eat their heart you gain their power...

Well I could see advantages, Imperial Fists lack the ability to Spit Acid don't they?

They could all have a bit of Guilliman inside them, okay it's not Rogal but they are still Space Marines.

Lord Honsou of the Iron Warriors is a an Imperial Fist.

Equally didn't the Iron Warriors raid their Gene-stocks in that Book (cannot remember the name).

Ultramarine Gene-seed is everywhere, Space Wolf and Blood - Angels you just wouldn't want.

I'd mix blood angels & Raven gaurd

 High Emperor Aggron wrote:
I'd mix blood angels & Raven gaurd

Or did you Kain?

 High Emperor Aggron wrote:
Or did you Kain?

Yes, you are obviously referring to the Angel Guard.

 mwnciboo wrote:
Well I could see advantages, Imperial Fists lack the ability to Spit Acid don't they?

They could all have a bit of Guilliman inside them, okay it's not Rogal but they are still Space Marines.

Lord Honsou of the Iron Warriors is a an Imperial Fist.

Equally didn't the Iron Warriors raid their Gene-stocks in that Book (cannot remember the name).

Ultramarine Gene-seed is everywhere, Space Wolf and Blood - Angels you just wouldn't want.

Rain of Iron, and yes, they did. They seiged the fortress on Medusa and, after defeating both the Imperial Fists sent to stop the and Medusa's PDF, they took a load of the IF's gene-seed and shizzle. Good book

 Kain wrote:

 High Emperor Aggron wrote:
Or did you Kain?

Yes, you are obviously referring to the Angel Guard.

Darn. Thought I had gotten away.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 mwnciboo wrote:
Well I could see advantages, Imperial Fists lack the ability to Spit Acid don't they?

They could all have a bit of Guilliman inside them, okay it's not Rogal but they are still Space Marines.

Lord Honsou of the Iron Warriors is a an Imperial Fist.

Equally didn't the Iron Warriors raid their Gene-stocks in that Book (cannot remember the name).

Ultramarine Gene-seed is everywhere, Space Wolf and Blood - Angels you just wouldn't want.

Rain of Iron, and yes, they did. They seiged the fortress on Medusa and, after defeating both the Imperial Fists sent to stop the and Medusa's PDF, they took a load of the IF's gene-seed and shizzle. Good book

Medusa? As in Iron Hands Homeworld?