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If i put all my units into 7 drop pods 4 of them arrive at the begining of my first turn.
In that scenario, if i get to go second, my oponent does not have ant thing to shoot in the first turn. He can just move his units, and that is is?

Incorrect.
You must have at least half of your army fielded on the board.
I'll get back to you on the page number...

EDIT: Got it.
Page 124 in the small rulebook.
Under "Preparing Reserves" at the bottom of the page.

Only half of your units (rounding up) can be in reserve.
Not counting units that MUST start in reserve and units with a dedicated transport count as one unit. (Tactical marines in a drop pod are one unit, for example.)

Units that have to start in reserves though, Drop Pods, Fliers, LotD, Marbo etc do not count towards the number of units that can be held in reserve.

Drop pod assault states, i have to deploy half of my forces at the start of my first turn.

Dont pods remove that requirement?
Anything in a pod doesnt count towards the on-the-table limit.

 Pyriel- wrote:
Dont pods remove that requirement?
Anything in a pod doesnt count towards the on-the-table limit.

No, not to my knowledge.

BRB FAQ: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3440036a_40K_RULEBOOK_v1.5_September_13.pdf

Q: Do units that are transported in a vehicle that MUST start in reserve count towards the number of units that can be placed in Reserves? For example, must I count the units in a Drop Pod or Valkyrie towards the 50% of units I can place in Reserves? (p124)
A: No.

{Edit}Also, since noone seems to be answering the OP, your opponent gets their turn, which they can use to move, cast psychic blessings, run, JSJ in the assault phase and anything else that they want to do. Having no targets will limit their shooting phase obviously, but there are no additional restrictions because you're not there yet.

Isn't there. Rule in sixth now that says if you have no models on the board at anytime now you lose?

Only at the end of a game turn, meaning if the podding player goes second, the pods all come down on his first turn, before the end of said game turn.

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Related FAQ:
Q: Do units that are transported in a vehicle that MUST start in reserve count towards the number of units that can be placed in Reserves? For example, must I count the units in a Drop Pod or Valkyrie towards the 50% of units I can place in Reserves?
(p124)
A: No
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Ninja'ed....

No, the rule if at the end of any GAME TURN a player has no models on the board, that player loses automatically.

Also, a 100% Drop list is still legal.

Any unit that is in a transport that MUST start in reserve, i.e. Flyer transport, Drop Pods, Mycetic Spores etc. DO NOT count towards the number of units that can be placed in reserve.

dang, Ninja'd TWICE!!
I type slow :(

 Pyriel- wrote:
Dont pods remove that requirement?

Yes, they absolutely do. Page 36 (the Deep Strike rule) tells us, "When working out how many units can be placed in reserve, units that must be deployed by Deep Strike (along with any models embarked upon them) are ignored."

If all of your units are embarked upon Drop Pods at the beginning of the game, you have no units for the purpose of calculating reserves.

Ok, and in a drop pod list, any non-drop pod unit must be deployed as normal? Eg. If i want to deploy three Predator. Should 2 of them start on the table, and one of them can start in reserves?or can i put all of them in reserves?

gausus wrote:
Ok, and in a drop pod list, any non-drop pod unit must be deployed as normal? Eg. If i want to deploy three Predator. Should 2 of them start on the table, and one of them can start in reserves?or can i put all of them in reserves?

Drop Pods and the units embarked upon them are ignored when calculating Reserves. According to the Reserves rule (p 124) you can choose not to deploy up to half your units, rounding up.

In this particular case, you would have only three Predators for the purpose of calculating Reserves, so you could put up to two of them in Reserves.

Half rounding up in reserves. So 2 of the Preds can be in reserve with one starting the game on the table and drawing the fire of any and everything that has range and LOS.

Q: Do units that are transported in a vehicle that MUST start in reserve count towards the number of units that can be placed in Reserves? For example, must I count the units in a Drop Pod or Valkyrie towards the 50% of units I can place in Reserves? (p124)
A: No.

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Your HQ units do not have the "Must start in reserves." So, a list with 2 HQ and all other units bought pods, then 1 HQ must start on the board and the other may start in reserves.

The HQs embarked in pods must start in reserves.
So an all drop pod, null deployment list is absolutely fine.

rigeld2 wrote:
The HQs embarked in pods must start in reserves.
So an all drop pod, null deployment list is absolutely fine.

I think the argument can be that HQs don't have dedicated transports, so they are not embarked in a drop pod by default.

I know they have the option to join a Command Squad that can take a drop pod, so that might still cover them that way though.

HQs don't need to have to be in the pods, as long as they've joined the squad in it and are thus transported by a unit that has to deepstrike you're good to go.


Edit: I'm expressing myself horrendously , but I meant that it doesn't matter whether or not the pod is the HQ's dedicated transport.

 d-usa wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
The HQs embarked in pods must start in reserves.
So an all drop pod, null deployment list is absolutely fine.

I think the argument can be that HQs don't have dedicated transports, so they are not embarked in a drop pod by default.

I know they have the option to join a Command Squad that can take a drop pod, so that might still cover them that way though.

The tac squads aren't embarked by default either - you have the option.

rigeld2 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
The HQs embarked in pods must start in reserves.
So an all drop pod, null deployment list is absolutely fine.

I think the argument can be that HQs don't have dedicated transports, so they are not embarked in a drop pod by default.

I know they have the option to join a Command Squad that can take a drop pod, so that might still cover them that way though.

The tac squads aren't embarked by default either - you have the option.

But they can take them as a dedicated transport.

But there is no HQ option that can take them as a dedicated transport.

Don't know if the dedicated transport makes a difference, just throwing it out there.

Q: Do units that are transported in a vehicle that MUST start in reserve count towards the number of units that can be placed in Reserves? For example, must I count the units in a Drop Pod or Valkyrie towards the 50% of units I can place in Reserves? (p124)
A: No.

No mention that it only applies to dedicated transports.

Dedicated Transport has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with it. You can declare the IC joined to a unit in reserve as well - thereby putting them in a pod at which point they are ignored for working out the 50%.

So, to sum up - if your list is in 100% pods you can reserve it all and you won't lose because you'll have pods down by the end of game turn 1. What you can also do - because the reserves limitation is rounded up - is have but a single unit that doesn't HAVE to be held in reserve, and still reserve it anyway.

 d-usa wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
The HQs embarked in pods must start in reserves.
So an all drop pod, null deployment list is absolutely fine.

I think the argument can be that HQs don't have dedicated transports, so they are not embarked in a drop pod by default.

I know they have the option to join a Command Squad that can take a drop pod, so that might still cover them that way though.

The tac squads aren't embarked by default either - you have the option.

But they can take them as a dedicated transport.

But there is no HQ option that can take them as a dedicated transport.

Don't know if the dedicated transport makes a difference, just throwing it out there.

It doesn't make a difference. The only special thing about dedicated transports is that the units that can begin the game embarked on them are limited. (Some SRs confer to dedicated transport, but that's the exception rather than the rule)

 Ond Angel wrote:
Incorrect.
You must have at least half of your army fielded on the board.

Only half of your units (rounding up) can be in reserve.
Not counting units that MUST start in reserve and units with a dedicated transport count as one unit. (Tactical marines in a drop pod are one unit, for example.)

you hit it right on the head their sir. not counting units that MUST start in reserves witch droppods do so this is Correct.
as i do use this alot. even up to as much as 13droppods

where does it say end of game turn, not player turn, for having to have at least one model on the table?

 easysauce wrote:
where does it say end of game turn, not player turn, for having to have at least one model on the table?

In the same sentence where it says that you lose if you have nothing on the table at the end of a turn.

 easysauce wrote:
where does it say end of game turn, not player turn, for having to have at least one model on the table?

If i had the BRB on me i would show you. me and my local GW manager looked it up and it says if no enemy models are on the bored by the end of your opponents game turn you win.
But 1/2 your droppods come in t1 automatically
try looking under alternate ways to win or such i think we found it. under tabling or something.

 easysauce wrote:
where does it say end of game turn, not player turn, for having to have at least one model on the table?

Pg122, paragraph above objectives

 Orkimedezz wrote:

If i had the BRB on me i would show you. me and my local GW manager looked it up and it says if no enemy models are on the bored by the end of your opponents game turn you win..

There is no such thing as an 'opponent's game turn'.

Each player has a player turn. When both player turns are completed, that's the end of the game turn.

You lose if you have nothing on the board at the end of the game turn, not the end of your player turn.