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2013/10/23 21:10:06
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
A new 35mm Board Game from Flying Frog Games launched on Kickstarter last night.
Shadows of Brimstone is a fast-paced, Cooperative, dungeon-crawl boardgame set in the Old West, and mixed with Unspeakable Horror!
Players create characters, taking on the role of a classic Western Hero Archetype, such as the Law Man, Gunslinger, or Saloon Girl. Forming an adventuring posse, the Heroes venture down into the dark mines, overrun with all manner of ancient demons and foul creatures from another world. With tactical gameplay, lots of dice, and a robust card-driven exploration system, no two games are ever the same as the Heroes explore the mines finding new enemies to fight, new Loot to collect, and new dangers to overcome. Players can even find portals to other worlds, stepping through to continue their adventures on the other side!
An exciting campaign system allows the Players to visit local frontier towns between adventures, spending their hard-earned Loot and building their characters from game to game! As players find fantastic Gear and Artifacts to equip their Heroes, they also gain experience from their adventures. This experience is used to level up, guiding the Hero’s path through an expansive, class-specific upgrade tree of new skills and abilities, allowing each player to develop their Hero to fit their own play style.
So load up yer’ six shooter, throw on yer’ hat and poncho, and gather the posse, the darkness is coming, and all hell’s about to break loose... in the Shadows of Brimstone!
Shadows of Brimstone: City of the Ancients Core Set
Contents
Rule Book Adventure Book 16x Six-sided dice 1x Eight-sided die 1x Special Peril Die Full Color Die-cut Counters Over 220 game cards Enemy and Hero Record Sheets Large Adventure Reference Cards CD Soundtrack Map Tiles
8x Unique Room Map Tiles 4x Standard Room Map Tiles 6x Passage Map Tiles 18x Map Tile End Caps 6x Map Tile Gate End Caps Miniatures
Rule Book Adventure Book 16x Six-sided dice 1x Eight-sided die 1x Special Peril Die Full Color Die-cut Counters Over 220 game cards Enemy and Hero Record Sheets Large Adventure Reference Cards CD Soundtrack Map Tiles
8x Unique Room Map Tiles 4x Standard Room Map Tiles 6x Passage Map Tiles 18x Map Tile End Caps 6x Map Tile Gate End Caps Miniatures
1x Law Man Hero 1x Preacher Hero 1x Indian Scout Hero 1x Rancher Hero 12x Hungry Dead 6x Hell Bats 6x Tentacles 3x Slashers 1x Harbinger
Pledge Levels:
Stretch Goals:
Optional Addons:
Note: These are included in the Mine Cart level pledges.
Paid Addons
Note: These are duplicate items so not included in the Mine Cart pledge level.
Full info can be found on the Kickstarter page.
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2013/10/23 21:51:55
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
Fortune and Glory is one of my wife's (and my) favorite board games ever, which brought me here. Comparisons to Warhammer Quest make me want to throw all the money at this Kickstarter. :-p
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted)
2013/10/23 23:00:23
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
So, the all-inclusive Mine Cart level went from $325 to $475?! If I wanted in now, I have to pay $150 more than the "Early Birds"? And it will go up from there? feth that.
I can understand putting up a discounted Early Bird style level and limiting that, but stretching out the amount that much seems pretty gakky. Maybe it's just me though, I dunno.
I'll check and see if I can snag an early $325-$375 level pledge because the game looks like something I would love. If I can't though, not likely to pledge.
~Eric
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cincydooley wrote: I can't help think how much it looks like Malifaux the Adventure Game.
Deadlands did it first. Or at least before Malifaux.
Looks interesting. I have Last Night on Earth and its a fun quasi tactical game for when the group doesnt feel like something more in depth (Arkham Horror or whatever).
The figures look a little more detailed than LNOE guys. Would be nice to see them painted just to tell.
2013/10/24 02:41:25
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
It looks interesting, but I can't help but think that the basic boxed game pledge isn't really much of a deal. It's a regular board game, so upon release all the normal outlets should have it for around $55-60 if the usual discount applies.
2013/10/24 04:56:01
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
No, it's just Descent set in the wild west. I know my brother is backing it, so I don't need to get in on this one. Plus the setting doesn't interest me all that much. What does interest me though is that I will get to play as an old prospector! Awesome. One thing I'd like to see them do though is post some closeups of the figures and concept art. I can't tell what anything that comes in the base game looks like.
cincydooley wrote: I can't help think how much it looks like Malifaux the Adventure Game.
I don't really think it's similar to malifaux, the ambiance is a lot darker and chtulu like. It look really good imo, but I'll probably wait for it to comes out. I'm sick and tired of Kickstarter, since I have yet to receive anythng form the 4 I backed (WWE, Mutant chronicle, Kingdome death and relic knights)
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
2013/10/24 08:05:29
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
First post has now been updated with the new Stretch Goal (Male Saloon Girl) and Addons (New Otherworld with 6 new enemies and a futher 3 heavy enemy addon pack)
Barzam wrote: No, it's just Descent set in the wild west. I know my brother is backing it, so I don't need to get in on this one. Plus the setting doesn't interest me all that much. What does interest me though is that I will get to play as an old prospector! Awesome. One thing I'd like to see them do though is post some closeups of the figures and concept art. I can't tell what anything that comes in the base game looks like.
I would say it compares more to Warhammer Quest then Descent given that it's a purely co-operative game and doesn't require a player to play the dungeon (plus the Campaign System is ringing a lot of Warhammer Quest bells with me although it is a long time since I played it).
2013/10/24 08:18:46
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
Wow, the comments section on that KS is almost overwhelmingly negative. I can understand their point, those continuous $25 hikes for the Mine Cart level are a bit steep.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2013/10/24 08:37:00
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
Initial post updated with 2 new stretch goals (Blood Money encounter deck and 3 large Lava Men enemies).
Riquende wrote: Wow, the comments section on that KS is almost overwhelmingly negative. I can understand their point, those continuous $25 hikes for the Mine Cart level are a bit steep.
It's mostly just 10 people posting the same thing over and over again who are disrupting any talk about the game. FFP admit that they made a mistake with the pledge levels, they had planned the Outlaw pledge level to be the sweet spot and were not expecting everyone to go for the Mine Cart instead being the completionists that most of us are. The Mine Cart pledge level was intended to be a limited pledge level rather then an Early Bird level, they are looking at ways to resolve the situation but will take time (they are also looking at ways to distribute from within the EU for European backers).
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2013/10/24 09:38:23
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
Aeneades wrote: It's mostly just 10 people posting the same thing over and over again who are disrupting any talk about the game. FFP admit that they made a mistake with the pledge...
Not the impression I get from the page, where the whole comment section is consumed by discussion on the issue, certainly more than 10 people. Scrolling down a bit I can only see one comment asking about post-KS releases, nothing about the game itself. It's hard to disrupt something that's not there! Also there seems to be a lot of consternation at the lack of any communication from the creators, so if they've been admitting anything then maybe that message isn't getting out there.
Ultimately I don't care too much as this isn't the sort of project I'm interested in, but there's a real negative vibe about the campaign that might be offputing to potential backers.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2013/10/24 10:48:22
Subject: Re:Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
I like the look of the 4th Other World they have just added as an Addon. After the 3 fantasy / Cthulhu inspired worlds there is an Alien Industrial Age city ware zone world.
2013/10/24 13:03:41
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
cincydooley wrote: I can't help think how much it looks like Malifaux the Adventure Game.
I don't really think it's similar to malifaux, the ambiance is a lot darker and chtulu like. It look really good imo, but I'll probably wait for it to comes out. I'm sick and tired of Kickstarter, since I have yet to receive anythng form the 4 I backed (WWE, Mutant chronicle, Kingdome death and relic knights)
The boat with all of our Wild West Exodus gloriousness has landed in San Diego and is awaiting customs. Hopefully it's on the short end of that customs timeline!
2013/10/24 14:27:21
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
I don't have a dog in the fight, but there's definitely a lot of negative talk over on Boardgamegeek as well. People seem upset at the way the mine cart tiers were structured. As someone who isn't pledging, I can see their point...the feeling that you missed out on the sweet spot and now are getting the exact same thing as everyone else for $150+ more is lousy, and might prevent some pledges.
Jonathan
2013/10/24 15:27:21
Subject: Re:Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
I got in pretty early. Not the early spot, but still before it went over 400.
I didn't do anything special. I knew it would start soon, and just kept checking back every half hour or so. It wasn't like I camped the computer. I didn't even know it was going to be that good of deal.
They did say they would open a few more early levels, and let everyone know ahead of time. They also said they'd be discussing what they could do to placate the ravenous hordes demanding compensation.
Hopefully all parties involved will come out happy in the end.
I just want all my new toys.
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
If you just grab a Deluxe Outlaw ($225) and all of the add ons ($235), the total comes to around $460, $485 if shipping outside the US.
The current Mine Cart Tier (7) costs $475 + $40 S&H, for a total of $515 if international.
... so if you live in the US *and* plan to get ALL of the add ons, you save $15.
If you live outside the US, it seems to be cheaper to just buy the add ons individually.
My crew and I love us some Flying Frog games, so I'm very, very tempted to buy in on this, but would probably just go Outlaw and some add ons. The second set of hero/monster figures would be nice, but I don't think I can justify spending $75 on them.
2013/10/24 15:57:01
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
They are adding now addons all the time. They have added 5 now I believe since the project launched. Whilst it may be cheaper to get all the bits individually now, it won't be very soon.
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cincydooley wrote: Have they said what the exclusive bits and bobs associated with this project are? Is it just the one character class?
At the moment it is just the one character class but some items will only be available directly from the FFP store post launch.
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2013/10/24 16:01:14
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
cincydooley wrote: So it's just that. Am I able to get in on that by itself?
Yeah, on further thought, it would indeed probably be cheaper to just buy the two game boxes and add ons at retail. The Mine Cart tiers would've been an AMAZING deal early on, with hindsight at least, but right now it's basically just at par, and will take some seriously massive unlocks to really go towards actual savings.
I'm not seeing a way to just get the outlaw figure itself, but if that were an option I'd probably snag it alone. Maybe an add on or something.
2013/10/24 18:28:26
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
jmw23 wrote: I don't have a dog in the fight, but there's definitely a lot of negative talk over on Boardgamegeek as well. People seem upset at the way the mine cart tiers were structured. As someone who isn't pledging, I can see their point...the feeling that you missed out on the sweet spot and now are getting the exact same thing as everyone else for $150+ more is lousy, and might prevent some pledges.
It is currently preventing me from pledging!
2013/10/24 19:01:06
Subject: Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
I've gotta say, comparing this KS to Myth, which was an eerily similar game concept... the pricing on this one is kinda bat-gak crazy.
I love FFP, and their production values are usually amazing, but my God. At $325 the "All In" level was a great deal for folks... at anything from $375 - 400 its "ok" as deals go, and knowing what other small companies have offered at their price levels, a $400 "unlimited slot" Minecart would have been acceptable. But my God.... anything above that, even if they add a reasonable amount to the add-ons, is still priced above online shop discounted prices.
I've never been one to not go all in on something I believe in, and at $350 they would've had me... As it stands, Coolstuffinc, etc... will get that amount of money post launch, and i'll probably still end up with "everything".
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted)
2013/10/24 19:39:42
Subject: Re:Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS
I think it still might end up a better deal at 475 than online retailers, but a lot of that will depend on just how much stuff ends up crammed into the box or tacked on as extra purchases.
Last night they had just added another 50 bucks or so worth of add ons. That's still just the second day. Even if they slow the pace of putting new add ons up, you could end up with a lot there for a (somewhat) reasonable price.
Now if they add exclusives to the mix, I wonder how that will affect things?
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted) 
