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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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I was kinda doubtful when I started watching TB's video, but when I heard him deploy the MCV and heard the "building" in the game's male EVA voice... a wave of nostalgia hit me.
I adored Red Alert. I think I'll be downloading this.
The videos made my heart warm up again. Loved the series until Generals where imo it dived.
RA2 was the best of the series, but I still fondly love the origional command and conquer for what it gave us at the time. Still remember sitting on christmas playing the GDI missions so full of amazement and when i finally got my first medium tank production. then the mamoth tanks just made everything even cooler.
Great series and I really wish it would come back keeping the old roots.
It's interesting that the two newest games,being RA3 and C&C4 are also the worst games in the series compared to lets say Yuri's revenge which i like a lot due to its atmosphere and well sense of humor in some ways.
Tiberian sun along with fire storm are also great games in my opinion.
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SneakyMek wrote: It's interesting that the two newest games,being RA3 and C&C4 are also the worst games in the series compared to lets say Yuri's revenge which i like a lot due to its atmosphere and well sense of humor in some ways.
Tiberian sun along with fire storm are also great games in my opinion.
I'm not so sure about that. I found that Tiberian Sun was the worst game of the series.
Yeah, I can see people loading their guns ready to execute me for saying that. But try as I might I never could get myself to like that game. Firestorm didn't really improve it at all. Frankly, they're the worst games of the series. CnC4 wasn't bad, just different. Not to my tastes necessarily, but I didn't hate it like I hated Tiberium Sun and Firestorm; RA3 meanwhile was pretty fun.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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SneakyMek wrote:It's interesting that the two newest games,being RA3 and C&C4 are also the worst games in the series compared to lets say Yuri's revenge which i like a lot due to its atmosphere and well sense of humor in some ways.
Tiberian sun along with fire storm are also great games in my opinion.
Agreed those where very good games indeed.
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SneakyMek wrote: It's interesting that the two newest games,being RA3 and C&C4 are also the worst games in the series compared to lets say Yuri's revenge which i like a lot due to its atmosphere and well sense of humor in some ways.
Tiberian sun along with fire storm are also great games in my opinion.
I'm not so sure about that. I found that Tiberian Sun was the worst game of the series.
Yeah, I can see people loading their guns ready to execute me for saying that. But try as I might I never could get myself to like that game. Firestorm didn't really improve it at all. Frankly, they're the worst games of the series. CnC4 wasn't bad, just different. Not to my tastes necessarily, but I didn't hate it like I hated Tiberium Sun and Firestorm; RA3 meanwhile was pretty fun.
That would be a tad harsh, but I get what you mean, But RA3 was a really bad game if you ask me same goes for CnC 4 witch was outrigth broken and in dire need of a major rehaul
RA3 was an awesome and fun game, with a wide variety of playstyles available and a good set of memorable factions and characters. Much more awesome and vastly more fun than that piece of garbage that was Tiberium Sun. Hell, I'd even say that CnC4 is better than Tiberium Sun. At least I had a LITTLE fun playing CnC4...
CnC3:Kane's Wrath was probably the best game of the Tiberium series, mind you. Though certainly, I loved RA2 before the Yuri idiocy... but the Yuri idiocy made me long for RA1.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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So you dislike RA 2 due to Yuri, but like Ra3 where Yuriko is nothing more than a female version of Yuri to the Japanese in the same way as Yuri was for the soviets and indeed his own faction in the expansion?..and yes i know about RA3 uprising as well that happens to focus on Yuriko.
I'm not saying that you aren't allowed to have your opinion or anything, in fact i'm more curious to know what you based your opinion on in terms of Yuri's revenge vs Ra3/Uprising.
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Melissia wrote: RA3 was an awesome and fun game, with a wide variety of playstyles available and a good set of memorable factions and characters. Much more awesome and vastly more fun than that piece of garbage that was Tiberium Sun. Hell, I'd even say that CnC4 is better than Tiberium Sun. At least I had a LITTLE fun playing CnC4...
CnC3:Kane's Wrath was probably the best game of the Tiberium series, mind you. Though certainly, I loved RA2 before the Yuri idiocy... but the Yuri idiocy made me long for RA1.
Really? So you like broken game mechanics, a utterly foolish idea for base management and such(For CnC4 that is). Yes Kanes Wrath where good but I still prefer regular CnC3 to Kanes Wrath
SneakyMek wrote: i know about RA3 uprising as well that happens to focus on Yuriko.
What makes you think I like Uprising? I never even mentioned it.
Trondheim wrote: So you like broken game mechanics, a utterly foolish idea for base management and such(For CnC4 that is).
Reading comprehension is your friend.
Me saying "I didn't hate it" is not the same as me particularly liking it or saying it was any good. It's only good relative to something far worse than it, IE Tiberium Sun, which is by far the least fun game in the series
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They all had their thing but yes RA2 just took it that extra bit.
Yuri was just that extra bit of too much cheese and silliness that I had trouble getting into it.
Loved that game Total Annihilation way back when with a ton of units, it got to be a bit too much at some point.
Original Dune and Dune 2000 I liked the different factions and the slight differences in play.
I will DL this for sure, especially to see what the UI does.
I hated the old cheat of just give them more money or a 4-5 set build pattern not based on any reaction to the player.
I was getting worried I would lean on tower defense type games for my strategy thing or lean on the old standard of Company of Heroes or the original Dawn of War.
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SneakyMek wrote: i know about RA3 uprising as well that happens to focus on Yuriko.
What makes you think I like Uprising? I never even mentioned it.
Trondheim wrote: So you like broken game mechanics, a utterly foolish idea for base management and such(For CnC4 that is).
Reading comprehension is your friend.
Me saying "I didn't hate it" is not the same as me particularly liking it or saying it was any good. It's only good relative to something far worse than it, IE Tiberium Sun, which is by far the least fun game in the series
You know, have you ever been told that you have a odd sense of humor, I suppose you enjoy tormenting yourself too?
I seem to remember this being in the works when i used to play. Looks alright for sure, the ability to select all of the same unit doesn't appear to be there, but it could be as he didn't cover it much.
I wanted to go back to playing RA2 but decided cba as i have an addiction for Halo and several friends who play it. Having a voice connection would be great with C&C as i know people use Skype now over the game. The community is pretty small/ slow/ dieing but it's definitely holding out. I never used to do tournaments but enjoyed the ranked QMs on Red Alert 2 as i got heavily into it and returned a few times to pay through the years.
For those interested, don't buy the downloadable version of the Ultimate Collection or whatever it's called, get The First Decade and patch it. There are patches so it works on Windows 7, not sure about 8 as haven't looked. Xwis.net / Striketeam.net are supported by EA to run the servers for the old games. There's still a decent amount of people playing RA2 but as for RA1 and C&C Tib Dawn/ Tib Sun you will have to check for yourself, but it will be less.
You can also play RA2 online for free without the game too. Xwis has a freeware version which has no music also and no campaign. It's fully Windows 7 compatible as well.
It's great people work on this stuff for years. Duke Nukem high res pack is another community project that i used to follow but became less interested with Halo 2 being online. You can also play that online too btw. Anyhow, Frank Klepacki is the man, i bought all his Westwood C&C game music and his 5 rock albums. Really really good if you like his stuff. Evil Entrance, Brain Dead, there's loads. i actually used a couple of his tracks for some bike edits i did. Although i don't have them as they weren't released and not on his site last time i checked he did remixes of Hell March, Grinder and several others which were great too.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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Having played ALL the Command and Conquers (Except Kane's Wrath which I simply havnt had a chance to grab yet and the expansion for RA3 which I REFUSE to grab)
I have to say I consider RA and RA2 two of my favorite games of all time.
Glad to hear they are working on this but the fact that its not the full pledge campaign makes me just move on (thankfully I still have the disc for the games so I can play them whenever)
Im surprised you hate Tiberium Sun so much but I do agree it was one of the weakest game in the series (I consider C&C 4 to be the weakest by a landslide but I dont hate that game, I just am disappointed in it.)
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Yeah, I didn't like Tiberium Sun that much either. It wasn't terrible, I just found it...dull. I did like the mutated environment though; I thought that was an interesting feature, and I was disappointed EA didn't incorporate that in future titles when they took control.
It's still not as boring as CnC4. I swear EA was trying to mimic DoW2. I found the gameplay to be similar to that, but slower paced. Because when I think CnC, I think slow paced RTS gameplay with a limited number of soldiers and no base building.
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge are certainly my personal all-time faves. Awesome units like Boris, the Siege Chopper and the giant squids, I mean, giant squids, come on!
Tiberian Sun has its moments but really, everything in it is soooooo fething slow, especially on the bigger maps.
Porn Alert 3 has a few funny moments, but it's trying to bank a little too hard on the actors imho, except for JK Simmons and the Hoff, those two fething nailed it.
I liked Tiberium Sun because I really didn't have much else to compare it to at the time other than RA1. I think it plays better than the original CC and the unit variety is certainly more interesting. I somewhat believe that Tiberium Sun was more about base building than armies, because no other game had such an extensive list of defenses for both sides, and many of these pioneered how the bases of RA2 functioned (which effectively struck the balance between the two). I actually still have it someplace. Also, Tiberium Sun has got to be one of the darkest RTS's I've ever played. It's markedly darker than even the majority of the DOW series and its only a T game. Seriously, have you even heard the death screams of the units? I played the game when I was 13 and it really desensitized me to visceral death for quite some time. That said though; RA 2 was AMAZING. Yuri was fun, but it just wasn't as good as the original, and RA3 actually was incredibly entertaining. I honestly think that RA3 is better than Yuri's Revenge because each race had its strengths and weaknesses but wasn't slotted to be only good at one thing like Yuri's revenge was. I may not be a fan of EA, but as far as games go, I will award my fandom to RA3 for at least being a hell of a lot of fun - even in multiplayer.
Unfortunately, Uprising wasn't as fun as Yuri's revenge. I loved the Allied Artillery (Pacifiers), but the goo spraying Desolators just plain sucked. I really wished they brought back the original Desolators, Terrorists, and Demotrucks that actually ravaged the earth and sowed fear at the sight of them. And Steel Oni? Common... of all the awesome nanotechnology they had at their imagination, they went with another mechasuit they really didn't need in the first place.
Oh well, maybe they'll make a RA4. Apart from the general hate EA deservedly gets, it's undeniable that the fans will always love the franchise, even if they have to make the games themselves.
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DemetriDominov wrote: no other game had such an extensive list of defenses for both sides
Total Annihilation had far better base building mechanics.
SupCom after it was even better.
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-- Adam Serwer
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Loved RA2 and Yuri's Revenge, the perfect blend of excellent gameplay and that wonderful weird war humour.
Half the appeal of the series is in the little cutscenes and RA 2 had it absolutely perfect, the game is just absorbing, you really get into each and every mission and there was just way too much awesome to play around with. The mind-control element was a fun mechanic too.
One of the few games I've bothered to complete multiple times, and on Hard mode. I'd do it all again too and enjoy it just as much.
The original C&C had a lot of the same charm to it as well. And who can forget the Giant Ant missions of Red Alert? I recall being super-happy to discover that the seemingly infinite-spawning ants nests did infact have a spawn limit. And all it took to discover this was about 40 camo pillboxes surrounding them and several hours. Agreed on the slow pace though
The atmosphere of Tiberian Sun + Firestorm was good. I loved the transformed-world landscape with tiberium flora and fauna, the absolutely demented level in Firestorm where you infiltrated a tiberium-worshipping cult in the middle of a red zone was my favourite.
C&C 3 + expansions, while technically good, felt like they'd just lost the charm, as if they were by-the-books. RA 3 felt like a desperate attempt to try and bring it back, but just fell flat on its face instead, I can't even remember any of the cutscenes, and the missions just felt so slow and casual-player easy.
C&C4 - Interesting, just for the cutscenes. And nothing else. Gameplay just a confused mess where I never really felt in control, just constantly moving from one computer-determined point to another, with units just doing their own thing.
I'd love something new and good to come out of the IP, but for the most part, it really did die with Westwood.
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Tiberian sun I felt was one of the more interesting games of the series. The forgotten, the tiberian flora and fauna. (where were the fiends and Vein hole monsters in 3?) You even had train lines, subway systems and a decent tunneling mechanic. (Having to put down sensor trucks to detect units).
DemetriDominov wrote: Sorry I wasn't specific enough. I never played those games so the context I meant was in the CC series.
Eh, in the CnC series, CnC3:Kane's Wrath has the best base building mechanics IMO.
Probably the best gameplay period of the series thus far.
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