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Does anyone know if a Dark Angel successor chapter has gone rogue? I can not recall of any instances, but can with the other legions. Which leads me to believe, are the Dark Angels the most loyal chapter? How ironic!

I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

Very Loyal to the Emperor. No doubt.

Towards imperial authorities who aren't the God-Emprah himself however....

BTW, gone rouge and gone rogue is something you may want to look up.

I think they're just as loyal as anyone else. The reason there are no recorded renegades is probably more along the lines that any successor who does rebel is wiped from existence by a series of accidents.

 1hadhq wrote:
Very Loyal to the Emperor. No doubt.

Towards imperial authorities who aren't the God-Emprah himself however....

BTW, gone rouge and gone rogue is something you may want to look up.

Fixed, spanks!

BA are loyal too, as long they are sane

 Pada wrote:
BA are loyal too, as long they are sane

BA ARE the most loyal. Except for maybe Dorns Fists.
I wonder how Dorn and Sangy got along? A elbow in the ribs and called a miserable ol bastard probably

They came from across the galaxy to stand at Terra. Apart from the scars, where was everyone else?

The DA were warp capable, thanks to mysterious alien stuff. The lion also handed the iron warriors a few siege engines.
DA waited around while the wolves tried to (liberate) get a bit of a empire together for themselves. Unless they were trying another lesson.
Half their legion turned traitor (which half is up for interpretation)

Theyre the dodgiest legion out there. Wanting the crown because theyre the oldest.
Im a catholic and they sound like a priest, step into the inner circle my son

The Dark Angels were fighting and chasing the Night Lords, even going as far as to..



And those siege engines were specifically given to fight the traitors, after killing lots of Sons of Horus.

The HH books pretty much made an end to all those rumors.

Nope, nothing to see here.

 Pada wrote:
BA are loyal too, as long they are sane

So are the Space Sharks, but they probably killed more Star Phantoms during the Badab War than the traitors did.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
The Dark Angels were fighting and chasing the Night Lords, even going as far as to..

Spoiler:

trap Kurze on their flagship

And those siege engines were specifically given to fight the traitors, after killing lots of Sons of Horus.

The HH books pretty much made an end to all those rumors.

Not really, Thorpe shouldnt be writing anything.

Yes gave it to them, after talking to who, no i mean what. Scratched his chin and went hmmm
but with the latest fluff

How did his ships get through the warp? Magical mysterious jelly beans.
Hes really easy to threaten, that was made clear. On the way to Terra Russ had him by the balls for something

Dunno about you but if my younger bro grabbed me by the throat. A knuckle or 16 he gets. At least Dorn had a gun at his head.

the ancient wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
The Dark Angels were fighting and chasing the Night Lords, even going as far as to..

Spoiler:

trap Kurze on their flagship

And those siege engines were specifically given to fight the traitors, after killing lots of Sons of Horus.

The HH books pretty much made an end to all those rumors.

Not really, Thorpe shouldnt be writing anything.

Yes gave it to them, after talking to who, no i mean what. Scratched his chin and went hmmm
but with the latest fluff

Spoiler:

seems like cyphers still chatting with DA command

How did his ships get through the warp? Magical mysterious jelly beans.
Hes really easy to threaten, that was made clear. On the way to Terra Russ had him by the balls for something

Dunno about you but if my younger bro grabbed me by the throat. A knuckle or 16 he gets. At least Dorn had a gun at his head.

So it's not 'real' because you don't like the writer? Alright..
And by all rights, the Iron Warriors seemingly appeared to be loyal. They would actually be, if it weren't for Olympia.

Following the traces of Night Lords ships, perhaps. And

As for the latest fluff, you'd know that

He's been threatened before. He didn't give in then. Surely, he saw sense in what Russ was saying.

'cause you know, not everyone solves violence by violence.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

Not really, Thorpe shouldnt be writing anything.

How did his ships get through the warp? Magical mysterious jelly beans.
Hes really easy to threaten, that was made clear. On the way to Terra Russ had him by the balls for something

Dunno about you but if my younger bro grabbed me by the throat. A knuckle or 16 he gets. At least Dorn had a gun at his head.

Younger brother grabs him by the balls? Where?

Oh and as for loyalty how about saving the precious wolves from the butt kicking given to them by the alpha legion?

‘Probably longer,’ said Russ. ‘The delay chafes, but if Caliban’s angels hadn’t arrived when they did, there wouldn’t be a fleet left to rebuild at all. We fill our time though. We train, we fight and prepare for what’s ahead.’

And that's not from GT it's Graham McNeill

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

Even before and during the Heresy - they were not exactly trusted - they and their Primarch have always seemed to have something to hide - good bit in Unremembered Empire about this

As Jinx Magiga says, they care more about their secret than their duty to the Imperium. They are loyal, but they have killed allies for the sake of preserving their secret or abandoned them to go off hunting down another lead on a Fallen.

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

There are multiple instances where this does happen, many more than there should be.

 Insane Smile wrote:

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

There are multiple instances where this does happen, many more than there should be.

Name me multiple instances where DA kill companies of marines, then.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Insane Smile wrote:

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

There are multiple instances where this does happen, many more than there should be.

Name me multiple instances where DA kill companies of marines, then.

Tsagualsa

 ChazSexington wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Insane Smile wrote:

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

There are multiple instances where this does happen, many more than there should be.

Name me multiple instances where DA kill companies of marines, then.

Tsagualsa

Loyalist marines.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Insane Smile wrote:

 Jinx Magiga wrote:
I don't think you can call any Dark Angel 'loyal'.
if a company of marines were to find out about the fallen,the Dark angels and their successors wouldn't hesistate to kill em.
They care more about their secret than about the imperium

There are multiple instances where this does happen, many more than there should be.

Name me multiple instances where DA kill companies of marines, then.

Tsagualsa

Loyalist marines.

Isn't there one where the Black Templars are investigating some heretic ruler, get warned off by a DA fleet and then that Crusade and its Strike Cruiser disappears? Current or last SM codex?

Slight hi-jack, does anyone know of any chaos space marines who came from dark angels gene seed, who are still running around in numbers today?

Well there, in theory, are Fallen who joined the forces of chaos.
But I've never heard anywhere of post-caliban heretic Unforgiven Chapters.
Single marines/squads may get turned, as it happens to everyone, but in the official fluff there is no reference for renegade/traitor DA's post Horus Heresy.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Isn't there one where the Black Templars are investigating some heretic ruler, get warned off by a DA fleet and then that Crusade and its Strike Cruiser disappears? Current or last SM codex?

That's the Crusade of the Ophidium Gulf, so last codex. Where a BT crusade of 90 warriors went puff after meeting a group of ABSOLUTELY FRIENDLY AND UTTERLY LOYAL DARK ANGELS AND WAS CHARMED BY THEIR UNMATCHED RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT THEY HANDED OVER A TRAITOR SPACE MARINE THAT'S COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE HEIRS OF THE FIRST LEGION.

Jokes aside tho, it is only implied that the da had something to do with this, this likely will not convince anyone.

Now if you could kindly stop spreading lies about *censored* so we could stop the *censored* from reaching the general public.. it may reflect back on *censored*and we cannot have that.
If you would kindly follow me into the back room right here for some.. erh... cupcakes?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crusade_of_the_Ophidium_Gulf#.U_H6TmM5Tp4

Well its HEAVILY implied. Considering the DA's feared the prisoner had spilled his beans... On the other hand, those pesky BT's shouldn't have been that stubborn
Killing near a company of marines seems a bit on the extreme side though.

Lysit wrote:
Slight hi-jack, does anyone know of any chaos space marines who came from dark angels gene seed, who are still running around in numbers today?

Not heard of any bar the Fallen.

Edit: Found a DA Successor Chapter SM who turned to Chaos; Corpulax used to be Consecrators but later joined the Red Corsairs. The Relictors are a mix of Ultramarine and DA geneseed and have been declared Excommunicate Traitoris.

 Thairne wrote:
Now if you could kindly stop spreading lies about *censored* so we could stop the *censored* from reaching the general public.. it may reflect back on *censored*and we cannot have that.
If you would kindly follow me into the back room right here for some.. erh... cupcakes?.

Oh come on, everyone knows the Dark Angels don't share cupcakes. Their backrooms are occupied with "other activities".
As for them being the most loyal, of course n... THEY ARE! THEY ARE THE EMPERORS MOST FAVOURED AND COMPLETELY LOYAL WARRIORS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NEVER FALLEN TO CHAOS DURING THE HORUS HERESY!
AND NEITHER IS THE INCORRUPTABLE FIRST LEGION IN ANY SORT OF CLOSET! :p

Do we even know who Cypher is, or that was the same Cypher that appeared in Fallen Angels?

EDIT

And to my knowledge no Dark Angels chapter has fallen to Chaos, probably because they so zealously hunt the Fallen. Also note as well that the Dark Angels that turned traitor during the Horus Heresy don't really count besides Astelan's dudes, because everybody else was calibanite and either a friend of Luther during the days of the Order, or they were recruited while Luther had been exiled to Caliban.

I doubt that any Dark Angels successors would turn traitor. The only time I could see it happening is if the chapter in question were unaware of their gene seed heritage. Due to the DA acting as a legion, they would all keep each other pretty heavily scrutinised.

As to them being the most loyal, possibly. Certainly they serve the Imperium, but some of their actions are rather... dubious.

Dark Angels are loyal only to their cause.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Thairne wrote:
Now if you could kindly stop spreading lies about *censored* so we could stop the *censored* from reaching the general public.. it may reflect back on *censored*and we cannot have that.
If you would kindly follow me into the back room right here for some.. erh... cupcakes?.

Oh come on, everyone knows the Dark Angels don't share cupcakes. Their backrooms are occupied with "other activities".
As for them being the most loyal, of course n... THEY ARE! THEY ARE THE EMPERORS MOST FAVOURED AND COMPLETELY LOYAL WARRIORS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NEVER FALLEN TO CHAOS DURING THE HORUS HERESY!
AND NEITHER IS THE INCORRUPTABLE FIRST LEGION IN ANY SORT OF CLOSET! :p

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO TOAD!
*clap*
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*clap*

On a more serious note - it kind of depends on the definition of loyalty. The very thing that makes them illoyal in some people's minds make them furiously loyal in other aspects. No DA Chapter ever would turn traitor... because they so feverently hunt the Fallen to remove the stain on their loyalty. It would mean they become what they are most indoctrinated to hate. So yes, they ARE the most loyal chapter in terms of Chaos Influence. But, because grimdark, Grey Knights bath in the blood of Sisters and Dark Angels leave Guard regiments as Tyranid food because some black dude was sighted half a galaxy away. But just this ambiguity makes the Leg.. Chapters so interesting and less onesided like.. well... any other chapter. There always are secrets upon secrets upon secrets. Compared to "good" Chapters (Ultramarines, Salamanders and even SW's) which sometimes appear bland (or ridiculous) to chapters with more of a dark side (Blood Angels which I find to be a bit too ham fisted) to outright close-to-hostile ones (Marines Malevolent and consorts) I find the DA's to have the right mix that intrigues me. And you can twist some things to your liking (Luther, the Lion, Cypher) so you have exactly the chapter you like in your head while still adhearing to the fluff.