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I know this has been discussed before but I could not find it in the archives so please bear with me.  Are any of the primarchs still alive in the current 40K setting? 

Thanks in advance.

Mostly it's the chaos ones that are still alive (as Daemon Princes).

The wikipedia entry for them looks legit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primarch

Basically, the loyalists are looking at maybe 5 (Vulkan, Leman Russ, Corax, Lion El'Jonson, and Jagatai Khan) that are still alive.

Meanwhile the Chaos forces have 6 that are known to still be alive (Magnus, Angron, Lorgar, Mortarion, Fulgrim, and Perturabo), with Alpharius being a possibly 7th given the battle report where he supposedly dies is suspect.

Supposedly, there's signs of Roboute Guilliman coming back, healing inside the stasis pod.  That's supposed to be impossible, but he IS a Primarch; impossible was what they did.

Why is Guilliman in stasis? Who could have injured him so badly, is there a story on this?

he was poisened by a Slannesh-Champion-Demon-Sword...-Thingy. and the Poison was SO bad that Stasis was the only way.
the Traitor Legion Primarchs are sitting on their Demonworlds. and the loyal ones who are still alive are just gone. Leman Russ left, saying he would return in a time of crisis, the Ravenguard Chief left with the words "nevermore" and Lion El'Johnson was taken away by those funny little nightwatch guys, like the one who's carrying Azraels Helmet. don't know too much about the other ones, but I think Rogal Dorn is dead. and, of course Sanguinius is dead.

and altough I don't play Space Marines, I would love to see those guys return. for the fluff and the rules

Guilliman wasn't poisoned by a "Slannesh-Champion-Demon-Sword...-Thingy" ... His throat was slit by Fulgrim, the primarch of the Emperor's Children, with a poisoned blade.

There's a big diffrence in slaanesh champion and a primarch

I doubt even A primach coudl surivive for 10k years in the webway.

so Jaghati khan bein still alive is doubtful/or if he is still there.

Rogal dorn is proper dead I can't see anyway out of it....

Curze Is my favorite Primach apart from some of emoness..

Alpharius is also dead I think it was from the Alpha Legion Index astartes.

Posted By Anung Un Rama on 05/07/2006 4:16 AM
he was poisened by a Slannesh-Champion-Demon-Sword...-Thingy. and the Poison was SO bad that Stasis was the only way.
the Traitor Legion Primarchs are sitting on their Demonworlds. and the loyal ones who are still alive are just gone. Leman Russ left, saying he would return in a time of crisis, the Ravenguard Chief left with the words "nevermore" and Lion El'Johnson was taken away by those funny little nightwatch guys, like the one who's carrying Azraels Helmet. don't know too much about the other ones, but I think Rogal Dorn is dead. and, of course Sanguinius is dead.

and altough I don't play Space Marines, I would love to see those guys return. for the fluff and the rules

For an idea on Primarchs in the game, try and get your hands on a copy of 2nd edition Codex Chaos and check out the daemon princes. Of course, characters comletely dominated 2nd edition (or rather, vortex grendes dominated...) but the fact that they were the only models in the game with stats over 10 gives a pretty good indication of what primarchs might be like.

oh, yeah. strengt 12 could come in Handy while fighting the toughness 10 Dragon C'Tan...

just read that wiki article. very interesting "facts". besides Ferrus Manus most of the loyal Primarchs seem very likely to return someday.
personally I would love to see this. sort of: Warhammer 41k.
and what is it with the Eye of Terror. I allways thought it was more like a small part of the warp. but preety much all the Chaos Primarchs live there. I mean, how does this work? "hey Fulgrim, can I borrow some sugar?" "sure Mortarion. so, Poker on sunday?"

I doubt even A primach coudl surivive for 10k years in the webway

Read Horus Rising... The Original Space Marines are Immortal and so are the Primarchs

Immortal from what POV? And by what definition?

Do not confuse extremely long life with immortality.


Sure, to ordinary lifeforms I'm sure they appear immortal. But humans appear immortal to fruit flies. See my point?

They're said to be immortal as far as the gene scientists can tell. It's not wholly unambiguous, but there it is.

All the Chaos Primarchs live in the Eye of Terror because it is an area of space in which realspace and the warp overlap with each other. Physical beings cannot exist entirely in the warp without protection, the energy simply rips them apart, so the Chaos Primarchs command worlds in the Eye of Terror because they can exist there, but still command the power of Chaos to shape the worlds in the Eye as they see fit.

There's alot of "immortal" stuff in 40k... generally it's used in the sense of Tolkien's Elves. They live forever and cannot be killed by natural causes, but a bolter round in the brain tends to be terminal for everyone.

Primarchs can catch Bullets with their teeth

Posted By Anung Un Rama on 05/15/2006 1:40 PM
Primarchs can catch Bullets with their teeth

Of course,

by "Bullet", you mean Howitzer shell,

and by "Primarchs" you mean Chuck Norris.

Well as soon as I posted that I thought of a certain ork by the name of Gazghkull... Change "bolter" to "Lascannon", though of course Chuck Norris is exempt from this, that goes without saying.

Are Chuck Norris and Vin Disel the two missing primarchs?

Honestly, I don't get the whole Vin Diesel thing. He's not a patch on Chuck Norris, who is possibly one of the missing Primarchs. It's just as well he was never rediscovered, as when the Heresy began he would have roundhouse kicked all the Traitor Legions into oblivion, leaving the whole 40k game rather pointless.

screw Chuck Norris! he's not half as cool as Clint Eastwood.

And I thought I left barrens chat when I logged out of wow.

Like someone else mentioned, having a stat line past 10, yeah that would make someone as close to immortal and / or godlike as possible in 40k. Hell, they do give gods stats. Also, if an avatar of a god (a great bloodthirster) can be beaten by a primarch, well yeah. Was it Sanguinious(sp?) that sunk the Greater Bloodthirster? By greater I mean the forgeworld rendition of the beast. This was explained to me by one of the gw employees, so it could all be a crock of poo.

it is a crack of poo, never belive GW staff they make up things just for fun,  actually Sanguinius did fight the Bloodthirter but got stunned by him and saw the bloodthirster standing over him.  so sang said to him cmon lets ave it (not actual quote but similer) and the bloodthirster said  i will let you live manling and your legs will heal but this wound will always fester.  so then the bloodthirster runs  or flys off but not before killing 500 bloodangles along his path,  the sudden seath of so many of his kids knocks sanguinius unconcious.  the blood thirters name was KA'BANDHA i think.

On another note space marines and Primarchs are not immortal, they can live for a long time as they age very slowly and possibly would not die due to old age, but immortal they aint as a bolter round to the head can kill them,  space marines are meant to die in combat not retire.  if they were allowed to retire they could theoreticcally live on for ever. 

RUSS WILL RETURN, i have his word on it,  So will a few of the others,  remember if the kill aint confirmed it aint a kill.  and Robute Guillimen is slowly getting better, his throat is slowly healing, well that what an Ultramarine told me, and they dont lie,

when a primarch can heal a slipped throat while beeing in stasis, should't the emporer be able to recover too?

i said that the throat thing is what ultramarines belive, its what they say and hope.  the thing with stasis fields is that it slows time down so much that like 1000 years can pass outside but in the stasis field only a milli second would have passed so  its not like Guillaman is frozen, he is still there alive but if they remove the field he will pobviosly die.  what they claim in one of the urial ventris books is that people say it is healing due to the fact that time still moves in the stasis field.  does my answer become correct cos its in a book??

 

as for the emporer he was wounded to badly that his pysical body is gone only his conscious is there,  the golden throne is different i think to guillamans stasis field,  i think

so, if Guillaman heals in slow-motion, should't he die in slow-motion too?
screw this, I want the Primarchs to return to the game!

who knows its a miracle. hhe will live soon, and then we can use stat 10 things again, hurrah, everybody should log onto forge world website and under the miniture you would most like to see built everybody should put down primarch, flood forge world with request for models that people actually want. not crap roads and not a building that costs the same as an average players whole army.

Immortal and indestrucable are two distinct and different qualities! A Space Marine or Primarch could be in scientific terms Immortal, and still have the ability to die by mis-deed!

The reason the SM's in the HH books are said to be immortal is that none if them have yet died of age. They hadn't been in existence for long enough for anybody to make observations. Otherwise, there probably would be a few (very few) loyal SM's from the crusade still around. Death isn't particularly selective, and in combat you're just as likely to take a bullet on your first mission as somebody on their 100th.

And I can't see the Primarch's returning. The Gulliman thing is a legend within the game, not a piece of 'factual' fluff, and the Primarch's who said they'd return were probably posturing. It's not like saying "I'm just popping to the loo, I'll be back now".

On another note with the Legions, why do the SW and DA still have enmity toward each other, when Russ supposedly left to search for his lost friend Lion El'Johnson (it still makes me cringe to use that name)?

Posted By jlmb_123 on 01/13/2007 5:07 AM
On another note with the Legions, why do the SW and DA still have enmity toward each other, when Russ supposedly left to search for his lost friend Lion El'Johnson (it still makes me cringe to use that name)?

I imagine that's because he didn't.


EDIT: no one knows where he went, he just upped and left. Though, I would guess that going to look for  Lionel 'Sucker punch" El'Johnson probably wasn't at the top of his list of things to do.