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The IG love Leman Rus, Primarch of the Space Wolves. They love him so much that they named their most common battle tank after him. I have never seen an IG army with out at least one Leman Rus, and while I am sure that there are a few out there no one can tell me that they are common. The tank is ubiquitous to the IG identity. But what did Leman Rus do to deserve this honor? Why are there no Corvus Corax gunships? Or Jaghatai Khan fast attack tanks? Why no Sanguinius troop transports? I understand why half of the Primarchs are ignored by the IG, but why the other half? What did Rus do to deserve this honor?

There was a drinkng competition to name the tank. Leman Russ won. He out drank everyone else, without entering the competition.

Because it's an unsophisticated sledgehammer of an instrument that can drink anything and keeps going regardless of the environment.

(All Conquest (HH book 4, first appearance of Russes in 30k) has to say on the subject is it was named for Russ 'in honour of his savagery in war'. There is a Vulcan Mega-Bolter, but given the difference in spelling I doubt Vulkan helped build it.)

 Happyjew wrote:
There was a drinkng competition to name the tank. Leman Russ won. He out drank everyone else, without entering the competition.

Well, that seems plausible. After all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHNJUgat2i8

Look up 1d4chan, story time with Bjorn.

There was a Ferrus Manus tank, but nobody wanted a tank with its turret detached from the hull.

IIRC The Space Wolves reclaimed or defended the original factory that made them or some such thing, I don't think it's been mentioned in any fluff since 3E or maybe even 2E.

Russ was originally not a Primarch (those didn't really exist yet), just an IG General.

I imagine the other primarchs have lots of things named after them, it likely depends on a number of things, I bet for example there are a LOT of "Castle Dorns" in the Imperium. assuming the tradtion has stayed the head of the high lords is refered to as "Lord Gulliman of Macragge" we just haven't seen it.

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
There was a Ferrus Manus tank, but nobody wanted a tank with its turret detached from the hull.

Ok, fine, I smirked

Heard there was Angron pattern Battle tank. Innovative design cause it exchanged tracks for axes. Unfortunately, it could only move in random directions.

This guy got the land raider, land speeder and land crawler though.

Clearly he is three times better than Leman.

 n0t_u wrote:
This guy got the land raider, land speeder and land crawler though.

Clearly he is three times better than Leman.

I always wanted to see that tank he theorised between the predator and the land raider.

Dont forget we have the malcador tank too.

 Psienesis wrote:
Russ was originally not a Primarch (those didn't really exist yet), just an IG General.

It annoys the hell out of me when people say this because it's pure rubbish. The Imperial Guard was not mentioned anywhere in his bio in the RT rulebook. He was an example marine commander who was noted as holding the position of 'Imperial Commander' because that was the ADEPTUS TERRA rank held by ALL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER MASTERS at the time.

 Gashrog wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
Russ was originally not a Primarch (those didn't really exist yet), just an IG General.

It annoys the hell out of me when people say this because it's pure rubbish. The Imperial Guard was not mentioned anywhere in his bio in the RT rulebook. He was an example marine commander who was noted as holding the position of 'Imperial Commander' because that was the ADEPTUS TERRA rank held by ALL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER MASTERS at the time.

Yep, and nope, your wasting you time, people will still bandy around the wrong information, even when corrected.

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
There was a Ferrus Manus tank, but nobody wanted a tank with its turret detached from the hull.

Exalted


The Leman Russ Tank is a symbol of the Imperium on many battlefields, and is a tank that xenos and heretic alike fear to face. It can fill almost any battle role, run on anything flammable, and keep working through the harshest conditions, all while being able to go toe to toe with much more sophisticated xenos designed tanks like Falcons and Hammerheads. Commander Pask forgoed the chance of commanding his own Baneblade Tank for another Leman Russ after his old Hand of Steel was destroyed, and he is one of the Imperium's greatest tank aces, possibly one of the galaxy's for that matter. Makes it quite fitting to be named after Leman Russ if you ask me.

Pfft, the Primarch was named after the Tank imo.

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
There was a Ferrus Manus tank, but nobody wanted a tank with its turret detached from the hull.

Quoted for making me audibly laugh at work

Edit: Nevermind

 Formosa wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
This guy got the land raider, land speeder and land crawler though.

Clearly he is three times better than Leman.

I always wanted to see that tank he theorised between the predator and the land raider.

Dont forget we have the malcador tank too.

Well it was apparently from the great crusade so we might have it already or get it eventually.

 Formosa wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:
Russ was originally not a Primarch (those didn't really exist yet), just an IG General.

It annoys the hell out of me when people say this because it's pure rubbish. The Imperial Guard was not mentioned anywhere in his bio in the RT rulebook. He was an example marine commander who was noted as holding the position of 'Imperial Commander' because that was the ADEPTUS TERRA rank held by ALL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER MASTERS at the time.

Yep, and nope, your wasting you time, people will still bandy around the wrong information, even when corrected.

Yes and No. If you're rude about correcting someone then you're defeating your own efforts. It is human nature to resist when attacked.

 n0t_u wrote:
This guy got the land raider, land speeder and land crawler though.

Clearly he is three times better than Leman.

He also got a camera ... The LAND Camera.

You HAVE heard of the "Land Camera"- probably by it's other name - "the polaroid" (young people, ask your folks).

That's probably where the name came from, too (because the GW writers at the time were huge nerds).

It's been answered. The tank predates the Primarchs. Gw just didn't change the name. Iirc the current lore justification is that Leman russ found the forge world that came up with the design. He save the world and got the tank name after him. The tank later just happened to become the guards favourite.

Fun fact: The Rhino transport was originally named R1.NO.

I always wanted to see that tank he theorised between the predator and the land raider.

Isn't that basically the Sicarian?

It annoys the hell out of me when people say this because it's pure rubbish. The Imperial Guard was not mentioned anywhere in his bio in the RT rulebook. He was an example marine commander who was noted as holding the position of 'Imperial Commander' because that was the ADEPTUS TERRA rank held by ALL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER MASTERS at the time.

Not entirely true. The sum total of the information in his biography is:

"Born 2612016, M32, Guranta D Gurantan system. Commissioned Adeptus Terra as a special agent 0134041, M32. First rose to imperial notice during Lucan Crusade. Appointed Imperial Commander Lucan 033042, M32. Instrumental in founding Adeptus Astartes unit 4 'Spacewolves'. Suffered severe alviola damage during acid storms on Susa. Transplanted with model cybron-osmotic gill."

Which either says or implies the following:
1) He was an Adeptus Terra 'special agent' prior to being a planetary Imperial Commander and/or space marine.
2) He was involved in the Lucan Crusade (although not specifically as an army commander) and subsequently made Imperial Commander Lucan - which was (in RT) the space wolves' homeworld.
3) Since he was involved in a war on said world and subsequently made Imperial Commander of the world, it makes sense that the founding of a chapter based on said world that he was 'instrumental' in happened after this - which also makes sense reading the order of the biography.

Or to translate, he was Commander Lucan before the spacewolves existed. Once the chapter came into existance, though, the protocol (mentioned in RT) that a planet-bound chapter's chapter master and planetary Imperial commander are usually the same individual applies.

Fun fact: The Rhino transport was originally named R1.NO.

Equally, the Hellgun (alternate name for the hot-shot) was the H.E.L Gun (High Energy Laser)

locarno24 wrote:

I always wanted to see that tank he theorised between the predator and the land raider.

Isn't that basically the Sicarian?

It annoys the hell out of me when people say this because it's pure rubbish. The Imperial Guard was not mentioned anywhere in his bio in the RT rulebook. He was an example marine commander who was noted as holding the position of 'Imperial Commander' because that was the ADEPTUS TERRA rank held by ALL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER MASTERS at the time.

Not entirely true. The sum total of the information in his biography is:

"Born 2612016, M32, Guranta D Gurantan system. Commissioned Adeptus Terra as a special agent 0134041, M32. First rose to imperial notice during Lucan Crusade. Appointed Imperial Commander Lucan 033042, M32. Instrumental in founding Adeptus Astartes unit 4 'Spacewolves'. Suffered severe alviola damage during acid storms on Susa. Transplanted with model cybron-osmotic gill."

Which either says or implies the following:
1) He was an Adeptus Terra 'special agent' prior to being a planetary Imperial Commander and/or space marine.
2) He was involved in the Lucan Crusade (although not specifically as an army commander) and subsequently made Imperial Commander Lucan - which was (in RT) the space wolves' homeworld.
3) Since he was involved in a war on said world and subsequently made Imperial Commander of the world, it makes sense that the founding of a chapter based on said world that he was 'instrumental' in happened after this - which also makes sense reading the order of the biography.

Or to translate, he was Commander Lucan before the spacewolves existed. Once the chapter came into existance, though, the protocol (mentioned in RT) that a planet-bound chapter's chapter master and planetary Imperial commander are usually the same individual applies.

Fun fact: The Rhino transport was originally named R1.NO.

Equally, the Hellgun (alternate name for the hot-shot) was the H.E.L Gun (High Energy Laser)

No the sicarion has its own fluff, so I don't think its the sicarion, or maybe that's just my take on it, I imagined a literal cross between the land raider and pred chassis, a 13/13/13 transport with plenty of dakka, but like is said, that's just my interpretation of what it would look like.

Could be the sicarion though.

 Formosa wrote:
...I imagined a literal cross between the land raider and pred chassis, a 13/13/13 transport with plenty of dakka, but like is said, that's just my interpretation of what it would look like.

Could be the sicarion though.

This sounds more like the Triaros (Mechanicum battle train tank) or the Dracosan (Solar Auxilia heavy transport), honestly.

 n0t_u wrote:
land crawler though.

What is a land crawler it sounds fun.

 oldzoggy wrote:
What is a land crawler it sounds fun.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Land_Crawler

Not as fun as you think

The state of the art farming equipment. Jup this is exactly as much fun as I expected it to be.

MkVI Corvus power armour is named after Corvus Corax because the Raven Guard trialled it and showed how effective it could be after Perturabo and the Iron Warriors (and another legion, can't remember which) basically said it was useless because it wasn't as armoured as the earlier marks. The Raven Guard suggested some improvements and it was named Corvus armour because of their hand in the testing and design.