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So, this came up in another topic and I couldn't find a topic where it had been discussed in depth. Do you expect an expanded range for new Sisters? New units? Old units? More weapon options or sticking with the 'holy trinity'? New characters?

Are Deathguard the only army under "new GW" to upgrade old forces (and even then it was only one or two units)? They've done it a bit with AoS but they;d usually keep a few of the older models around there...

It'll be interesting as it's the first time GW has done something like this in a looong time, especially with community testing!

Hopefully the model is a big success and they feel they can repeat this with say an Eldar aspect warrior release or regular chaos space marine.

Holy trinity and possibly crossbows.

The rest depends in part on how much GW wants to end it's metal production. Simply replacing the old models would be a pretty hefty release in the scheme of things.

Dai wrote:
Are Deathguard the only army under "new GW" to upgrade old forces (and even then it was only one or two units)? They've done it a bit with AoS but they;d usually keep a few of the older models around there...

It'll be interesting as it's the first time GW has done something like this in a looong time, especially with community testing!

Hopefully the model is a big success and they feel they can repeat this with say an Eldar aspect warrior release or regular chaos space marine.

It did feel like a 'let's try something a bit different and see what happens' when GW announced it, and even more so when they announced the beta codex.


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A.T. wrote:
Holy trinity and possibly crossbows.

The rest depends in part on how much GW wants to end it's metal production. Simply replacing the old models would be a pretty hefty release in the scheme of things.

I agree, but it wouldn't necessarily have old players rushing out to spend their money either. The fact that it came form the players rather than GW puts the question of how much they want to end metal production in a bit of an odd place too...

Multi-pose models. I don't want to build two of the same model for each box I buy. I don't have the highest hopes.

As for releases, Celestians, BSS, Dominions, and Retributers could easily be one box. Just make sure you have enough special and heavy weapons to cover them.

That leaves separate packs for: Repentia and Seriphim.

All four tanks could be one kit, though it would probably be split to rhino/immolator, and repressor/exorcist (assuming we see a plastic repressor)
That leaves Cannonesses, Imagifers, mistresses, and hospitallars in blisters.

That's five boxes, and four blisters.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Multi-pose models. I don't want to build two of the same model for each box I buy. I don't have the highest hopes.

As for releases, Celestians, BSS, Dominions, and Retributers could easily be one box. Just make sure you have enough special and heavy weapons to cover them.

That leaves separate packs for: Repentia and Seriphim.

All four tanks could be one kit, though it would probably be split to rhino/immolator, and repressor/exorcist (assuming we see a plastic repressor)
That leaves Cannonesses, Imagifers, mistresses, and hospitallars in blisters.

That's five boxes, and four blisters.

Multi-pose? Probably not, because of all the robes on the arms.

Celestians and BSS as one box, Dominions/Retributors as another. GW likes double purpose boxes. You'll get 1 of each special/heavy in the BSS box and 2 of each in Dominion box, b/c GW is evil and never gives the maximum allowed in a squad. Probably slight differences between the two boxes, armor wise.

Seraphim will get a box of their own, they may have a variant. Repentia might get squatted in favor of something new.

Given the Primaris push, I doubt we'll see a new Rhino, but a Repressor/Exorcist sprue(s) are possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if GW rolled most of the Elites into a Command Squad that could make a variety of 5 models. I really hope we get a Jump Pack Cannonness blister.

Dai wrote:
Are Deathguard the only army under "new GW" to upgrade old forces (and even then it was only one or two units)? They've done it a bit with AoS but they;d usually keep a few of the older models around there...

It'll be interesting as it's the first time GW has done something like this in a looong time, especially with community testing!

Hopefully the model is a big success and they feel they can repeat this with say an Eldar aspect warrior release or regular chaos space marine.

Daughters of Khaine was a huge upgrade from the old Witch Elves.

I have several hundred sisters from various ranges so looking forward to something new - some kneeling or lying down shooting would be good - hell if they just do them like this be more than happy.



Celestians in Artifcer armour would be good (as would a Canoness) - a couple of new character models would be awesome.

Less likely but hoping for some new units - a large Shrine Superheavy

 John Prins wrote:
Multi-pose? Probably not, because of all the robes on the arms.

Celestians and BSS as one box, Dominions/Retributors as another. GW likes double purpose boxes. You'll get 1 of each special/heavy in the BSS box and 2 of each in Dominion box, b/c GW is evil and never gives the maximum allowed in a squad. Probably slight differences between the two boxes, armor wise.

Seraphim will get a box of their own, they may have a variant. Repentia might get squatted in favor of something new.

Given the Primaris push, I doubt we'll see a new Rhino, but a Repressor/Exorcist sprue(s) are possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if GW rolled most of the Elites into a Command Squad that could make a variety of 5 models. I really hope we get a Jump Pack Cannonness blister.

I might be wrong - but I think the idea of a seperate Dominion/Retributor box which is just BSS but with more gubbinz is highly unlikely.

I think we are moving away from the 3rd edition staple of "unit" "veteran unit" "unit with specials" "unit with heavy weapons" that you found in so many lists. They are just not fun boxes for GW to design sell.

So I expect they will do something different.

I expect most if not all the plastic kits to be for new Datasheets, rather than for ones with existing models.

This is the modus operandi for all releases this edition.

So we'll get a unit of Sisters with Bolters, but with the Primaris Intercessor treatment. And so on.

Tyel wrote:

 John Prins wrote:
Multi-pose? Probably not, because of all the robes on the arms.

Celestians and BSS as one box, Dominions/Retributors as another. GW likes double purpose boxes. You'll get 1 of each special/heavy in the BSS box and 2 of each in Dominion box, b/c GW is evil and never gives the maximum allowed in a squad. Probably slight differences between the two boxes, armor wise.

Seraphim will get a box of their own, they may have a variant. Repentia might get squatted in favor of something new.

Given the Primaris push, I doubt we'll see a new Rhino, but a Repressor/Exorcist sprue(s) are possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if GW rolled most of the Elites into a Command Squad that could make a variety of 5 models. I really hope we get a Jump Pack Cannonness blister.

I might be wrong - but I think the idea of a seperate Dominion/Retributor box which is just BSS but with more gubbinz is highly unlikely.

I think we are moving away from the 3rd edition staple of "unit" "veteran unit" "unit with specials" "unit with heavy weapons" that you found in so many lists. They are just not fun boxes for GW to design sell.

So I expect they will do something different.

Could be a box for BSS/Dominions/Retributors and a box for Command/Celestians similar to the Scions box.

Big thing for me with Sisters is they're the most over the topic gothic army in 40k, and I'm a big fan of that look and all the pseudo-religious imagery. I hope they double down on that look.

More variety in heads/faces looks would be nice as well.

Well.. having went through sob getting almost nothing and even just a WD rules at one point.

I expect only 5 kits in plastic

1 10man kit to make every unit htat uses the basic BSS, so BSS, Doms, Rets, Celestines, etc..
1 Seraphim kit (HOPEFULLY with HQ upgrade but im not getting my hopes up)
2 new vehicle kit's Immolator and Exorcist
1 more Penitent engine

There was mention in a community page a while back of novitiates. If there is any expansion, id expect to see them probably as our chaff unit.
Dont expect to see a repressor model or combined kit come out as thats forge world and i cant think of any model that was forge world being snatched up by GW.

Rhino/immolator kit already exists so thats a given.
Hoping for plastic exorcist and pengine.

Im rather hopeful with what weve seen so far. GW dont seem to be deviating from the gothic loom of the sisters and seem to be even taking it up a notch what with the flamers having that brazier look to them.

As for new things? The novitiates as i said are the only things hinted at so far. So really until GW comes out with another tease or you til CA, all we have is wishlisting.

I know i want zero deviation from the holy trinity. Plasma pistols are bad enough. Can see GW maybe giving us some different variations on the holy trinity- suuped up melta/multimelta, wider access to condemnor boltguns, flamer that are good.

Metal Bikinis and Purple Penetrator close combat weapons.

I just hope there's enough helmets in the box for the whole squad

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Dont expect to see a repressor model or combined kit come out as thats forge world and i cant think of any model that was forge world being snatched up by GW.

Baneblade and hydra comes to mind instantly.

 fraser1191 wrote:
I just hope there's enough helmets in the box for the whole squad

Me too. First, because SoB helmets are really cool. Second, because someone at GW seems to be stuck in the early 90's and insists on every sci-fi women to have an atrociously ugly bobcut. Third, because I can't paint faces even if my life depended on it.

On another note, I expect Sisters to gain a box set of five Sister that can be Dominion, Retributor, Sisters of Battle or Celestian. I expect a blister pack for the Canoness and maybe Sister Hospitalier. A new Rhino, Exorcist. A new squad of Seraphim. I think we will be stuck with the old models of Repentia and Penitent Engines. Maybe, maybe something entirely new like a suad of stealth sisters or novices, etc.

Please squash forever the lazy idea of porting scouts to Sisters and calling them novitiates. 12 year old school girl nuns-to-be makes as much sense as Inquisitorial stormtroopers wearing shorts and ball caps looking for merit badges while they get murdered by everything.

 dracpanzer wrote:
Please squash forever the lazy idea of porting scouts to Sisters and calling them novitiates. 12 year old school girl nuns-to-be makes as much sense as Inquisitorial stormtroopers wearing shorts and ball caps looking for merit badges while they get murdered by everything.

Think of it more as 18-21 year old women that didn't quite make the devotional cut to become full SoB, but are still permitted to fight with inferior weapons and armor. Double bonus points if they're armed like Imperial Guard, as people could use them as female Imperial Guard.

 dracpanzer wrote:
Please squash forever the lazy idea of porting scouts to Sisters and calling them novitiates. 12 year old school girl nuns-to-be makes as much sense as Inquisitorial stormtroopers wearing shorts and ball caps looking for merit badges while they get murdered by everything.

In the Sororitas fandex I produced a few years back, Novice where at minimum 16 years old (12 to 15 at the exit of hte scholam plus about 4 more years of training at the covent prioris on Terra or Ophelia VII). They wear power armor, but don't have boltgun, only bolt pistols and close combat weapon (or two bolt pistols). I indended them to be used as cheaper Sisters of Battle as to spam more 3+ armor save bodies on the board. Basically giving the option to Sisters to horde. Steath Sisters should be vets in my opinion a bit like it's the case in all armies except Space Marines where 16 years rocky get to handle scout duties. Yes to novice, but no to novice being wannabe scouts.

A few new kits, several new characters, the most important metal kits being replaced and having new types of wargear so you'll have to buy them to have all the options in your codex. I'd definitely look to the Death Guard release as a model for what GW wants out of their new armies (and lets face it, Sisters are so old at this point that making them plastic means they're functionally a new army as much as rebooting GSC was).

Model wise, I hope they lean a bit more towards the renascence and church theme than the sci-fi side

 Arachnofiend wrote:
A few new kits, several new characters, the most important metal kits being replaced and having new types of wargear so you'll have to buy them to have all the options in your codex. I'd definitely look to the Death Guard release as a model for what GW wants out of their new armies (and lets face it, Sisters are so old at this point that making them plastic means they're functionally a new army as much as rebooting GSC was).

I think GW'll mostly keep to the core units for sisters we all know and love, they're an iconic look and the old minis are ancient metal ones so there isn't the worry a resculpt would normally have of "minimal sales because everyone has assault marines and really doesn't need "an assault marine with an eviscriator" that said I expect some new models to be added to the line. and I expect to see new OPTIONS for the old stuff

I expect the core units of Battle Sisters, Retributors, Dominions, and possibly Celestins to be turned into a plastic kit with a few new options to encourage purchase of the kit by legacy SOB players.

I expect the Seraphim to be transformed into a plastic kit, also with new options to encourage purchases by legacy SOB players.

I expect they will somehow revise the look, if not the concept, of Repentia in a new plastic kit that could conceivably be a dual kit of some sort.

I expect a plastic kit for the Exorcist.

I expect the Rhino/Immolator kit to stay exactly as it is.

I expect they will surprise us with something new.

tneva82 wrote:

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Dont expect to see a repressor model or combined kit come out as thats forge world and i cant think of any model that was forge world being snatched up by GW.

Baneblade and hydra comes to mind instantly.

Drop pods.


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What I want?
I want all the existing SoB units to be present in the list.
I want a new exorcist kit - I've never liked the missile launching pipe organ design, & although my FW missile pods are OK I'd still like something cooler looking.

What I expect?
Plastic kits. Probably for existing stuff. Definitely for any new stuff.
Playable rules.
Unplayable rules.
Much wailing & nashing of teeth by others about something or other.

They basically have to do new units if they want Adepta Sororitas rather than Adeptus Ministorum.

Without the ministorum units the sisters book would be like 12 units and you'd only need like 2 infantry boxes and a tank box to make everything. Also we only have 1 generic HQ.

ERJAK wrote:
They basically have to do new units if they want Adepta Sororitas rather than Adeptus Ministorum.

It would be a real shame to lose the ministorum. It's what helps to make the sisters not -1 strength marines.

ERJAK wrote:
They basically have to do new units if they want Adepta Sororitas rather than Adeptus Ministorum.

Without the ministorum units the sisters book would be like 12 units and you'd only need like 2 infantry boxes and a tank box to make everything. Also we only have 1 generic HQ.

And? the Custodes have about 8 units not including HQs, which outside of Trajan are just something you build from the infantry kits (which isn't a criticism at all and in fact I think was a GREAT idea) despite sisters being such an old and respected line we need to realize that assuming a COMPLETE relaunch of the line in plastic we need to temper our expectations a bit.

tneva82 wrote:

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Dont expect to see a repressor model or combined kit come out as thats forge world and i cant think of any model that was forge world being snatched up by GW.

Baneblade and hydra comes to mind instantly.

Also Valkyries, Pirahnas, Trygons, Leman Russ Executioners and Vanquishers, Contemptor Dreads...

Guess he didn't think very hard on that one.

BrianDavion wrote:

ERJAK wrote:
They basically have to do new units if they want Adepta Sororitas rather than Adeptus Ministorum.

Without the ministorum units the sisters book would be like 12 units and you'd only need like 2 infantry boxes and a tank box to make everything. Also we only have 1 generic HQ.

And? the Custodes have about 8 units not including HQs, which outside of Trajan are just something you build from the infantry kits (which isn't a criticism at all and in fact I think was a GREAT idea) despite sisters being such an old and respected line we need to realize that assuming a COMPLETE relaunch of the line in plastic we need to temper our expectations a bit.

I didn't like how Custodes handled it personally. I would want the characters to stand out more than just 'isnt wearing a helmet'. Especially as I think they look way better with the helmet on.

It COULD be done well, but for me the Custodians weren't it. Likely mostly because the kit wasn't originally designed to have a proper Character option, it was just a squad sargent at the time.