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Just release them as upgrade packs that include only torsoes and heads, to be used in combination with an Infantry Squad box.

An upgrade pack for Cadians could be released first, to test the waters. Say, 10 identical torsoes and 2x5 heads, including a couple of bare heads for sergeants and officers. If it's successful, you can then release an upgrade pack for female Catachans, who I imagine would have sort of a Vasquez-from-Aliens aesthetic.

An upgrade pack obviously wouldn't be possible for metal regiments. One hopes that if Valhallans, Tallarn, etc. ever get plastic models (yeah right), the default boxes will include female options.

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Eh yes and no.

They are already doing that with some of the chaos and renegade models from BSF

They could do an updated kit for multiple ranges but i dont see it happening too soon.

besides story wise cadia is gone they could probably do better doing a brand new IP friendly IG force with built in fem guards.

Honestly i think the guard models need a full upgrade, They could be so much better.

I think they should just do Some female Guard as special units that can be used as normal guard if people so want.

I also think they need to get back into producing resin kits, For one off units and less in demand items. Hopefully getting someone that knows what they are doing >.<
40k is actuly looking kind of bare at the moment for new kits outside of marines.

Yes, yes it would and I would welcome it.

But they have more Marine models to make so its unlikely

I disagree with the OP.

I've seen conversions where the head was swapped and it just does not look right next to male guardsmen. The chest was the same (realistically they should not have such a defined chest as the SoB models show), so that could of course make a bit more of a difference, but for me the arms stood out as too bulky.

A full new guard kit is what is really needed and at that point they may as well stick a couple of female torsos in for those that want them.

It would, and most people are in favor of it. Why they don't make new Guardsman kits is beyond me.

Because Marines.

PSST. Do you know anvil industries, also there technically are female guardsmen, bsf ones.

I'd welcome a "true scale" infantry squad and put them on same height as tau.

Guardsmen are too big - they're the same height as "crab legged" old marines.

New guardsmen models would be dope.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
It would, and most people are in favor of it. Why they don't make new Guardsman kits is beyond me.

They arent done milking the super old Cadian kit yet.

once those start to wear out they will probably take the time to make NEW cadians or whatever they become.

also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

 Desubot wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
It would, and most people are in favor of it. Why they don't make new Guardsman kits is beyond me.

They arent done milking the super old Cadian kit yet.

once those start to wear out they will probably take the time to make NEW cadians or whatever they become.

also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

I feel like the current cadian plastics are the reason we've not gotten an update. It would need to be a big release to replace all the current plastics and GW just don't seem to want to release large amounts of kits at once unless they're really pressured into doing so. Like look at Eldar. If ever there was a time to do a big Eldar rerelease it was last month and instead they just squirted out some banshees.

 Desubot wrote:
besides story wise cadia is gone they could probably do better doing a brand new IP friendly IG force with built in fem guards.

Is it really gone? I thought the system had other worlds still standing, all of which would be "Cadian" (as in, the Cadian system).

I could also imagine the Cadian army continuing to "live on in spirit" through an influx of refugees from other fallen worlds, even generations after the planet itself has been destroyed. Cadia becomes an idea rather than a place, and the Cadian army is now a sort of pan-Imperial army with standardized equipment.

 Desubot wrote:
also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

Uuuugh you're right. I hate it. Hate, hate, hate it.

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In this day and age, I’d just prefer a 3rd party to fill this need. Heck, as far as infantry goes, I think there’s sufficient 3rd party alternatives that I wouldn’t buy Cadians unless they came packaged with some other vehicle or boxed set.

 Desubot wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
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also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

So? 90% of my GW miniatures are mono pose metal. Didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now. Also never stopped me from doing conversions if I wanted.

-Guardsman- wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
besides story wise cadia is gone they could probably do better doing a brand new IP friendly IG force with built in fem guards.

Is it really gone? I thought the system had other worlds still standing, all of which would be "Cadian" (as in, the Cadian system).

I could also imagine the Cadian army continuing to "live on in spirit" through an influx of refugees from other fallen worlds, even generations after the planet itself has been destroyed. Cadia becomes an idea rather than a place, and the Cadian army is now a sort of pan-Imperial army with standardized equipment.

This is literally the whole premise that GW themselves espoused after the original 13th Black Crusade.

 Desubot wrote:
also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

Uuuugh you're right. I hate it. Hate, hate, hate it.

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Then you're crazy. If they want us to be an infantry spamageddon force, less pose wonkiness is a huge draw.

ccs wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
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also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

So? 90% of my GW miniatures are mono pose metal. Didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now. Also never stopped me from doing conversions if I wanted.

Yeah i have no issues with it ether.

still pointing it out.

SeanDrake wrote:
A full new guard kit is what is really needed and at that point they may as well stick a couple of female torsos in for those that want them.

Which should be anyone who builds their army to be fluff accurate.

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 Desubot wrote:

ccs wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
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also expect mono pose sprues. 100%

So? 90% of my GW miniatures are mono pose metal. Didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now. Also never stopped me from doing conversions if I wanted.

Yeah i have no issues with it ether.

still pointing it out.

I prefer monopose. Faster to assemble.

Particularly with Guard... you don’t need unique models. You’ve got 100 of them on the table. Easy to build, easy to paint. If you have a pose-able sergeant, pose-able special weapon, pose-able heavy weapon crew, and pose-able Vox... you could have 5 identical Lasgunners and nobody would notice, times 10 Squads (50 identical infantry out of 100) and still. No one would notice. Because you just pick them up by the handful and toss them in a bucket.

I still recall going from 3rd edition Dark Eldar to Imperial Guard and being *intensely* disappointed that at least 2/10 models weren’t women. It’s weird to me. The Guard range is all essentially the same legs, torso, head with different weapons.

You could, seriously, sell 20 packs where 10 are monopose lasgunners and the rest are solid head, torso, legs chunks with a variety of arms to plug on and backpacks to add (voxes and other potential upgrades).

It stuns me that this isn’t the case. Like, a $70 box that builds 20 Guardsmen / women. You can build Sergeants, Commanders, Medics... for the love of an uncaring universe put a minimum Platoon of 25 dudes in a box, put 2 of each weapon upgrade in there, and go to town.

Aaargh!

yeah people say they want updated guard but my concern is if they updated the guard range it'd be too detailed. all the triim etc makes painting CSMs a bit of a slow process.so a hyperdetailed guard mini could be a pain.

It would be cool if GW made some female guard. They won't though, they are insanely reluctant to really do any new stuff for guard, let alone new guard female infantry. Since 8th dropped there was two guard releases. Marbo, and Commissar Raine, they seem content to put out nothing new for them for quite awhile and I'd not expect that to change this coming year.

Be thankful though as with the current price creep I'm sure any new guard models would be very costly.

-Guardsman- wrote:
Say, 10 identical torsoes and 2x5 heads

I'll be honest, while I'd like to see female Guardsmen, almost all of the attempts I've seen have been cheesecake-y over-sexualized takes. I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but what exactly would you expect to be different about the torsos? I mean, under body armor, you literally can't tell the difference, so unless there's obvious boobplate (a la Sisters) I'd expect 'female' torsos to be the same as 'male' ones.

The BSF models do a good job of showing just how subtle the difference is between a male and female soldier in uniform, with a helmet, under armor. Sisters are stylistically designed to exaggerate their femininity in a way that is unfitting for Guard IMO.

New Guard kits, please. They could do so much better thsn the Cadians now.

By the time you give a Guardsman enough performance enhancers she can outrun a motorbike on command she won't look feminine any longer.

 skchsan wrote:
I'd welcome a "true scale" infantry squad and put them on same height as tau.

Guardsmen are too big - they're the same height as "crab legged" old marines.

The newest custode model is the same hight as the SoS, I don't think GW cares about scale between models much.

By the time you give a Guardsman enough performance enhancers she can outrun a motorbike on command she won't look feminine any longer.

But not the skeleton structure, after puberty girls don't grow, that is why girls that want to make it big in volleyball or hand balls teams are given puberty blokcers by their parents. A normal female on juice can be build like 2/3 of an Arnold, but she will still be a head or head and a half shorter then a dude on same stuff.
Anyway in protective gear besides the hight and face the difference would be really hard to spot. Specially if someone is running around in a trenchcoat with a gas mask on. Now catachan are a different thing. No idea how those would look like. Probably like a mixed spring sports camp team after morning run session.

I'll be honest, while I'd like to see female Guardsmen, almost all of the attempts I've seen have been cheesecake-y over-sexualized takes. I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but what exactly would you expect to be different about the torsos? I mean, under body armor, you literally can't tell the difference, so unless there's obvious boobplate (a la Sisters) I'd expect 'female' torsos to be the same as 'male' ones.

Victoria Miniatures produces some models that can be taken seriously:
https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/character-miniatures/products/copy-of-female-commissar-annaka-sage

As you can see the Torso is still flak, but a little bit slimmer, as are the arms and legs (which are also a wee bit shorter). I also got the impression, that their Guardswoman are realistically a little bit shorter overall compared to the males. All in all I think this example shows that it would be possible to create not over-sexualized Guardswomen

Pyroalchi wrote:

I'll be honest, while I'd like to see female Guardsmen, almost all of the attempts I've seen have been cheesecake-y over-sexualized takes. I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but what exactly would you expect to be different about the torsos? I mean, under body armor, you literally can't tell the difference, so unless there's obvious boobplate (a la Sisters) I'd expect 'female' torsos to be the same as 'male' ones.

Victoria Miniatures produces some models that can be taken seriously:
https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/character-miniatures/products/copy-of-female-commissar-annaka-sage

As you can see the Torso is still flak, but a little bit slimmer, as are the arms and legs (which are also a wee bit shorter). I also got the impression, that their Guardswoman are realistically a little bit shorter overall compared to the males. All in all I think this example shows that it would be possible to create not over-sexualized Guardswomen

Those are great as well, Got about 60 of them. I wish i was a better painter Just so i could do them up super awesome!

@ OP:

Upgrade pack with ONLY female heads and torsos? This would just look horrible on those old plastic kits. Here is a heretical idea:

Produce brand new female guardswomen!
Alas, won´t happen as GW is too busy trying to force Primaris down our throats. Customer service response probably would be like this:

"Great idea, mate! Just order a box of Witch Elves & Green Stuff and you can build your very own guardswomen right away!"

No, your best bet would be to look for other companies like Raging Heroes. They have a female Catachan force ready for sale.

If they ever get around to redoing the kits I think it is inevitable we'll see women guardsmen. They've been doing a much better job in AoS when they realized that Stormcast don't have to be carbon copies Space Marines and it gave us a lot of really cool women as Stormcast.

In fact I think they are getting better at this in general. They released a Flesh-Eater Courts Underworld kit and it had its first female Flesh-Eater. Sure, it is a bit of a "Smurfette syndrome" as it is the only female ghoul, but I appreciate it.