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Whitehot on Bolter and Chainsword has joined the images up:
New box leak:
[url]Image from the Open Day:
--Older News--
I've gotten permissions from the mods to start up a new Horus Heresy news and rumour thread so the old generic Forgeworld thread can be closed off. To start us off, here's the Arquitor Bombard:
The Legion Arquitor Pattern Bombard is a heavy artillery platform designed to operate at the forefront of the Legiones Astartes' advance. Equipped with a reinforced chassis and brutal short-range firepower, it is called upon to break the most stubborn of fortifications or to annihilate massed enemy infantry and armour.
Available to both Loyalist and Traitor forces, the Legion Arquitor Pattern Bombard can be fielded in units of up to three vehicles. The spicula rocket system is able to remove any obstacle to the advance of your Space Marines army in a series of devastating explosions. You can also add even more firepower to your indomitable artillery platform in the shape of sponson-mounted heavy bolters or autocannons. If you need to add mobile heavy firepower to your force, the Arquitor Pattern Bombard is ideal.
Also, here's a repost of the the Road to Thramas article:
Last time on the Road to Thramas, we took a first look inside The Horus Heresy Book 9 – Crusade and some of the new units contained within. Now, we’re taking a look at a new Elite option for the Dark Angels Legion.
Thramas was one of the most brutal war zones in the entire Horus Heresy. Where the fighting was most intense, Lion El’Jonson would unleash his elite Inner Circle Knights Cenobium. What’s a Cenobium? Good question! It’s a temporary cell of warriors from an Order of the Dark Angels, assembled on the eve of a mission that requires their unique skills.
Clad in the finest Cataphractii pattern Terminator armour, the cenobites* of the Inner Circle could easily weather the storm of shrapnel and flame produced by the terrible weapons of the Great Crusade with limited risk. Armed with the best weapons that the Legion could provide, they would bring the fury of their assault into the heart of enemy formations.
The models to represent this squad are truly stunning. They are covered in the symbols and heraldry of the First Legion and you can see the similarities with the Deathwing Knights 10,000 years later, with their hoods** and Dark Angels iconography.
The squad are all armed with a Terranic greatsword and a plasma-caster. The latter is a weapon that’s unique to the Dark Angels and is a smaller version of regular plasma weaponry, fitted into the vambrace to allow the Inner Circle Knights to fight unencumbered in combat.
Before a game begins, you can select the Order that your Inner Circle Knights are from – each one is dedicated to a singular creed of war. Each different Order provides the unit with a special rule for the duration of the battle that enhances their specific fighting style.
Whichever Order you induct your Knights into, they are going to prove crucial in the conflicts across Thramas, Triplex and beyond.
The Inner Circle Knights Cenobium will be available later in the year, as will The Horus Heresy Book Nine – Crusade.
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2020/01/10 13:34:11
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
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Nostromodamus wrote: I’d like one for my Death Guard. Wish they could take phosphex...
Well, we do have the Graviton Charge Cannon to come:
Not too much of a stretch to give it Phosphex launchers. Though, I have a feeling that's become a bit of a Taboo subject in FW. They've probably had endless e-mails about the annoyance of Phosphex.
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2020/01/10 14:17:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
I actually like these little "minitanks". For some reason they remind me of the "tick tanks" from Tiberium Sun (yes I'm aware that they have no relation what so ever to the tick tank - but they are tick-tanks for marines )
I like the autocannon sponsons, but not a fan of the rocket battery. Just don't like that style of mortar rockets on this, or the karaktos batteries on admech stuff.
2020/01/10 15:23:51
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Gadzilla666 wrote: Just to reiterate from the old thread. It has one entry point and obviously must have a crew bigger than one. That equals death trap.
The hatch is just to give the Tech-Priest access so he can make repairs to the hardwired Servitors anyway, isn't it?
2020/01/10 15:37:53
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Das_Ubermike wrote: Isn't that tank just a sicaran with its hull facing the wrong direction?
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Yeah, pretty much. I anxiously await the HH twerking dreadnought variant that goes butt first into combat.
2020/01/10 15:39:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
That tank is such an odd duck. It’s AV12 in front, but it has 4HP. It’s weapon has a 24” range, but it’s Heavy, so it has trouble crossing the battlefield to get in range. It’s got a nice Autocannon sponson option, but its main gun is ordnance, so those are snapfiring (maybe useful if you rocket barrage yourself out of ammo?). Its gun is Str 7, but it has Sunder and Wrecker. As far as I can tell, it will never use Wrecker, because it can’t glance buildings (they’re all AV14). The slow speed and short range will also make it hard to get side armor shots, which it needs because it only has Str 7. It’s also direct fire only.
Maybe as a Castellax/Daemon hunter? It’s at least pretty cheap. Maybe with some screening it could really mess up Daemons and Cybernetica, and FW put Sunder on there in case you happen to be facing a more common army? Wrecker is just bad on this.
2020/01/10 16:03:05
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
not really a fan of it.
It's not awfull but also not really that must have thing
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2020/01/10 16:42:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Gadzilla666 wrote: Just to reiterate from the old thread. It has one entry point and obviously must have a crew bigger than one. That equals death trap.
Why obviously a crew greater than one? Looks designed for a single marine crew, maybe hardwired servitors for the guns if not autotargeters. If a single human can crew a knight, a single marine can run this far more simple vehicle.
2020/01/10 18:19:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
I don't like it. I really don't like it at 95 quid.
The rework of the old Sabre concept into the minitank series was pretty cool, but these artillery vehicles just feel kinda...lazy? If they were going to reuse the CAD assets from previous vehicles, I'd prefer they'd kept the tracks the right way around and done a heavier redesign of the main chassis to accommodate the new weapon systems, rather than just flipping them around and hanging the gun off the back.
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2020/01/10 18:28:05
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Yodhrin wrote: I don't like it. I really don't like it at 95 quid.
The rework of the old Sabre concept into the minitank series was pretty cool, but these artillery vehicles just feel kinda...lazy? If they were going to reuse the CAD assets from previous vehicles, I'd prefer they'd kept the tracks the right way around and done a heavier redesign of the main chassis to accommodate the new weapon systems, rather than just flipping them around and hanging the gun off the back.
agree it's waaayyyyyy too expensive.
Not to defend the new minitanks, but this is totally reasonable thing for the Mechanicum to do. The chassis is proven, so just flip it around and bam, you have a new platform & a happy new Magos or Fabricator.
2020/01/10 18:37:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
RiTides wrote: It's funny, I love it . This is a very polarizing tank, it seems! Is there a size comparison photo for this, or for a tank with the same chassis?
It’s the same size as the Sicaran. Much bigger than the sabre
2020/01/10 19:23:07
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Erren wrote: That tank is such an odd duck. It’s AV12 in front, but it has 4HP. It’s weapon has a 24” range, but it’s Heavy, so it has trouble crossing the battlefield to get in range. It’s got a nice Autocannon sponson option, but its main gun is ordnance, so those are snapfiring (maybe useful if you rocket barrage yourself out of ammo?). Its gun is Str 7, but it has Sunder and Wrecker. As far as I can tell, it will never use Wrecker, because it can’t glance buildings (they’re all AV14). The slow speed and short range will also make it hard to get side armor shots, which it needs because it only has Str 7. It’s also direct fire only.
Actually RAW the rocket's special rules only requirement is that the target unit or point on the board be in range, makes no mention of requiring line of site and it gives you the full methodology for who to resolve the attack in the paragraph itself. This leads to a lot of problems because all the language around shooting only refferences targeting units and not point on the battlefield, so you get problems with jink saves, problems with the sponson weapons not being able to shoot if the main gun targets a point and not a unit. It needs clarification for sure.
Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
2020/01/10 22:53:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30k - News and Rumours - Road to Thramas Pt2 and Arquitor Bombard
Look at the rocket's special rule, place template within range, scatter, if the template touches a unit it does the corresponding number of hits.
I believe forgworld is going to clarify and explicitly state it doesn't need los. They need to clarify a lot of things if they're changing targeting unit to points on the board, like, how does that interact with terrain, is the third level of a ruin a point on the board? Also, because you can't target points on the board with the sponsons, it means you'll never even be able to snap fire along with the main weapon.
My simple reasoning is they call it an artillery tank and the weapon axis is clearly rather high, even with 22.5 in each direction you won't have much in your los if that's how it is intended to be played
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