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So, Scale75 version of Contrast Paints.

Quick math in dollars: GW Contrast is about 43 cents a ML. These Scale75 ones are about 19 cents a ML.

Obviously we don't know exactly how they work compared with each other, but the pictures seem similar, at least. Might be worth checking out, even with shipping to the US, for example, it's still somewhat cheaper than the alternatives. Personally I am very curious about their medium as well.

More information and videos on Kickstarter

Well The only experience I have with Scale75 is random green colour I bought just to test to see it's coverage.

I now use that green for all my Orc models and I love it! So I'm definitely taking a look at this.

Many top tier painters seem to prefer Scale75 paints, so I'll give this a look.
I have gotten lots of great results from my citadel contrast paints, so I have lots of reasons to be interested.

Well, it's interesting at least

It also seems to be a lot easier to control.

The videos I've seen don't show this stuff just flooding areas like Contrast.

Top tier product for sure.

The campaign seems a bit scummy tho, low discount, high shipping, bad combo sets forcing you into ordering the Big Box to get any real use.

I say wait for retail unless you want the full range.

 TalonZahn wrote:
It also seems to be a lot easier to control.

The videos I've seen don't show this stuff just flooding areas like Contrast.

I haven't personally used Contrast paints, but yeah, these some more "glaze-like" rather than the seemingly "wash-like" GW ones.






Seems like, maybe somewhat predictably, the darker colors seem to do a bit better in one coat.

I'm really interested. I love scale color paints and contrast paints have some great usages. I was hoping they'd do their own range of similar paints.

 TalonZahn wrote:
It also seems to be a lot easier to control.

The videos I've seen don't show this stuff just flooding areas like Contrast.

Yes, interesting product and im tempted with the big box, but hobby funds are low. Though I have no issue with Contrast flooding anywhere it isn't suposed to be. It never spills into other areas. I even use it to paint geometric shapes on shoulder pads.

Just like with the Wolfenstein board game, I went from mildly interested to not at all when I saw shipping. that's not their fault, but I've gotta wait for retail.

Unlike contrast, it seems to work better on armor parts, while contrasts works well on places with a lot of wrinkles.

 Polonius wrote:
Just like with the Wolfenstein board game, I went from mildly interested to not at all when I saw shipping. that's not their fault, but I've gotta wait for retail.

Yeah, the shipping is not cheap. Especially for a giant wooden box. I mean, I'd like all 48 colors, honestly, but I don't want a wooden box, and I want want to pay to have it shipped to me even less.

However, for just some paint sets, the shipping is only a bit over twice as much as Scale75usa charges to ship things. So, it is a premium, but not too much more. That sort of just is the price one has to pay if you want to get them before MM or some other retailer gets them. I don't have a local store, let alone one that stocks Scale75, so my personal options are always very limited.

After having a look, I'll not be backing due to not being able to pick out colors. I understand why they do this, but the savings vs contrast disappears when I have to buy colors I don't want.

 H wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
Just like with the Wolfenstein board game, I went from mildly interested to not at all when I saw shipping. that's not their fault, but I've gotta wait for retail.

Yeah, the shipping is not cheap. Especially for a giant wooden box. I mean, I'd like all 48 colors, honestly, but I don't want a wooden box, and I want want to pay to have it shipped to me even less.

However, for just some paint sets, the shipping is only a bit over twice as much as Scale75usa charges to ship things. So, it is a premium, but not too much more. That sort of just is the price one has to pay if you want to get them before MM or some other retailer gets them. I don't have a local store, let alone one that stocks Scale75, so my personal options are always very limited.

If you order everything in the Spellcaster pledge separately (including the brushes and pallet) it's about the same price as the early bird so basically your getting the box free. Looking at shipping they said all the regular boxes of paint, doesn't include primer, are only 20 euros to ship roughly. So you could do them cheaper.

If in the use and waiting for retail I can't recommend Fantazation Miniatures enough for paints (https://www.fantization.com/) they don't do free shipping usually but they tend to always have some 20-25% off sale every few weeks which will make up for the cost. They also tend to get shipments every 2 weeks from scale directly so the paint is always fresh (but they tend to sell out quick so you might have to wait for the next shipment).

When/if I can find these on flgs I'll give a try. As is too expensive to just give a try with those shippings and prices.

Do look interesting which is why I could give them a go when they come retail provided easy to get hands on.

These look interesting, especially given the price difference, although whether that holds up when these are on general sale as individual bottles we'll have to see. I'll be interested to see some direct comparisons(ideally from painters who won't reflexively favour S75s effort due to them not being GW).

 Yodhrin wrote:
These look interesting, especially given the price difference. I'll be interested to see some direct comparisons(ideally from painters who won't reflexively favour S75s effort due to them not being GW).

Well I'm all in. I probably could post some stuff/impressions when I get them. I love Scale's gel based paints, they click with how I paint I guess, but I also really love Contrast paints. Here's some photos of me using both for some minis. These took me maybe 15-25 minutes a figure.

Those are some great results Monkeysloth!

 Monkeysloth wrote:
If you order everything in the Spellcaster pledge separately (including the brushes and pallet) it's about the same price as the early bird so basically your getting the box free. Looking at shipping they said all the regular boxes of paint, doesn't include primer, are only 20 euros to ship roughly. So you could do them cheaper.

If in the use and waiting for retail I can't recommend Fantazation Miniatures enough for paints (https://www.fantization.com/) they don't do free shipping usually but they tend to always have some 20-25% off sale every few weeks which will make up for the cost. They also tend to get shipments every 2 weeks from scale directly so the paint is always fresh (but they tend to sell out quick so you might have to wait for the next shipment).

Yeah, the last thing I need are brushes or primer though too. And, good point on Fantazation, I've ordered from them in the past actually, I just usually forget. That being said, I don't think I am going to go in on the Kickstarter, because, even if I did, by the time I got around to a project where I'd actually use them, they likely have been available at retail for ages. I get things done at a literal glacial pace, so even my current project is likely more than a year, plus, away.

That being said, I think I will almost certainly get all 48 of these when they are at retail, plus some of that medium to experiment combining with inks.

Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

They look like they handle much nicer than Contrast, dry slower and can be touched up without smearing. After watching the videos I am pumped.

I pretty religiously paint five or so models a night, so I go through Contrast soooo quickly. An easier to control counterpart for a third the price sounds ideal!

Really tempted by these, but the shipping makes me less certain.

Might wait until they hit retail.

I was going to back the full set until I saw that shipping cost...

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

See, for me, it feels hilarious that you feel that's high shipping, taking into account that the other way around is usually triple that amount.

Not the fact that you feel it's expensive, just the fact that we get shafted so heavily when ordering from the US.

 Albertorius wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

See, for me, it feels hilarious that you feel that's high shipping, taking into account that the other way around is usually triple that amount.

Not the fact that you feel it's expensive, just the fact that we get shafted so heavily when ordering from the US.

$20 international is not that expensive at all. I would easily understand if a few sets were 40 Euro shipping people complaining. Its 10 Euro for the base pledge and 20 for all the sets. Paint is heavy and it has to be shipped in a way it won't freeze (I had this happen with an order from Scale Color like 5-6 years ago and the paint is unusable if it does) which probably increases the cost too. That's not to say if you don't feel the deal is good enough you should back, everyone has their own line, but the shipping is pretty reasonable for what it is. Spain's shipping costs are also set by the government so there's no competition there either (from what I've been told by Corvus Belli when I ordered something from them).

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

See, for me, it feels hilarious that you feel that's high shipping, taking into account that the other way around is usually triple that amount.

Not the fact that you feel it's expensive, just the fact that we get shafted so heavily when ordering from the US.

$20 international is not that expensive at all. I would easily understand if a few sets were 40 Euro shipping people complaining. Its 10 Euro for the base pledge and 20 for all the sets. Paint is heavy and it has to be shipped in a way it won't freeze (I had this happen with an order from Scale Color like 5-6 years ago and the paint is unusable if it does) which probably increases the cost too. That's not to say if you don't feel the deal is good enough you should back, everyone has their own line, but the shipping is pretty reasonable for what it is. Spain's shipping costs are also set by the government so there's no competition there either (from what I've been told by Corvus Belli when I ordered something from them).

We in the US subsidize shipping from other countries.its part of why the postal service here is always begging for more money. So in a few years when that’s gone, we will be paying just as much for shipping.

 Theophony wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

See, for me, it feels hilarious that you feel that's high shipping, taking into account that the other way around is usually triple that amount.

Not the fact that you feel it's expensive, just the fact that we get shafted so heavily when ordering from the US.

$20 international is not that expensive at all. I would easily understand if a few sets were 40 Euro shipping people complaining. Its 10 Euro for the base pledge and 20 for all the sets. Paint is heavy and it has to be shipped in a way it won't freeze (I had this happen with an order from Scale Color like 5-6 years ago and the paint is unusable if it does) which probably increases the cost too. That's not to say if you don't feel the deal is good enough you should back, everyone has their own line, but the shipping is pretty reasonable for what it is. Spain's shipping costs are also set by the government so there's no competition there either (from what I've been told by Corvus Belli when I ordered something from them).

We in the US subsidize shipping from other countries.its part of why the postal service here is always begging for more money. So in a few years when that’s gone, we will be paying just as much for shipping.

Didn't know that. I know China does that to keep costs down but first I've heard on the US doing the same.

Well as long as I don't have to pay custom fee's I'm fine with real shipping costs.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ooof, that's a big pass now doing that math on all that....it's pretty expensive, nearly 20$ shipping for US

See, for me, it feels hilarious that you feel that's high shipping, taking into account that the other way around is usually triple that amount.

Not the fact that you feel it's expensive, just the fact that we get shafted so heavily when ordering from the US.

$20 international is not that expensive at all. I would easily understand if a few sets were 40 Euro shipping people complaining. Its 10 Euro for the base pledge and 20 for all the sets. Paint is heavy and it has to be shipped in a way it won't freeze (I had this happen with an order from Scale Color like 5-6 years ago and the paint is unusable if it does) which probably increases the cost too. That's not to say if you don't feel the deal is good enough you should back, everyone has their own line, but the shipping is pretty reasonable for what it is. Spain's shipping costs are also set by the government so there's no competition there either (from what I've been told by Corvus Belli when I ordered something from them).

We in the US subsidize shipping from other countries.its part of why the postal service here is always begging for more money. So in a few years when that’s gone, we will be paying just as much for shipping.

Didn't know that. I know China does that to keep costs down but first I've heard on the US doing the same.

Well as long as I don't have to pay custom fee's I'm fine with real shipping costs.

There was a great avideo about it, I’ll try and dig it out, but to assist third world countries the us post office cuts the shipping fees for them. China spends a ton of money to retain its third world status for just such a thing. It was to aid these struggling economies develope. That’s why I can order stuff on wish and get it shipped for $0.25 from China and it’s cheaper than gas to the store. E

Anyway, an eight paint set will be about €35 euro shipped ( less than $40). So $5 a paint,cheaper than contrast. I’ve been meaning to try the scale 75 stuff. Hopefully Miniaturemarket will pick these up as well.

These look interesting. I'd been meaning to try Contrast, and also meaning to try Scale75. So I guess the Contrast equivalent by Scale75 should also be on my radar.

I don't think I really want to just order the whole lot of these without knowing if I'll find them useful or not, and the way the sets of 8 are generally grouped by similar tones isn't the most conducive to "I'll just get a few to try them". So I'll probably give these a go once they hit retail.