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Mine just shipped. probably won't have them for a week but pretty excited as I like Scale Colors' color selection better then GWs and Contrast Paints are just so dang useful.

That might be a little optimistic, based on some past experiences I’ve had with Scale75 packages. Also, going through customs in NY when it gets here has been a crap shoot. I’ve had stuff from Europe go right through, while other packages from the same vendor even have languished in customs for weeks before moving again. Good luck.

 totalfailure wrote:
That might be a little optimistic, based on some past experiences I’ve had with Scale75 packages. Also, going through customs in NY when it gets here has been a crap shoot. I’ve had stuff from Europe go right through, while other packages from the same vendor even have languished in customs for weeks before moving again. Good luck.

I've had odd custom delays too though my packages from Europe generally land in Indiana as I'm more West Coast and rarely though NY/NJ.

Any idea onn when these might hit their store?

Well they're expecting to finish KSer delivery this month so I would guess November sometime.

 Monkeysloth wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
That might be a little optimistic, based on some past experiences I’ve had with Scale75 packages. Also, going through customs in NY when it gets here has been a crap shoot. I’ve had stuff from Europe go right through, while other packages from the same vendor even have languished in customs for weeks before moving again. Good luck.

I've had odd custom delays too though my packages from Europe generally land in Indiana as I'm more West Coast and rarely though NY/NJ.

Welp, my order went through NY/NJ and was stuck there for almost 3 weeks. Only got it today. The wooden box they came in was slightly damaged, basically some of the staples used pulled loose from a panel. Didn't look like they used much adhesive if any. Some woodglue and pushing the staples back into their holes fixed it pretty quick.

I've got some boars and Brahmin primed and I should have plenty of time tomorrow to get some of them painted with these.

At least someone got something. Good luck. My order has been lost in the NYC Customs black hole for almost three weeks now.

How the hell did I miss this?

 totalfailure wrote:
At least someone got something. Good luck. My order has been lost in the NYC Customs black hole for almost three weeks now.

That sucks. Not much you can do if Customs swallows it too. They just don't seam to care.

Mine was received by customs on the 7th and I just got it in the mail yesterday.

Got dispatch notice today

Mine arrived at NYC customs 10/16, and has not moved since. Other people’s stuff arrived later, went through customs, and was delivered long ago already while my and others stuff continues to sit there.

So I've been playing around with these for a bit tonight and they're much less intense then Contrast paints. I was expecting this to some degree based off of the samples they've shown but they're really kind of more of a wash+ or premade glaze then an equivalent for contrast paints. It takes 2-4 coats to = one contrast. While that's not bad in general they really don't perform the same as I'd say contrast are closer to stains were in brief contact applies some color. These really don't do that.

I think you'll want to use these like a glaze or a tint to get the most use out of them. Not sad I bought them, as I like the color range and I'm sure I'll get these working in my paint process and there's a lot of the set I haven't tried yet. But a bit disappointed I cannot replace Contrast Paints with them as it means I still have to buy multiple paint lines.

The brahmin below are mostly Instant Colors with a slight dry brush of flesh paint over them for the skin. The horns are GW sepia wash. Overall not bad but several coats for the skin (3). The fur/hair was a lighter yellow Instant Color then covered with a brown Instant color. Oddly enough the brighter yellow was a stronger pigment then the brown.

Looking over the bases pic posted by Monkey, i can't help but feel like these paints are a bit "washed out". A lot more pastel rather than vibrant colours.

I think contrast will win out over these for "ease and speed" of painting, but i'd be happy to be proven wrong as time goes by and more people get to test them.

Well that's €100 out the window then...

Kdash wrote:
Looking over the bases pic posted by Monkey, i can't help but feel like these paints are a bit "washed out". A lot more pastel rather than vibrant colours.

I think contrast will win out over these for "ease and speed" of painting, but i'd be happy to be proven wrong as time goes by and more people get to test them.

There's nothing surprising about them not being as vibrant. They showed off plenty of samples.

I've only used maybe 10 total paints from the line. Some are much better then others but I'll add a cavate that I'm choosing duller colors atm as I'm panting for fallout so that may skew my initial findings. I think there's more intense ones but nothing like warp green--but again that wasn't something ScaleColor was hiding.

I think as far as ease they're the same as contrast, just put them down. Speed, well that will depend on what look you want. At the very worst it will probably be an average of two layers down. My results are also probably skewed as I do a gray scale base where the recesses are black and gets lighter as you go out into detail. contrast paints work very well with that method, these really aren't. If you used pure white, or one of their off white primers, results might be much better.

I will say they're much more forgiving then contrast paints and another set of models I've started painting I've found that using these to add depth to areas work very well. Again, more like washes. I did leave some out for a bit in a welled pallet and, since I live in an area of low humidity, was able to get something much stronger after only maybe 20-30 min. But that's not really an ideal selling pitch.

Sure looks interesting, I like the more pastel approach similar to painting only with washes. Might be what I'm looking for as the lack of control and vibrancy of Contrasts is a big no for me.

Got notice back from Scale 75, they are not permitting a way in to late back at this time.

 Orlanth wrote:
Got notice back from Scale 75, they are not permitting a way in to late back at this time.

Ya. The project is almost fulfilled and they're going to be going to retail pretty soon after that.


Finished a few more things. Two boars from Wreck Age. These look better then the cows, I just don't think skintones/light orange/reds work well even in contrast paints, and are mostly Instant Colors. There's some dry brushing on the leathers but the colors I used weren't the right contrast (they're what I use for snakebite leather contrast) so I need to play around with a few more browns and some highlights for the leathers. Also, like the cows, horns and stuff are sepia wash.

I think the blue turned out quite well, the water orb was one coat and conveys the effect quite nicely but this blue is one of the more vibrant ones in the line. Everything except the brown fur was one coat too. Maybe the Beastial Brown is just weaker, look at the front most leg on the second board to see how one coat looks, then the others as it was an issue with the brahman as well.

And a quick append so I can have text between attachments. Here's a photo of one of the Instant Color Bhramin, right, and a mole rat I did with Contrast paints.

The Bramin was about 3 coats and two colors actually (used a darker colors for some of the recessed areas) and the mole rat was one coat of whatever the monster/daemon flesh is called. Both have a regular flesh coat drybrushed on them but the mole rat has two. I didn't feel the second was needed for the Bramin as the color I was using really didn't highlight too much.

The contrast tints the blacks better for sure. The Instant Colors needed extra coats and more covered the darker areas due to the extra layers as opposed to the tint. You can also see one of my gray scale base coats in the background. With fur you don't get a lot of variance generally.

Thanks for the pics! Mine shipped on the 20th, so hoping it makes it way to me soon.

I like that they're lighter/paler than contrast, which I've taken to watering down with the medium. More tools for different niches or color schemes.

How do they work after applied to the model? With contrast (for me at least) there's only a small window to basically push the goo around before it reaches the point of no return and you're hosed with any pooling that has started.

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:


How do they work after applied to the model? With contrast (for me at least) there's only a small window to basically push the goo around before it reaches the point of no return and you're hosed with any pooling that has started.

They're much more forgiving as I've said. Many don't instantly stain so you can easily work most of it out. You lave less time then a wash but it's way more then contrast. I have a feeling though that this will really be on a color by color basis. For example the brown used for the leather and the deep yellow on top of the second boar are quite strong and may not let you remove the color once laid down.

Update: Used a few more colors and even some of the stronger ones still were mostly removeable 30 seconds or so after putting the paint down. I found using a paper towel or cotton swab works much better then a brush.

So I think I kind of figured out some ways to use these paints that I'm not sure contrast paints would replicate as well due to how they stain so quickly causing the highest peaks to be pretty strong colored. I bought the full spellcaster box with everything so I have the acrylic thinner (I think it's probably just regular acrylic medium) and so I decided to test out how thinning these down would go. I painted all the areas I wanted darkest with pure Insta Color Rage Brown (purple brown basically) then I did equal parts medium and Rage brown and cover the rest of the fur and let it sit for about 5 or so min to dry.



Then I took Ogre Brown straight from the pot, removed maybe half of what was on the brush so it didn't run, and painted it where I wanted the highlights and wow. It really covered well and built up over the bottom layer in a way I didn't expect. Since the shadow areas were still wet due to them being more recesses and pooling due to gravity I also was able to wet blend some transition areas and I think it looks great for maybe 10-12 min of work including drying times. I don't have the best camera setup and the lighting is a bit strong but this helps see how the coverage is. One of those much better in person things.



Lastly I did a second boar to see if I could replicate the effect as well as I watered down the highlight layer with one part water as well. It looks pretty good too. Maybe better then the first one I did. Doing this one out of spoiler as I think it looks pretty good and not everyone clicks those. Maybe once I get these done I can set up the light box and get a better camera for people but this is a very interesting way to paint as I've found contrast to work best going from brightest down to darkest (shrinking coverage area) in paint order works best but this is the opposite color wise but still using targeted coverage for the second layer. I'll have to try more things and textures as maybe I just got lucky with my color choices and the deep fur textures on these models.

That fur looks great!

I finally got let out of Customs jail a few days ago, and the package turned over to USPS. I live about four hours away from NYC. Instead of delivering my package finally, the goombas at the USPS sent it 1000 miles away to South Carolina, where it has sat for two days now. This is beyond ridiculous now.

I had an order once via amazon prime that did a full circle around the the country at least twice before arriving at my house. That was an amusing week an a half seeing where it arrived next.

That fur does look really cool.

Speaking about Scale75 and their Kickstarter for paints, they've launched a new KS project for a 10-volume set of painting guides. Any thoughts on that? Anybody have any first hand experience with any of their painting information? I do have many of their paints, so I was just curious.

The only book of theirs I've seen is their Easy Painting Process book which is just higher resolution photos of the included inserts with the paint sets.

From the samples given this looks much more detailed.

It's on the move again! To where the gods only know...

Meanwhile, on Scale75 books, the newer ones are much better. Easy Painting Processes was indeed just a compilation of paint set advice with a few additions; not that great. Steampunk and Painting Busts books were both much more comprehensive and useful; all original material.

The Kickstarter page now has some sample pages of what will be in the Minipedias, and a look at their tables of contents posted as well.