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This is just me venting a bit. I don't expect anything to come from this but it feels better having written and posted this.

But please, GW, give us Astra Militarum codex supplements for all the different named regiment types; Krieg, Steel Legions, Cadians etc. that are mentioned and have a major presence on the 40k stage.

I will admit that my main interest for this for the Warhammer 40k RPGs but maybe some Imperial Guard players would also appreciate it.

GW - please don't do this.

Make some more models for them though, that'd be great.

Yours,

The rest of the hobby

soviet13 wrote:
GW - please don't do this.

Make some more models for them though, that'd be great.

Yours,

The rest of the hobby

40k is not a hobby. It is a game made by GW that resides within the hobby known as wargaming and modeling.

I for one would like supplements for Guard, right after of course a decent codex release and new model lines and updates, joining a decent size boat of armies that require such for the edition such as Eldar.

It would be nice to have a generic guardsman box again, like these brave lads, pictured here as Necromunda's regiment:

While I too would really appreciate the regiments to be fleshed out more (names characters, more fluff) I would prefer this to happen in a single book. I don't think any of the regiments has enough material to really fill a book in its own and I hope they don't end up with as many special rules as Marines. So a maybe 40% thicker codex should be enough to contain substantial more fluff and one or two named characters for each known and a handful of new Regiments

I can far more easily play with random opponents with kitbashed kits, converted models and such, rather than with house rules (ESPECIALLY if I made them only for my army).

So, no. The rest of the hobby disagrees

 Pyroalchi wrote:
While I too would really appreciate the regiments to be fleshed out more (names characters, more fluff) I would prefer this to happen in a single book. I don't think any of the regiments has enough material to really fill a book in its own and I hope they don't end up with as many special rules as Marines. So a maybe 40% thicker codex should be enough to contain substantial more fluff and one or two named characters for each known and a handful of new Regiments

Catachans did and the book included rules for jungle fighting.

Absolutely fething not. It was already bad enough they appeased the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves whiners and we have a bloated codex with 10 supplements. Now you want the same thing for another codex?

Silly guard players.

Supplements aren't for NPC factions.

Play Marines or GTFO.

 vipoid wrote:
Silly guard players.

Supplements aren't for NPC factions.

Play Marines or GTFO.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Absolutely fething not. It was already bad enough they appeased the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves whiners and we have a bloated codex with 10 supplements. Now you want the same thing for another codex?

If they'd wanted to appease the BA, DA, DW & SW players - not whiners - they should've kept the fullblooded Codex for each of them, rather than this Supplement halfway house, which is the worst of both worlds.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Absolutely fething not. It was already bad enough they appeased the Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves whiners and we have a bloated codex with 10 supplements. Now you want the same thing for another codex?

This. Now I have the same amount of books (I have SW, DA, + generic SM armies) but two of them are useless without the 3rd.

Ehhh...
On the one hand, if supplements are the way GW is going, it would only be fair to give them to all factions.
On the other hand, I'd rather we not have any supplements at all. Also, I could easily see GW giving us one or two supplements, getting mountains of pushback, and cancelling the rest (leaving us half finished and other factions not touched to begin with). Even if all goes well, the sheer amount of bloat fairness would entail would likely be a detriment to the hobby.
On the other other hand, we already had a lot of that stuff back in the 3.5e/5e codices, and I desperately miss it. If GW were somewhat lazy and just copy and pasted that stuff over (doing the enough to make the rules applicable to 9e), we would have a 9e codex truly worth buying.
On the other other other hand, this would be the same GW that saw all the old regiment kits and damn near everything Forgeworld made rules for, and thought "Nah, we'll give 'em a copy-pasted 30k vehicle and an MRAP. Oh, and they can keep one (1) Infantry Squad from the regiments.". They've had years to work on updating or replacing any of the stuff we lost, and the most we've had to show for it are some one-off characters. I sincerely doubt GW would care enough to do the supplements justice.

Problem is GW have proved the core codex and supplements system works and makes me it easier to roll out models and rule books. They will be ok the hook for a long time now for not providing the same offering for other races or factions. In many instances you wouldn’t need to deliver many new models to accompany a new rule set.

Supplements for guard regiments, ork klans, hive fleets, why not?

Too easy to 3ed party. There is probably a higher chance of seeing electro priest and adeptus mechanicus sub sects getting extra faction rules, then IG getting them.

Unless GW has a whole new and wierd model lines hidden for IG somewhere.

Karol wrote:
Too easy to 3ed party. There is probably a higher chance of seeing electro priest and adeptus mechanicus sub sects getting extra faction rules, then IG getting them.

Unless GW has a whole new and wierd model lines hidden for IG somewhere.

Don't give them reason to squat. We all know they just love their TM.

guys chill out, just wait for 2025 for the new Astra-militarum codex like a good humble guardsman

Not really that relevant but I don't know why GW don't vastly expand their range and diversity of upgrade sprues for basically every faction, but especially Guard. It's pretty much DLC for your mini's. People LOVE buying DLC

Especially if they want to keep doing codex supplements. The two go hand in hand business wise

Cynista wrote:
Not really that relevant but I don't know why GW don't vastly expand their range and diversity of upgrade sprues for basically every faction, but especially Guard. It's pretty much DLC for your mini's. People LOVE buying DLC

Especially if they want to keep doing codex supplements. The two go hand in hand business wise

I agree, for every launch that sells well there’s still a group of players not buying the new release cos it doesn’t interest them. There needs to be some diversification, even if they only occasionally make a small amount stick of each upgrade sprue etc. If they advertise ltd stock it will sell, to eBay sellers if no one else.

I’m surprised GW aren’t better at producing in small batches.

The problem with this conversation is that GW does this with marines and THEN people form opinions about whether they should or shouldn't exist.

But at this point marines already have them, so any argument for other armies NOT to have them isn't some call for balance in the game as it is cutting off the chance that NON marine armies get the treatment that marines do.

So, for good or ill, I will ALWAYS advocate for other factions to get this treatment.

 Hellebore wrote:
The problem with this conversation is that GW does this with marines and THEN people form opinions about whether they should or shouldn't exist.

But at this point marines already have them, so any argument for other armies NOT to have them isn't some call for balance in the game as it is cutting off the chance that NON marine armies get the treatment that marines do.

So, for good or ill, I will ALWAYS advocate for other factions to get this treatment.

BUT BUT BUT there is just one problem...

 vipoid wrote:
Silly guard players.

Supplements aren't for NPC factions.

Play Marines or GTFO.

The last thing this game needs is more books that will be invalidated via FAQs and errata within 2 months.

I would rather not have to buy a “main faction” book and then a supplement. If the supplement is “necessary”, then just fold the core book into each supplement. Like, sell the Cadian book with the basic stuff in it, plus the special rules.

Copy / paste the majority of the book, bump up the Str stat of each Infantryman, and make the Catachan book, with their special rules.

Supplements are like DLC, right? It’s not like the base game couldn’t have included it. They just want to wring some more money out of you down the line, when you’re bored of what you have. So they ding you for two books, instead of one... and instead of putting all the DLC in the main book, you buy two, three, four pieces of DLC unless you wait for the Codex of the Year edition that comes with all the DLC expansions... right before the sequel is released.

I despise the concept of paid DLC (Free fixes for gameplay, or free content addition is cool by me). So I hope to not have to buy more than one Codex-equivalent rule source.

Gurkhal wrote:
This is just me venting a bit. I don't expect anything to come from this but it feels better having written and posted this.

But please, GW, give us Astra Militarum codex supplements for all the different named regiment types; Krieg, Steel Legions, Cadians etc. that are mentioned and have a major presence on the 40k stage.

I will admit that my main interest for this for the Warhammer 40k RPGs but maybe some Imperial Guard players would also appreciate it.

As a guard player, please don't. The last thing I need is more random books. I already hate what they've done with space marines, I dont want to deal with that for all my armies.

We really dont need a supplement codex, but we really really need a new astra-militarum codex, and hopefully this codex will have a bunch of cool stuff for different factions of guard

Yeah...no thanks on this. I'd rather one book that can cover everything and to have the diversity of the guard be represented with new kits for the varied regiments, rather than full blown supplement books per each regiment. You don't need a full supplement to give a couple pages of fluff, a special rule or two, and maybe 1 unique unit (named characters, Kasrkin, etc).

I'd love more depth for guard, but hate how much more it would cost. Though that said, everyone and their extended family would complain, only marines are allowed a million books and eating up years of release time book after book and kit after kit.

I think you have about as much chance of that as GW dialing back marine support.

Good to imagine though.

As a guard player, the more diversity and options we get the better, but, I don't think we're at a supplement level yet.

I'd love to see the different regiments get more unique rules and play styles in the codex, and then maybe down the line expand them into their own supplement

For now, I'd just be happy to get a 9th Codex that keeps the fun of The Greater Good supplement and the relatively decent internal balance of the 8th codex.

The supplements had nothing to do with actual faction diversity, and everything to do with commercial issues.

Space marines as a whole were too big of a faction in terms of player count to correctly manage staggered releases.

The supplements take that player base and split into into 10 full fledged factions, each of them with a player count similar to a chaos/xeno faction.

AM don't have issues with player base, so they will not receive supplements.

The reason behind the supplements is a simple one:
Product management. For a long time there would be complaints about things like minor stat differences in the different Marine books, or point differences, etc.

So we go back to the old model(which people whined about GW having gotten rid of in the first place in favor of dedicated codices for Space Wolves, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels!) of main book and supplements. Only real difference is that the supplements aren't $10 paperbacks.


Anyways, back on topic:
Guard supplements, if they happen? Shouldn't be Regiment specific. We don't have enough for any Regiment(maybe Cadians and Catachans?) to really make it work.

The books should be broader. Thematically, we could get a Fortress-world, Deathworld, and Auxilia.