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Seriously. Is this the new precedent for mounted characters?
Automatically Appended Next Post: We won't see them too often though... if we're talking a standard game with 25% lords, you'd have to be 2600+ points just to field one.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The fluff book is fantasticly well presented. It reminds me a lot of Tamurkhan in the quality of its writing and presentation, the way it outlines the events of the battles and what happens in between.
Hm I have to actually compliment GW's rules department on combined monster profile.. That's possiblythe only way to make mounted characters remotely playable. Perhaps they aren't due to points limits, but at least they aren't bottom-of-the-barrel terrible as a single model.
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32,000, 19,000, Renegades - 10,000 , 7,500,
thenoobbomb wrote: So, how come Vlad is back..? Pretty sure he died, and his ring was stolen..
The ring being stolen isn't necessarily going to stop Vlad from coming back. The guy got beheaded, staked, and burnt but still he came back from that. Not only did he come back he then returned the favor on the High Priest of Ulrik in Middenheim.
Isabella really was the only one that wouldn't be coming back since she crumbled to dust.
thenoobbomb wrote: So, how come Vlad is back..? Pretty sure he died, and his ring was stolen..
The ring being stolen isn't necessarily going to stop Vlad from coming back. The guy got beheaded, staked, and burnt but still he came back from that. Not only did he come back he then returned the favor on the High Priest of Ulrik in Middenheim.
Isabella really was the only one that wouldn't be coming back since she crumbled to dust.
He got back because of his ring. His ring was stolen (Mannfred got it), his heart was burned, his head chopped off and eyes stuffed with garlic, and then buried separately in Altdorf's Cathedral, beneath the Grand Theogonist.
nels1031 wrote: Man, I'm just skimming through the Return of Nagash novel and there are some genuinely surprising deaths of characters that have been around for years, decades even. It's like GW is creating a clean slate in the WHFB world.
So excited!
Care to give a rundown of who's dead, for those of us who actually like the background as it was and now have the "fun" and "excitement" of figuring out how much of our stuff has been written out?
Spoiler:
Here's what I got:
Volkmar's body is used as the host of Nagash.
Eltharion gets vaporized by Arkhan the Black.
The Fey Enchantress of Bretonnia gets her throat slit in the ritual to resurrect Nagash.
Heinrich Kemmler dies at the hands of Arkhan.
A Bretonnian lord, name that slips my mind.
Nothing too earth shattering, but still a lot for one novel that kicks off this event. Just getting started and some iconic characters have fallen
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Less iconic and more finecast looks like there having a clear out of stuff they don't want to make anymore.
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
SeanDrake wrote: Less iconic and more finecast looks like there having a clear out of stuff they don't want to make anymore.
Vlad and Krell are both in Finecast.. Krell's still there, and Vlad actually got brought back..
New plastic Mortarch kits for Vlad and Krell would be awesome, though. Maybe on foot?
Homebrew Imperial Guard: 1222nd Etrurian Lancers (Winged); Special Air-Assault Brigade (SAAB)
Homebrew Chaos: The Black Suns; A Medrengard Militia (think Iron Warriors-centric Blood Pact/Sons of Sek)
thenoobbomb wrote: I do love how Kemmler is dead, and Krell lives. It's been hinted at for a while that Krell isn't under Kemmler's control, as the latter likes to think
I'd love to see Krell's past as a champion of Khorne expanded upon, given Nagash' attempt at challenging the chaos gods. It always felt kind of funky that Khorne would allow one of his champions to be a puppet of another force.
There are actually waaay more "dead"/ killed major characters:
Spoiler:
The king of the brets is dead. Ariel the queen of wood elves is dying, and the everqueen is trying to help her. Araloth has gone missing after using some weird gem from his goddess. Kemmler isn't dead, just locked away somewhere. A high elf princess is now a vampire. Gelt, I think has been turned evil, or is just working with Vlad. Karl Franz isn't dead, but is badly wounded and is trying to rescue his griffon which is chained up, surronded by beasts. Crom got crushed by Valten. The scarab prince, Apophas?, died/ slashed changed sides, and Settra, well he gets "killed" by Nagash, but four voices tell him they need his help after he resurrects. Teclis is in league with someone who calls Teclis his "nephew", and Thorek Ironbrow is also dead.
I need to read it more to get more little info, but the fluff is epic and well worth getting, just for the bloodshed.
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Who needs Grey Knights when you've got Deathwing Terminators!
Terminators don't kill people, people controlling the terminators do!
As this is now out and in the wild -- subject to some stock issues here and there -- going to lock this thread now.
A new thread can be started for any follow up waves/later releases and of course the WFB boards can be sued to discuss the backgrounds, rules etc.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Renegades - 
Homebrew Imperial Guard: 1222nd Etrurian Lancers (Winged); Special Air-Assault Brigade (SAAB)
Homebrew Chaos: The Black Suns; A Medrengard Militia (think Iron Warriors-centric Blood Pact/Sons of Sek) 
-- going to lock this thread now.