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Looking really good. I only managed to order a few things last time as money is tight at the moment, but hopefully when I'm back working full time I will be able to order a whole load of minis to complete my loyalist forces.

   
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Love the Guardswomen with the flak armour. She will fit in magically with the old metal Cadian range. I think I may have to beef up that old platoon with a squad or 2

 
   
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They did a good job on the flak armor, it looks very feminine despite the fact flak armor conceals all curves. The Mordian style dress uniform is also a good choice because it shows curves.

The #1 problem with most 28mm heroic scale female figures is that heroic scale increases the relative size of the hands and feet. It isn't really that noticeable when standard gw male guardsmen are wearing a size 38 boot and have giant meaty hands, but that really throws people off when a female guardsman has those features. What really works in that batch of minis is the female guardsmen are part way betweem true scale and heroic.

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Agree with above 100%. Heroic scale looks off, but almost tolerable, on male sculpts - as it is grossly disproportionate, but mostly exaggerates features identified with masculinity (large hands, feet, broad shoulders, etc.). On female sculpts it presents much more significant issues.
Despite all that, Vic has somehow managed to make both men and women look damned good in heroic scale and is slowly convincing me that the concept is a legitimate artistic choice rather than just an unfortunate relic.

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I had never seen those pictures with the Valhallan looking fellow.

I admit, Death Korps have kind of absorbed my time and income as of late (I may begrudgingly admit Resin isn't the worst thing of all time), but I still want to replace GW's mediocre Cadians in my standard Guard at some point, and some not-Valhallans, well they'd do nicely pouring out of Chimeras. With some female sculpts to boot, they'd probably give me a monopoly on stylish Guard.

No rush on that front however, Cthulhu knows how long it'll be for me to finish my Korps.

In the meantime, I've been using the Tannenburgs I got from Vic a while ago as a killteam squad, they get a lot of attention, people are quite shocked by the sheer level of detail in metal models like that; they have glasses by god!


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Let's get the first ones out first, eh?
I imagine it should be relatively simple once the initial flak figures are done. Just a new torso since I imagine the legs, arms and heads can be recycled overall (or with minimal changes).

   
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From the newsletter that I got today, emphasis mine:

Hi, Its been along time coming but I have started work the much asked for female troops for the Galaxy's Finest range.
I have been requested many times to sculpt some female versions of my modular regiments that are non-sexualised, but still recognizable as females. The aim is for them to uniformed and equipped the same as their male comrades, making it possible to field completely mixed squads.
The two miniatures shown are still work in progress test sculpts. I always appreciate the great feedback from the Vic Minis community. So please feel free to contact me with comments or join the discussions on DakkaDakka or on Facebook. I will keep you updated with future developments.
This is a big project as it involves re-sculpting every part. I hope to have the first full resin squad available before the end of the year.
Below you can see these photographed alongside males dressed in similar uniforms that could be part of the same unit
Thanks for reading, Vic.


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 BrookM wrote:
Like I said, can't wait for the end of the year to wheel round, Raging Heroes screwed up, but Vic won't!

The second most successful miniature kickstarter and 2600 backers may disagree with you, but let's stay on topic.

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 Kroothawk wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Like I said, can't wait for the end of the year to wheel round, Raging Heroes screwed up, but Vic won't!

The second most successful miniature kickstarter and 2600 backers may disagree with you, but let's stay on topic.


Yeah, it's a stylistic difference. Insulting one or the other makes no sense. It's like the venom I read about heroic scale proportion figures in other threads that also has no purpose. Other than people taking the time to hate on GW and anyone who uses similar proportions. (which would include Vic).

   
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 Azazelx wrote:
 Kroothawk wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Like I said, can't wait for the end of the year to wheel round, Raging Heroes screwed up, but Vic won't!

The second most successful miniature kickstarter and 2600 backers may disagree with you, but let's stay on topic.


Yeah, it's a stylistic difference. Insulting one or the other makes no sense. It's like the venom I read about heroic scale proportion figures in other threads that also has no purpose. Other than people taking the time to hate on GW and anyone who uses similar proportions. (which would include Vic).


And more importantly, at least we know Vic's will "fit" with 40K.

Jury's still out on RH's stuff.

   
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 Alpharius wrote:

And more importantly, at least we know Vic's will "fit" with 40K.

Jury's still out on RH's stuff.

For serious. While there are tons of little company making "not 40k" stuff that looks good, nobody's fits with the 40k aesthetic quite like Vic's work does.

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 Brother SRM wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:

And more importantly, at least we know Vic's will "fit" with 40K.

Jury's still out on RH's stuff.

For serious. While there are tons of little company making "not 40k" stuff that looks good, nobody's fits with the 40k aesthetic quite like Vic's work does.
These two comments really, they'll go nicely with the veterans and Rough Riders I already built from her excellent bits.
   
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Moore, Ok.

 BrookM wrote:
 Brother SRM wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:

And more importantly, at least we know Vic's will "fit" with 40K.

Jury's still out on RH's stuff.

For serious. While there are tons of little company making "not 40k" stuff that looks good, nobody's fits with the 40k aesthetic quite like Vic's work does.
These two comments really, they'll go nicely with the veterans and Rough Riders I already built from her excellent bits.


The phrase "like a glove" comes to mind. I remember getting the FW Cadians w/ shotguns upgrade and seeing how small the torsos looked compared to the GW Cadian plastics. Her product was definitely made with lots of care and forethought!

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I'm interested in seeing how that turns out.

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 Alpharius wrote:

And more importantly, at least we know Vic's will "fit" with 40K.
Jury's still out on RH's stuff.


I imagine the RH stuff will be just fine as a self-contained force for 40k or Necro etc. If the figures are being mixed in with GW figures they may well stand out a bit, but let's be honest - they'll do so no more than McVey's SW, or Mantic's Corp, or Forge World's Elysians...

The main difference is that Vic's figures will fit more or less seamlessly in with the GW IG.

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 Azazelx wrote:

The main difference is that Vic's figures will fit perfectly in with the GW IG.


Corrected for you....

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Also, hopefully the VM stuff will be less cheesecake-y.

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 alarmingrick wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:

The main difference is that Vic's figures will fit perfectly in with the GW IG.


Corrected for you....


Nah, it won't be perfect. GW's IG sculpts (not counting FW) are mostly crap in comparison to Vic's.

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Melissia wrote:Also, hopefully the VM stuff will be less cheesecake-y.


I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Tannhauser42 wrote:
 alarmingrick wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:

The main difference is that Vic's figures will fit perfectly in with the GW IG.


Corrected for you....


Nah, it won't be perfect. GW's IG sculpts (not counting FW) are mostly crap in comparison to Vic's.


Touche'!

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I certainly hope so. VC has a better history in that regard at least.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Nah, it won't be perfect. GW's IG sculpts (not counting FW) are mostly crap in comparison to Vic's.

Hey guys, no more bashing any of the little companies... let's go back to our favorite punching bag, GW

In all seriousness, though, I think part of the demand for IG counts-as is that GW's sculpts are so dated for them (or expensive, a la Death Korgs of Kreig from FW). Add to that the utter lack of realistically proportioned female miniatures in wargaming, and you have a huge niche that Victoria Miniatures can fill here

And agreed with the no need to knock the way anybody else does things to praise vic. Her works stands on it's own merits!
   
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 Melissia wrote:
Also, hopefully the VM stuff will be less cheesecake-y.


I can't see vic's stuff being cheescakey. Vic has mentioned that she doesn't want that style.

If we do end up seeing cheesecake models, I have a feeling that she's either pulling an elaborate prank or has suffered a severe bump to the noggin.

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Moore, Ok.

 vic wrote:
Hi all thanks for all the great feedback, questions and suggestions. I will answer as many as I can soon, but I just have to comment on this one first. I honestly thought this was not serious, just some sort of joke. Assuming its serious I should clarify some points.
 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).


Thanks for your advice, but please remember these are heroic scale soldiers made for the battlefield. They are not barbie dolls, strippers, super models, play boy bunnies or RH miniatures. Therefore, why should their faces be more beautiful, bodies more slender, poses more feminine, their torsos narrowed and boobs bigger?
They already have smaller hands than my male sculpts.(in further refinements they may get smaller).
Future sculpts could well have more attitude, these are two samples of what will become a fully interchangeable modular range. I have started with fairly neutral miniatures to keep it simple at this stage.
There are dozens of companies making females to your specifications, I have no desire to mimic them.
If I need any references of how females carry themselves all I have to do is look in a mirror.


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 alarmingrick wrote:
 vic wrote:
Hi all thanks for all the great feedback, questions and suggestions. I will answer as many as I can soon, but I just have to comment on this one first. I honestly thought this was not serious, just some sort of joke. Assuming its serious I should clarify some points.
 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).


Thanks for your advice, but please remember these are heroic scale soldiers made for the battlefield. They are not barbie dolls, strippers, super models, play boy bunnies or RH miniatures. Therefore, why should their faces be more beautiful, bodies more slender, poses more feminine, their torsos narrowed and boobs bigger?
They already have smaller hands than my male sculpts.(in further refinements they may get smaller).
Future sculpts could well have more attitude, these are two samples of what will become a fully interchangeable modular range. I have started with fairly neutral miniatures to keep it simple at this stage.
There are dozens of companies making females to your specifications, I have no desire to mimic them.
If I need any references of how females carry themselves all I have to do is look in a mirror.


Here ya go Mel, incase you might have missed it! From the Boss directly.
I think she'll make magic, again.
Awesome, thanks.

Glad to see that there is at least one sculptor that takes the subject matter seriously.

Also, that was a horrible and obnoxious example of mansplaining by David, and he should be ashamed of himself for doing it.

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I have a question.

Is it possible to special order a batch of a specific part? Let's say there's a certain head, or a few figures that I like but don't want to buy 30 sets to get an adequate amount of them, can that be accommodated?

 
   
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I'd like to know as well! I might end up wanting to buy some bitz if there are some available.

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 Melissia wrote:

Glad to see that there is at least one sculptor that takes the subject matter seriously.
Also, that was a horrible and obnoxious example of mansplaining by David, and he should be ashamed of himself for doing it.


I'm not entirely sure that wasn't a troll post, so best leave it be, I think and just be happy that Vic is finally putting these together for us.

Vic has heads, arms, etc from her existing figures available as separate bits on her site, so I imagine that once these are in production something will be able to be done.

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