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... found this on the Millenium Gate forum.  No idea where they got it from:

 


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Very 2ed. It is like 40k is going backwards 2ed minis 2 ed overpowers.

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Foul Dwimmerlaik





Minneapolis, MN

I abhor feathers.
The head dreass isnt bad at all. I kinda like it, but the feathers are too reminiscent of  "Chief Wannahokaloogi" to me.

Not so hot on how GW likes to employ aesthetics of every single known terran race for their armies.

I am glad I am not using DA models. So much for the monastic look.

   
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Was it the chicken experience, Patrick?

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Wilmington DE

Wow. I have the old version of the guy on the right somewhere. Was going to make him into a statue.

How do you fit in a rhino with those things, anyway?

Oy, Dark Angels. You really are the Village People of 40k, aren't you?

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Brother Melchidael: Aye, but it doesn't seem to be working.

Brother Barrabas: You think you have it bad, I keep tripping on my purity seals!

War-Walker pilot Therathanlui'Athariel'Eldaron: (translated from the Eldar)Was Goodwin busy? No matter, these two poorly-sculpted mon-keigh will fall beneath my hooves! Khaine's rage is ejaculated upon my soul!!

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Infiltrating Moblot







Whatever, these guys are AWESOME. They''re not crying to the heavens and the sculpting is crisp and clean. I want one of each and I don't even play Dark Angels.

If this is the direction the Marine sculpts will be going, I'm all for it.

And besides, for all you haters if GW released miniatures in blister packs held by super fit surfer girls who could suck a golf ball down a hose you'd still say it should have come with two... so I suppsed it will be the wallets that vote actual data on whether these are nice sculpts or not.

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Minneapolis, MN

No, they are nice sculpts. I just really abhor the feathered injun look.

Not my cup of tea.

Sadly, the feathers are incorporated so deeply in those two sculpts, its not a simple matter of clipping them off and a little filing. That job is going to be tougher than should be to remove the offnsive avian parts.

because of that, its a "no" buy.

   
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Where are you getting injun? They have feathers on them. Blood Angels have blood drops on them and Space Wolves and teeth and claws. Are they wearing assless buckskin chaps or am I missing that? I see no warpaint. I see one feathered helmet and two sets of feathers hanging from weapons (one on each).

That does not chief sitting bull make.

You're entitled to your opinion dude, but calling these guys YMCA line members is a stretch in the sourpatch.

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Um, the Village People reference probably comes from the fact that they
are a mish mosh of ideas, and their dirty secret, if I know how the Rabbi
thinks.

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The feathers are really the least of their shortcomings. The pose is just too static for me. Very reminiscent of the 2nd ed "flat" sculpts, as Joe said.

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Would you rather they were waving their weapons and screaming to something slightly elevated to the left?

I'll keep demure.

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Some people like active poses. /shrug

But then you're right. We make fun of those, too.

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In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer

To each his own, I guess.

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Canada

They're pretty interesting, and well executed, but I don't really dig the cloak swung over his shoulder- it just doesn't look if he could be very active with a huge cloak balanced on one shoulder :p

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Posted By malfred on 11/19/2006 5:03 PM
Um, the Village People reference probably comes from the fact that they
are a mish mosh of ideas, and their dirty secret, if I know how the Rabbi
thinks.


Ahh, to know how the good Rabbi thinks, I have known him personally for lo these many years and still his inner workings are a void to me.

But his wife is hot


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For all your bravado, if the US Army decided to invade, Wisconsin is it?, in force supported by a heavy bombing campaign for the month before, weeks of shelling from battleships on Lake Superior, and a full tank thrust (crushing the cows beneath the treads), I don't think that your .22 is going to make much of a difference really... Asmodai (my new hero)


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Minneapolis, MN

Posted By Achilles on 11/19/2006 5:01 PM
Where are you getting injun? They have feathers on them. Blood Angels have blood drops on them and Space Wolves and teeth and claws. Are they wearing assless buckskin chaps or am I missing that? I see no warpaint. I see one feathered helmet and two sets of feathers hanging from weapons (one on each).

That does not chief sitting bull make.

You're entitled to your opinion dude, but calling these guys YMCA line members is a stretch in the sourpatch.

Whatever. As I said thrice, The feathers are so lame, I wouldnt even model them on your figs.

Just because I dont like the feather look doesnt mean the models suck

So does blood drops on blood angels make them vampires, or wolves stuff on space wolves make them lycanthropes?

Why yes. It does in fact make them vampires and lycanthropes, respectively. GW has basically done everything but outright admitting that it is infact the case. Your examples arent really helping your argument.


Take a chill pill and bask in your Hiawatha figs.

   
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Minneapolis, MN

Posted By Whitescar on 11/19/2006 5:46 PM
Posted By malfred on 11/19/2006 5:03 PM
Um, the Village People reference probably comes from the fact that they
are a mish mosh of ideas, and their dirty secret, if I know how the Rabbi
thinks.


Ahh, to know how the good Rabbi thinks, I have known him personally for lo these many years and still his inner workings are a void to me.

But his wife is hot

Shhh thats a secret. Now all the chillins are going to be gawking at Yair's bit o' fluff.

Posted By malfred on 11/19/2006 4:37 PM
Was it the chicken experience, Patrick?

The chickens are restless when the children are screaming....

   
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Cairo, Egypt

If you just said the feathers were because they were angels would it make you happier?

They are sort of universal symbols, without more stuff they don't really look too native american.

 
   
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Minneapolis, MN

Oh I uderstand that they are historically a part of dark angel gear. I dont begrudge them that.

Feathers are just lame in my not-so-very-humble-opinion. I may as well have a army that is made up of hot feather dancers if I wanted feathers poking out of them.

I am not the only one who dislikes the feathered intrigue of the mysterious dark angels of conundrums. It would be nice if the feathers were optional though. make them quite a bit more likely to sell to a wider audience.

   
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they are native Injun feathers as the original deathwing story shows. for us older players (damn it feels weird saying that) who remeber 2nd edition and the deathwing story the feathers will forever reming us of injuns. Cloud runner, two heads talking, weasel feirce and lame bear/

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I have to say I'm with the camp that is not overly impressed with these figures.  They look very much like a converted 2nd edition model.  Like someone else said, however, to each his own..

LIG
   
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They look like conversions. The one to the right is definately the old one with new stuff added.

Hope more old fools come to their senses and start giving you their money instead of those Union Jack Blood suckers...  
   
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The drinking halls of Fenris or South London as its sometimes called

oh yeah the models are ok if you like dress wearing fairies,
For Russ.

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Under the couch

Posted By carmachu
They look like conversions. The one to the right is definately the old one with new stuff added.

Nope, it's not the old model. It's a resculpt using the same ideas, but comparing the two, there's quite a lot of minor differences.

Posted By Drake Marcus
but I don't really dig the cloak swung over his shoulder- it just doesn't look if he could be very active with a huge cloak balanced on one shoulder

I suspect that's a deliberate attempt to emphasise what the Dark Angels are all about... The commanders standing around in more contemplative poses seems to suggest more of a restrained, deliberate approach to battle. I expect that when they get to Blood Angels, we'll see plenty of characters running full-pelt and screaming their heads off...

 
   
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Whatever. As I said thrice, The feathers are so lame, I wouldnt even model them on your figs.


Are you referring to the miniatures or my balls? This is getting confusing. If it's my balls... please don't talk about them on the internet. I save that stuff for the phone.

Just because I dont like the feather look doesnt mean the models suck

So does blood drops on blood angels make them vampires, or wolves stuff on space wolves make them lycanthropes?

Why yes. It does in fact make them vampires and lycanthropes, respectively. GW has basically done everything but outright admitting that it is infact the case. Your examples arent really helping your argument.


I'm making an argument? And here I thought I was successfully provoking one...


Take a chill pill and bask in your Hiawatha figs.


Again with my balls...

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Ok you got me. That was funny as hell.


   
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Given my nostagia for old models, I love the redone Captain. Lovley model.

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Personally I think these are a step in the right direction.

2 ed minis were great minis for the time and that for me was an era where 40k was really at its zenith stylistically and background wise.

The new eldar stuff is a great example of this. Stepping back to this period of having thicker codexes, and minatures with real character (and expressed now in a more advanced and technologically satisfying way than the early 90's) is a good thing and I'm all for it.

For me Dark Angels have always had this tribal feel with feathers, and it mixes well with the robed look. Deathwing being a perfect example. I disagree with the point that deathwing were only made indian because of that one short story. Its been heavily ingrained into DA background and character for along time, and I think its what makes Dark Angels different and what they are. It works better than some other chapters. For me Black Templars are more monks in space. I think what we all forget is that to a certain degree all space marines regardless of chapter are space faring warrior monks. They are after all the holy warriors made from the blessed gene seed of the "God" emperor of mankind.

Also Hellfury you can easily remove these feathers if you truly dislike them. Snip off the ones on the combi plasma and file down the other one on the crest helmeted marine. Imagination, good modeling skill, and a tiny bit of green stuff will easily remove that.

I think that we have to agree that these are a million times better that the awful tyranid hunter Ultramarines. And better than Calgars Honour Guard and the Black Templar Sword Brethern.

I say give them a chance, and I like the long robes and the opportunities they give the painter (for example embelms as can be seen in these pics).

 

 

   
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Madrid, Spain

just a brief note to confirm that those are new sculpts, and where presented yesterday in Games Day Spain (Barcelona)

I couldn't attend the show (600 km from Madrid to Barcelona) but my brother did go, and he told that those were the only Dark Angel new codex minis presented in the show... but the new codex was confirmed for march 07

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