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Pessimists all of you.

Pessimist? Me ?
Pure Truth told,this pheromone thing won't last forever.
Even if it makes you obedient and happy,time will come
and you wake up,illusions gone.
The one and only on a everlasting peacetour
is the Imperium: Rest in Peace for all (xeno,heretic,traitor)
and for free !!!

what do you mean it "won't last forever"? The pheromone thing is not something that a Tau can one day wake up and say, "Y'know, I'm gonna go against every fiber of my existence and not do what the Ethereals tell me today." It essentially works the same way as ants or bees, they are biologically compelled to follow the Ethereals whether they like it or not. As to Farsight he may have a genetic defect which blocks his pheromone receptors. When this happens to an ant or bee they are likewise either killed or driven out of the hive.

When he lost his Ethereal there was no more pheromone and maybe he somehow became a drone with ants and bee the drone has some independence.

As to Farsight he may have a genetic defect which blocks his pheromone receptors.

He doesn't need to be a mutant. His Ethereal got killed it battle and there were just no more pheromoens around to keep him all goody-two shoed

Okay,now we got to "ants with plasmaguns in space"
I know their allies (assault-??) are insects and act as swarm.
The idea of Tau controlled by pheromone is already nice,but
I think it works more like a pacificator-helm.This creates no
command direct in their head,more a general feeling.

One day they'll probably become imune to it, like humand do diseases, over time it'll just lose its effects and then all the Tau will think, "hey, you know what I don't want to be a negotiator any more, I want to fly a kite" ( or similar)

Well lets wait and see what GW decides to pull out of their a$$ on this one in the next codex

That probably won't happen for a while, a new Tau codex shouldn't even be in the thinking right now! Besides knowing GW they'll ruin it anyway. They'll say something like "farsight actually no longer exists, his suit just runs on auto pilot, and so can't listen to the Ethereals" or some S*** like that

haha sounds like GW to me

I like the idea that GW slipped into the codex, that it may not actually be Farsight anymore at all, but in fact would really be some other Tau who's just keeping the name alive. Sort of like the Dread Pirate Roberts! Wesley may not have been the real Dread Pirate Roberts, but that didn't stop him from being AWESOME!

If normal Tau are controlled by the Ethereals using a pheromone like the Queen Bee does then it won't be something that Tau can become Immune.

In the Codex it says that Farsight ignored calls to return home and went deeper into the area all Tau are banned from.

So the appearance (at least from what I gather from the codex) is that Farsight is working in the interests of the Tau empire in his own way whilst persueing his own vendetta against the orks.

I'd imagine, like others have said, that if an Ethereal came near him then he's be pulled back into the loop and would be unable to refuse.

Perhaps thats why he didn't return, he saw that he was being controlled by the Ethereals

then why haven't the Ethereals gone to get him back, it doesn't seem to hard if they can control tau like we've discussed. It seems stupid not to get him back if they can. Although him and Shadowsun might not get on to well: She'd be jealous of the big sword and suit...

just two options:

Farsight's weapon made him immune.

The Base of farsight is located in a banned region.
Etherals banned it, because they are in danger or
powerless there.

How would a region of space make them powerless? Just out of interest-any ideas? any at all?

A part of the environment could dim their abilities?
It is possible to nerf psykers with a anti-psi-shield,
Natural sources or the actions of lifeforms on these Planets
May produce the same effect.

Kinda like those creatures in Star Wars that cancel out the force.

In response to Gnas: That's not possible because a Crisis Battle Suit knows it's pilot and if it's not him it seals shut and incinerates whatever is inside.

thesuperiorninja wrote:Kinda like those creatures in Star Wars that cancel out the force.

In response to Gnas: That's not possible because a Crisis Battle Suit knows it's pilot and if it's not him it seals shut and incinerates whatever is inside.

But who's to say it's the same suit? The only thing special about his suit is the shield and the antenna, which I would imagine could be easily replicated or even just plain old transferred from the original suit. Further more, who's to say that the suit's own information couldn't be changed after the pilot dies? I'm certain that if a pilot were to die out of battle that they wouldn't always retire his armor it seems too wasteful in a society that seems to have a place for everything and everyone.


Also, what source has the whole incenerator thing? I would like to read up on that.

if thats true imagine what would happen if the Imperium found a way to set off the Incenerator! Lots of Roast Tau-mmmm-chicken flavour

The Etherals probably wouldn't be able to bring him back into the fold unless they caught him out of his suit and by surprise, because the pheramone is blocked by space and the suits and distance. So they could simply shoot the Etherals ship, or stay in his suit the whole time. (the reason for that being the tau are brainwashed from a young age to follow the orders of an Etheral. So its inconceivable too them too not follow. The pheramone just reinforces that. For a good example look up Japanese culture from 1900 until the end of WW II)

Whats farsight up to now anyway? I know hes Fortifying an area of space (no idea which one) but why? No one seems to really care about him, the Tau just ignore him and the Imperium have bigger problems?

maybe hes trying to make "The Farsight Heresy" (ref to Horus)

Tau got their own heresy
Farsight is related to shadowsun.
Where the girl expanded,he dug in.

The farsight-enclave is in the dex to
make tau more variable.
No etheral wants a commander with his own mind.

No they just don't want a war leader to have his own thoughts about life. They want him free thinking otherwise he sucks at being a war leader. But as soon as he starts preaching philosophy and policy its out the window for him.

(Though I think he was put in to dampen the good/niavity of the Tau in general. Nothing like a world weary cynical renegade to put a tough edge on things.)

Farsight is related to Shadowsun? I really need to get the tau codex, it might bring me up to speed with things slightly

Maybe he fights for his own greater good.

Or as One of my friends calls it: "The greater
okishness"

Could be, he's over 200 years old if its the same guy (Tau live on average to 40), he's probably got the 100th sword of Vaul (it was called the blade at dawn) which makes him a beast at CC (it would raise your skill to an Eldar God.) Or maybe he's so caught up hunting orks the anger of them makes him immune to the Etherals.

I think the Eldar would eb ticked off if it was their sword, they appear to have lost allt he others...

They may be but the Tau are so young they prob don't care so much, besides you know how the Eldar love playing with other people, more work on hunting Tau means less time bugging Eldar who would rather be left in peace with their Gardening.

it makes me think of the Eldar and Tau playing catch after you said that.