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The vast amount of Tau (Ethereals included) simply either kill or ignore anyone who goes against the doctrines of the Greater Good. Whether they kill or ignore is dependent on if you get in the way or not

yeh, but lets face it, the Greater good is a fantasy that'll never work, no matter how hard they try, eventually the Tau will turn in on themselves and destroy each other, much like Farsight has begun to do.
They should give up that idea and just enjoy what they've got, or take on some Orks in hand to hand and get better at it...or die!

Tau are meant as "nice guys"/"anime style suit lovers",
so they got a "black sheep"(farsight). He expierenced to
much to believe in greater good .can be in his own way
without advice from "the enlightened" leaders on Tau'n.

Nice guys? What gave you taht idea, was it the big guns, or the stubborn denial to beleive the way anyone else does? (ie Gods)

ever seen any negative background ?they have only
"loyal to greater good " with them?
They feel sorry for disbelievers?
i take them to clean and optimistic without any darkness in their behaviour.

Well whether or not there is "darkness" in their behaviour is stricktly a viewpoint sort of thing. One could see all the super advanced weaponry as "dark" behaviour whilst someone else see's their "Greater Good" Doctrines as well, good.

is farsight a worthy discussion subject, or is he a official
sanctioned army list entry,only different because GW wanted a sublist?

Is Oliver Twist an unfortunate orphan, or is he a figment of Dickens's imagination designed to elicit our sympathy?

Both, silly.

"Tau were forced to 'hyper evolve' by warpstorms that surrounded the planet"

It didn't force them to it simply allowed them to. Seeing as their homeworld was sheduled for exterminatus.

That said they did indeed evolve much faster when compared to humans. When the explorators found them the only caste they had was the fire caste. Yet within a few thousand years they had evolved into the air caste which has wings, the earth cast, which is kinda like a dwarf, and the water caste as well as the Fire Caste.

As to the thing about the greater good not working. It will indeed work among themsleves. The Ethereals release a pheramone from the diamond shaped glands in their foreheads that make any other tau caste obey their commands. Similar to a Termite or Ant queen. (who by the way do indeed practice perfect communism, which is what the tau actually are. Biologically adapted beings of communism.) So if Farsight ever came close to an ethereal, he would be unable to resist them.

Ratbarf wrote:"Tau were forced to 'hyper evolve' by warpstorms that surrounded the planet"

It didn't force them to it simply allowed them to. Seeing as their homeworld was sheduled for exterminatus.

That said they did indeed evolve much faster when compared to humans. When the explorators found them the only caste they had was the fire caste. Yet within a few thousand years they had evolved into the air caste which has wings, the earth cast, which is kinda like a dwarf, and the water caste as well as the Fire Caste.

As to the thing about the greater good not working. It will indeed work among themsleves. The Ethereals release a pheramone from the diamond shaped glands in their foreheads that make any other tau caste obey their commands. Similar to a Termite or Ant queen. (who by the way do indeed practice perfect communism, which is what the tau actually are. Biologically adapted beings of communism.) So if Farsight ever came close to an ethereal, he would be unable to resist them.

HA its not just me that talked about the gland in the Ethereals forehead. Damn blue fish head commie Bas*ard$

My point is though the Greater good doesn't work for other races though. Sooner or later the Tau will have to realise thisand abandon their galactic aims of it.

Why did only the Ethereals evolve this glad thing? And doesn't that mean the greater good is actually, 'what the Ethereals say it is' ie what they want, not really good for anyone else

That right in the Xeno book there was aonther alien group with the same gland don't have the book in front of my me.

I recall in the DoW: Dark Crusade campaign if you win with the Tau there is a bit of a dark ending, where the Tau keep the humans around because Tau are super nice. The dark bit is that the humans just stop having babies and dissappear after a bit, and it is suggested the Tau sterilize them to get rid of them.

kinda like those guys in SG-1

so etherals stink and the Tau obey? Tell everyone its only for his best and kill him silently ? The location of farsight is then to scary or danger for etherals,smells stronger than they do,because he lives free.

But if he lives free, why would he want to do so, surely he'd want revenge for being mind controled for so long, I know I would

Wehrkind wrote:I recall in the DoW: Dark Crusade campaign if you win with the Tau there is a bit of a dark ending, where the Tau keep the humans around because Tau are super nice. The dark bit is that the humans just stop having babies and dissappear after a bit, and it is suggested the Tau sterilize them to get rid of them.

The Tau are GOOD GUYS dammit. They realized the humans probably didn't want to stick around that place so they sent them to cultivate a new colonial world and everything was just fine and they all got along well afterwards.

Humans and Tau are not compatible in behaviour,they never get along in peace. Thought of the day "only a dead xenos is a good xenos" .

Agreed, to me the Tau are a litle like Nazis, beleiving their course of Action to be right, and fighting and purging all races in their way-but they like to not have to fight if they can help it, like appeasement before WW2. Although I guess the Imperium are kind of the same. So I struggle to see them as good guys, Farsight seems to follow a better version of the greater good than they do, and he doesn't really do much at all!

To point out I don't mean offense to anyone by mentioning Nazis, as some people seem to take offense to the merest mention of them.

By the way Kroot also work from Imperials (WHY?), Inquisition (mainly Ordo Xenos), Orks (when needed), Eldar (they don't really like them) and other human races and obviously the Tau empire.

"Humans and Tau are not compatible in behaviour,they never get along in peace. Thought of the day "only a dead xenos is a good xenos" ."

Hmm, I think you have forgotten that the tau are one of the most advanced technological species in the game. I don't think it would be a far cry for them to develop a device that lets other species react to the Etheral pheramone.

Though the pheramone thing is also their greatest strength and weakness. If the imperials could replicate the pheramone they could essentially control any tau that they can get with in smelling range of.

Also, seeing as the pheramone only works if it is actually smelled, when relying on distant contact the tau react the way they do most likely because they have had it ingrained into them since youth to obey etherals. So if an etheral treid to go to the farsight enclave where they have no etherals they could shoot at him from space without suffering from the biological response. (though this would prolly piss the Tau empire off supremely)

I didn't forget the technology,but it has served mankind not very well,to rely on technology.This "dark age of technology " made humans vulnerable when the C'tan made their move.
Some computerised little blue-greys stand no chance to fight against the ancient foe.To easy:hack those advanced devices and Tau are cheap prey.

Maybe, but the Imperial Machine spirit is the Void Dragon aka Machine God, whilst the Tau don't use that-they use their own Tech, without Worshiping it, which should give them some imunity from C'tan Tech take over, or in theory at least

the AdMech is a bunch of C'tan worshippers?? Nice try,but this won't save the Tau.
Tau use a great variety of computerized systems.Enough options to infiltrate for C'tan
Ever tried to stop a youngster to use his mobile phone 24 hours a day? Big deal even when youre in charge (daBOSS).
A Tau who never lives without computers cannot see any danger from technology,he is fixed to it, like those people with a phonebill about the cost of your last army.:(

Well, it may work out for them anyways, if you brainwash a human from birth they can't really think of doing anything else. As long as their education and growing environment is tightly controlled they should really have no problem assimilationg other races. (though the orks may take some subdueing...)

Humans are individuals,they will never follow anything at 100%.
Space marines went traitor at heresy and loyality is not obsequiosness.
No indoktrination prevents that some can turn renegade.
In their "greater good" is little room for citizen2nd class (i.e.gue'la)
Control humans ? Orks ?? Nids?

Kill orks and nids then brainwash humans, rather simple.

It'd take the Tau to long to Brainwash all the humans in the galaxy. And take them too long to take out all the Orks and Nids as well, in short, the Tau can't take over the Galaxy quickly enough!

Lets face it.Tau are newbies,to optimistic,to enthusiatic and have no idea of a galaxy of dangers.
They can be more expierienced in the future,if they drop "greater good for everyone" and stay
at home for eternity.Otherwise: bye,bye little greys.
The only Tau aware of reality is farsight.

1hadhq wrote: The only Tau aware of reality is farsight.

and thats why he leads my force