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frgsinwntr wrote:

targetawg wrote:

frgsinwntr wrote:Well... no Ed has put a TON of work into this and offers a TON of prize support to all the events on the circuit. If anything he is to be commended for the amazing job he's done. In fact I think we all owe him a beer!

but we can still constructively criticize this event for not being a "culminating tourny"

Who is Ed? Some of my prizes came from him then?

He is to be commended if thats the case

Ed's a Fantastic guy. AND yes he should get a big thank you.


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rodgers37 wrote:If you don't like it, don't go....
I just remembered this thread, and after going Really really enjoyed the weekend, was really fun.

if you don't like this thread, don't post.

What?
I'm just trying to say, that this is a nice tournament, the scoring system is different, and a bit wired... But overall it makes for a decent event, and i think a really nice tournament, but if you don't like it, you shouldn't go..

Agree with Mikhaila on all points.

Folks dismissing events or saying they're "not tournaments" based on those events not meeting their own preferred criteria is un-good. It's needlessly divisive and comes off as hostility/superiority, which I'm darn sure is not what MVBrandt intended.

frgsinwntr wrote:
Well... no Ed has put a TON of work into this and offers a TON of prize support to all the events on the circuit. If anything he is to be commended for the amazing job he's done. In fact I think we all owe him a beer!

but we can still constructively criticize this event for not being a "culminating tourny"

Constructive criticism always fine. That's a decent point for consideration, that it might be different type of tournament than many people played in to win tickets, or that many people would love to see a national championship. I think the title of this thread throws me off, and the accusation that TOS is not a tournament at all.

And I plan on drinking many beers with Ed at Adepticon. I think we should all be buying him beer out there.

mikhaila wrote:Constructive criticism always fine. That's a decent point for consideration, that it might be different type of tournament than many people played in to win tickets, or that many people would love to see a national championship. I think the title of this thread throws me off, and the accusation that TOS is not a tournament at all.

Remember that the original post had nothing to do with Vegas, and was a review of an actual event in the UK (which replaced the old UK GT).

I'll throw in a round. Lord knows Ed it'll take quite a few people buying rounds to make a dent in Ed

I think people would have preferred a more competitive format for the pinnacle end of the season event. That is where I think the problem is. It's nothing like the events attended by other players to get their tickets and worse it doesn't create a clear/distictive champion of the event/circuit. I'm sure in every other way this will be an amazing event.

I just think this is where they missed the boat. To be fair I don't think Ed had any choice in how this was going to go from the get go and couldn't change it if he wanted to. But I can't be sure about that either.

Janthkin wrote:

mikhaila wrote:Constructive criticism always fine. That's a decent point for consideration, that it might be different type of tournament than many people played in to win tickets, or that many people would love to see a national championship. I think the title of this thread throws me off, and the accusation that TOS is not a tournament at all.

Remember that the original post had nothing to do with Vegas, and was a review of an actual event in the UK (which replaced the old UK GT).

So it was.)

Not to beat a point to death, but the biggest issue is that myself (along with many others) would like to see an overall champion crowned. Even in another tournament, one could argue that variables prevented the absolute best from winning, but it would be a fair representation.

I really, really want to play with all the best players to see how I stack up. I am sure I will be meeting most of them anyway this August at the NOVA, so that should be fine. I just wish the NOVA was in Vegas!

I'm tentatively planning to attend both; which hopefully maximizes my odds.

i enjoyed the days , only played one mouth breather, and the person who won the most games won the event and all the people who tried to be tech and take sisters, deamon hunters, dark angels, necrons just took a battering and over all winner was space wolves. still think the way its is worked out is dog eggs, but in this case the correct guy won. (i would have demolished him like).
I do think they should get rid of the sportsman style awards, i tabled 3 of my 5 opponents, and kill point game was 1-vs 8 to me , and those people took such a savage beating that i was never going to get best gamer style awards. I feel there should be a seperate award for this like the painting.

Mannahnin wrote:I'm tentatively planning to attend both; which hopefully maximizes my odds.

This = +1


I think people miss the subtle point that the event will be COMPETITIVE, even if it isn't very good at telling you who the best is ... everyone going is a winner of a 40k tournament, which means varying levels of "still the best-ish from where they went." It may not give you the granularity of result you'll get at something like the NOVA Invitational, but it's going to be "fun" and there's booze and it's in Vegas.

I can understand deprioritizing it over certain other events, but I wouldn't be super quick to crap all over it ... if you qual'ed, and can afford to go, you should consider it seriously. Plus, Ed's a cool guy.

MVBrandt wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:I'm tentatively planning to attend both; which hopefully maximizes my odds.

This = +1


I think people miss the subtle point that the event will be COMPETITIVE, even if it isn't very good at telling you who the best is ... everyone going is a winner of a 40k tournament, which means varying levels of "still the best-ish from where they went." It may not give you the granularity of result you'll get at something like the NOVA Invitational, but it's going to be "fun" and there's booze and it's in Vegas.

I can understand deprioritizing it over certain other events, but I wouldn't be super quick to crap all over it ... if you qual'ed, and can afford to go, you should consider it seriously. Plus, Ed's a cool guy.

Maybe I'm reading something wrong, but as far as I know they plan on selling excess tickets to the general public after they see how many of the "invitees" decide to go. Maybe this is only in future years and not this year though.

Quote from GW at: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=5200003§ion=community&aId=14700053

You will be able to enter the 2012 North American Throne of Skulls Tournament in one of three ways:

For FREE by placing 1st in one of the Independent Tournaments
For FREE by placing 1st in one of the Ard Boyz Tournaments
By PURCHASING a ticket when they become available in January of 2012

Maybe that's even more of a reason to go in year 1 while it's still "exclusive"

Maybe that's even more of a reason to go in year 1 while it's still "exclusive"

And next year is Memphis, not Vegas. Substitute bar-b-qued ribs, and moonshine for glitter and gambling. I'm looking forward to a couple of nights in Memphis, but am happy to hit Vegas this year. (Grew up near Reno, gambling is meh, Barbeque is king.)

I have been on the fence about attending this but have decided that if I'm not in Florida that weekend for work I shall fly out and play. I've not been to Vegas for a few years so the warrants should all have vanished by now

I might even take a semi-serious army if I'm going up against people bringing their A game / A armies. It will make a change from the comedy stuff I've been using at recent events