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What is the mysterious force protecting/guiding the Tau Empire?
It's all an elaborate scheme by the Chaos gods
The C'Tan
The Old Ones
Elbow Grease (IE no supernatural influence, just hard work and chance)
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My friend who plays tau said that it said that the tau saved the impirums home planet when it was under attack from tyrnids.

 
   
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OH!!
I thought that ya meant the H.P. Lovecraft Old Ones, i.e. Culuthlu.

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They should make a chuck noris model

 
   
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It is the old ones.

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I've heard somewhere that the tau psychic powers are way the other directions than chaos. They even have 'pariah' like effects when it's about psychic powers.

yet it still could be possible. and my source could be wrong :p

the old ones, probably... yet considering the human race one of the last species influenced by them. Tau being in the stone age when they were first found by human ships.
so probably a very very late influnce or maybe humankind itself?

they saw the ships and maybe thought, hell yea why not strive for the stars.

so maybe even humans influenced them??

c'tan nah never, they only exstinguish races...

Sweat and hard work probably one of the most preferable.

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The United States as a nation is relatively young compared to others around the globe. Our "culture" is close to that of the Tau as well, assimilating peacefully when we can and forcing with military might when others are in the way of our "manifest destiny". (Note: this is not meant to become a political commentary, just noting similarities.) Technologically speaking it is hard to match the advances we have made. It isn't from some outside sources influencing the Tau, it's the "Tau" Empire itself and its practice of assimilation. America is at its best when we are embracing our internal different cultures. They are doing the same.

I voted for Chaos though because in the end Tzeentch is just crazy and convoluted like that.

Either that or they were bred as just a different flavor of food for the space bugs.

 
   
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Just some food for thought, gentlemen:

If the Tau hardly register a presence in the Warp, to what degree would the Chaos Gods even notice/be drawn to them? I'm gonna say it's by dint of luck, especially with regards to how their culture developed. I wouldn't be too miffed if it turned out that Eldar or Old Ones had done a little nudging, but much of it seems to be fortune.

Also, though my knowledge of Tau fluff is admittedly fuzzy, couldn't being trapped in that Warp storm have fudged the flow of time and/or had something to do with their lack of Warp presence? Also, think of how many monoplanetary empires would have had equal success had they been so fortunate.

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Priesmal wrote:The United States ....


Woah, be careful throwing that kind of opinion out into the internet... It's really likely to kick up a firestorm in most places. Most of your first paragraph is incredibly inflammatory to one viewpoint or another ("best when embracing different cultures" being the exception).

Sorry to go off topic - I just want to give a friendly heads-up that extremely rose-tinted geopolitical views are are not best used for an internet simile.


   
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^^

No it's not going ot start a flame storm, it is a excellent comparison.

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Mysterious Techpriest







^^^^Agreed. You'd have to be very jingoistic to take offense to that.

A renegade group of humans may also be responsible. There are still plenty of human enclaves outside of the Imperium, and one of them may have decided to toy with a developing xenos civilization. If an Imperium unfettered by techno-superstition engineered Space Marines and invented anti-gravity and plasma technology, a sufficiently advanced splinter group similarly unfettered may have done some meddling on T'au.

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Priesmal wrote:The United States as a nation is relatively young compared to others around the globe. Our "culture" is close to that of the Tau as well, assimilating peacefully when we can and forcing with military might when others are in the way of our "manifest destiny". (Note: this is not meant to become a political commentary, just noting similarities.) Technologically speaking it is hard to match the advances we have made. It isn't from some outside sources influencing the Tau, it's the "Tau" Empire itself and its practice of assimilation. America is at its best when we are embracing our internal different cultures. They are doing the same.

I voted for Chaos though because in the end Tzeentch is just crazy and convoluted like that.

Either that or they were bred as just a different flavor of food for the space bugs.


Russia matched it. Lol, but we sold it to them, and they copied us. All the un nations coppy each other. Weird isnt it?

 
   
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ImpGuardPanzies wrote:
Priesmal wrote:The United States as a nation is relatively young compared to others around the globe. Our "culture" is close to that of the Tau as well, assimilating peacefully when we can and forcing with military might when others are in the way of our "manifest destiny". (Note: this is not meant to become a political commentary, just noting similarities.) Technologically speaking it is hard to match the advances we have made. It isn't from some outside sources influencing the Tau, it's the "Tau" Empire itself and its practice of assimilation. America is at its best when we are embracing our internal different cultures. They are doing the same.

I voted for Chaos though because in the end Tzeentch is just crazy and convoluted like that.

Either that or they were bred as just a different flavor of food for the space bugs.


Russia matched it. Lol, but we sold it to them, and they copied us. All the un nations coppy each other. Weird isnt it?


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I think they are secretly scaven that paint themselves blue like smurfs

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Papaskittels wrote:I think they are secretly scaven that paint themselves blue like smurfs



explain

   
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erm i think hes referrin tothe skin colour rather than the armour however its also possibly aspersions cast against tau sanity, and anyhoo tau are fascists

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Atre wrote:
Priesmal wrote:The United States ....


Woah, be careful throwing that kind of opinion out into the internet... It's really likely to kick up a firestorm in most places. Most of your first paragraph is incredibly inflammatory to one viewpoint or another ("best when embracing different cultures" being the exception).

Sorry to go off topic - I just want to give a friendly heads-up that extremely rose-tinted geopolitical views are are not best used for an internet simile.

Don't worry. We're a mature group of forumers. We can handle it.
Also, isn't there a TV trope for exactly this?

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Indeed.

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DeepBeige wrote:I recently read through a Dakka Thread stating that the Tau obtained their technology unreasonably fast and that because of this they are illogical and (fluff wise) cheesy and overpowered. At first it just seemed like some hate at all yall Tau playas so I figured I'd just ignore it, but upon some degree of further thought I realized that it really is pretty true. It doesn't really make sense for the Tau to have advanced so rapidly, and honestly, it doesn't make much sense that they've managed to avoid any level of infighting and still have souls.

It is occasionally hinted at that the Ethereals receive their crazy mind control powers from some outside source. It is also unlikely that the Tau have just gotten too lucky to have developed such a sizeable and peaceful empire with just them and their buddies. I've heard it mentioned before that it's all possibly some elaborate scheme developed by Chaos, but I think that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I personally believe that the Tau have obtained their sudden unreasonable technological advancements and cold, logical, communist utopia with the aid and guiding of the Old Ones.

Their rise to power coincides with the return of the Necrons, the immortal enemies of the Old Ones. They have basically the same attitude towards the whole emotion thing that the Old Ones did, and they were magically protected by a warp storm for thousands of years just in time to avoid an exterminatus. Further note that warp storms rarely protect an area and instead cause some manner of chaotic sillyness.

Ahhh dude have you read the xenology book by black library they do autopsy reports deemed heresy on xeno subjects, and the one on a tau ethereal basically states that there society runs without infighting due to some kind of pheromone gland that the ethereal's possess which makes the lesser casts submit to them without question, it goes on to explain that this renders the ethereal's just as corrupt as the imperium as there isnt really any democracy there effectively subconsciously brainwashing others, and apparently some humans are susceptible to this pheromone as well. This combined with there incredibly quick technological growth / resistance to chaos / there relation to necrons smells of the old ones to me. Its probable that there another race the old ones seeded before they where wiped out to take on the necrons, perhaps even chaos at some point in the future as there pretty much bred to adhere to "the greater good" and are all but immune to warp influence.

Thoughts?

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That is possibly the most likely post for this topic i have seen yet

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What if the tau have slowly been evolving and saving their new found items to unleash in a massive suprise? they have been holding back every bit of it until they needed it and wanted to show the universe that they are still alive and a threat...

Mayby theres more, they just make themselfs appear 10 milleniums under what their current seceret technology is. Mayby they have weapons weve never heard of, masses of wmds that make a death strike missle look like a toothpick. Their just saving it until they can get the best use out of it, they want all the other armies to kill e.a other off some more, then theyll take over.

 
   
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That just seems op

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If anyone interfered with them it was the Eldar. I think the Eldar simply steered them in a direction and let the Tau do the work that allowed them (the Tau) to reach the tech level that they are at. Unlike the Imperium, the Tau actually research new technology instead of looking for millenia old items.

Had the Imperium bothered to advance their technology they would have easily outstripped everyone (except possibly the Eldar) and curbstomped the galaxy.

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1hadhq wrote:Chaos would generate more chaos worshippers, so rather unlikely as guiding hand behind them.

Who played with genetics and loved order?
Right, the old ones.
They may have deceased, but a last effort thing could happen still. Either the last of them or his/her assitants. You know the little helpers every aspiring ruler of the Galaxy has...
I'd vote for old ones / influenced by old ones.
Simply for the fact of using the warp to shield them, focusing on biology for control instead of psi/tech, creating Tau as uninformed minions still happy to serve,
placing Tau in a good starting position as their home is close to lots of other inhabitable worlds.


maybe the old ones are the ethereals???
also there wouldn'd be any worshippers if thay are being controlled be tzeenntch.
however they did get lucky with their home world with it being in a star cluster.

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maybe the old ones are the ethereals???


I like it. reminds me of the starwars series where the emperor of the republic was also leader of seperatists. Nifty idea! And logical

 
   
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DeepBeige wrote:I recently read through a Dakka Thread stating that the Tau obtained their technology unreasonably fast and that because of this they are illogical and (fluff wise) cheesy and overpowered. At first it just seemed like some hate at all yall Tau playas so I figured I'd just ignore it, but upon some degree of further thought I realized that it really is pretty true. It doesn't really make sense for the Tau to have advanced so rapidly, and honestly, it doesn't make much sense that they've managed to avoid any level of infighting and still have souls.

It is occasionally hinted at that the Ethereals receive their crazy mind control powers from some outside source. It is also unlikely that the Tau have just gotten too lucky to have developed such a sizeable and peaceful empire with just them and their buddies. I've heard it mentioned before that it's all possibly some elaborate scheme developed by Chaos, but I think that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I personally believe that the Tau have obtained their sudden unreasonable technological advancements and cold, logical, communist utopia with the aid and guiding of the Old Ones.

Their rise to power coincides with the return of the Necrons, the immortal enemies of the Old Ones. They have basically the same attitude towards the whole emotion thing that the Old Ones did, and they were magically protected by a warp storm for thousands of years just in time to avoid an exterminatus. Further note that warp storms rarely protect an area and instead cause some manner of chaotic sillyness.

Thoughts?
I have read the entire Tau codex and it mentioned the whole "they advanced rapidly thing" it says that the tau actually adapted rapidly to where said tribe of tau were...the ones in the mountains adapted and became messengers...and then became the air caste in the future...the hunters of the plains became the fire caste...and stuff like that...and they did have in fighting...but the etherals came outta no where and talked them into peace...after they stopped fighting each other and started working together for "the greater good" they started seeing big leaps in technological advancement...if you find the tau codex online and read all of the fluff...u will understand it better...sorry i am not explaining as well as i could. lol. hope i cleared something up for you...Happy Wargaming


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The codex, and other companion books (the Xenos book I believe) states that the Tau have had their biology artificially tampered with.

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It was Tzeench as he tampers with the fates of things for his own goals and is the master of time so he could have helped them get thier tech and summoned the warp storms.

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I belive the Tau's progress is all about silly evolution and silly chance of luck all designed to evolve a race as fast as possible without turning them grimdark. Though by the latest codex, it appears the Grimdark is creeping their way.
   
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It is SO eldar. They are dying, and they were killed by the warp more or less, so they fathered the tau, and made sure they would never feel the touch of the daemonic, they would suceed where the tau failed, and use technology as powerful as the eldar had, only different.
   
 
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