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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:43:51
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Fateweaver wrote:Perhaps the Feds just need to let parents do their own policing.
Ah hah.
Or is it too much to ask parents to actually be parents and not just breeders and ATM machines?
Sadly yes, the worst are the well-to-do families. I look at my friends and see that working class kids tend to have parents that are more involved in their lives. Is there a chance that their kid will drink before turning 21, yes but the parent will at least make sure the kid avoids doing anything stupid after that point. Will they smoke pot, maybe but again the parents will step in and take of their kid to help prevent them from doing it again or to prevent them from doing something to hurt another. The well-to-do parents let their kids go off and do whatever they want. The kids I know that live in a well-to-do gated community will go for walks at 11 o' clock at night because they think the neighborhood is safe. Those same kids do drugs, drink, have had multiple sex partners, oh and they just got into their junior year of high school. Makes me fething sick.
And because you continue to berate me, you misspelled the following Warboss(including the small portion I quoted);
1)compensation
2)compensate
3)whether
4)were(not where)
5)going to(not 'gonna')
6)since
7)couldn't
8)referring
9)seizure
10)seize
11) Typically numbers lower than 11 are spelled out in a sentence, i.e) two.
You're welcome for the spelling tips by the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:44:00
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Monster Rain wrote:I think where you went wrong was saying that you wrote it in you OP and hadn't
In my OP I said that the FBI was using the links as reasons to get search and siezure warrants I made no mention that they where taking computers given that it's common sense given the topic of the discussion, this is also what I was referancing when I asked him if I haden't already said that (which I've already pointed out). So I didn't go wrong, he missunderstood what I was asking as have you.
and to this casual observer you were kind of being unnecessarily rude in that post and also in this last one.
Asking someone if they wern't just repeating what had already been said isn't being rude, the tone and manner in which he responded was rude and I replied with sarcasm.
You should just apologize and cut your losses.
This won't be happening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:48:02
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:Monster Rain wrote:I think where you went wrong was saying that you wrote it in you OP and hadn't
In my OP I said that the FBI was using the links as reasons to get search and siezure warrants I made no mention that they where taking computers given that it's common sense given the topic of the discussion, this is also what I was referancing when I asked him if I haden't already said that (which I've already pointed out). So I didn't go wrong, he missunderstood what I was asking as have you.
and to this casual observer you were kind of being unnecessarily rude in that post and also in this last one.
Asking someone if they wern't just repeating what had already been said isn't being rude, the tone and manner in which he responded was rude and I replied with sarcasm.
You should just apologize and cut your losses.
This won't be happening.
1) Poor puncuation.(...seizure warrants. I made...)
2) were
3) referencing
4) hadn't
5) misunderstood
6) weren't
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:51:41
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:In my OP I said that the FBI was using the links as reasons to get search and siezure warrants I made no mention that they where taking computers given that it's common sense given the topic of the discussion, this is also what I was referancing when I asked him if I haden't already said that (which I've already pointed out). So I didn't go wrong, he missunderstood what I was asking as have you.
I haven't misunderstood, but given your grammar and strange sentence structure it isn't outside the realm of possibility that someone might have difficulty reading some of your wordier posts. Also, even if you think something is "common sense" the classier thing to do would be to be gracious about someone misunderstanding something you said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:53:39
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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ChrisWWII wrote:halonachos wrote:If they check the computer and there is no child porn the guy won't go to jail. If he has child porn on his computer or in his house then he will go to jail, I fail to see how an innocent person will go to jail.
But how long will they be 'borrowing' my computer to look through it? How will this investigationa ffect my life? Just because someone doesn't go to jail, doesn't mean they don't get hurt by it.
They will get hurt by it and that aspect of this issue does indeed stink. However, I believe that this is one of those rare exceptions where 'innocent before proven guilty' actually applies. The warrant should be carried out as quietly as possible to prevent damage to the alleged pedophile's reputation and the combing of the hard drive should be done as quickly as possible to decrease the amount of infringement upon the alleged pedophile's work and life.
Once we find out that the person is a pedophile then we should put him up in stocks and pelt him with metal covered arrowheads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:05:42
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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halonachos wrote:Fateweaver wrote:Perhaps the Feds just need to let parents do their own policing.
Ah hah.
Or is it too much to ask parents to actually be parents and not just breeders and ATM machines?
Sadly yes, the worst are the well-to-do families. I look at my friends and see that working class kids tend to have parents that are more involved in their lives. Is there a chance that their kid will drink before turning 21, yes but the parent will at least make sure the kid avoids doing anything stupid after that point. Will they smoke pot, maybe but again the parents will step in and take of their kid to help prevent them from doing it again or to prevent them from doing something to hurt another. The well-to-do parents let their kids go off and do whatever they want. The kids I know that live in a well-to-do gated community will go for walks at 11 o' clock at night because they think the neighborhood is safe. Those same kids do drugs, drink, have had multiple sex partners, oh and they just got into their junior year of high school. Makes me fething sick.
And because you continue to berate me, you misspelled the following Warboss(including the small portion I quoted);
1)compensation
2)compensate
3)whether
4)were(not where)
5)going to(not 'gonna')
6)since
7)couldn't
8)referring
9)seizure
10)seize
11) Typically numbers lower than 11 are spelled out in a sentence, i.e) two.
You're welcome for the spelling tips by the way.
Then it should still be on the parents to be actual parents. Yes, sometimes it takes both parents working 60+ hours per week to make ends meet but their are VERY easy ways to restrict children and their access to the internet. 1) Don't buy them their own personal desktop or laptop (not especially at 12 years old. A 12yo doesn't need his or her laptop). 2) Make sure the family PC has any site blocked, require administrator rights to do anything beyond booting up (ie, 12yo anna can't install YM or Skype or anything else so long as she can't log in as admin).
Most teen girls 14-18 view 30+ year old men who hit on them as "creepers". The ones that fall in love with men that age have issues probably relating to crappy parenting.
One of my buddies has 4 kids, 2 oldest are 12. They don't have any Messenger programs installed on their "homework" laptop and all adult sights are cyber-nannied. The only thing they can do is play kids games on it and homework.
Child molesters sicken me but parents who don't every try to parent sicken me even more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:07:15
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Monster Rain wrote:Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:In my OP I said that the FBI was using the links as reasons to get search and siezure warrants I made no mention that they where taking computers given that it's common sense given the topic of the discussion, this is also what I was referancing when I asked him if I haden't already said that (which I've already pointed out). So I didn't go wrong, he missunderstood what I was asking as have you.
I haven't misunderstood, but given your grammar and strange sentence structure it isn't outside the realm of possibility that someone might have difficulty reading some of your wordier posts. Also, even if you think something is "common sense" the classier thing to do would be to be gracious about someone misunderstanding something you said.
If you didn't understand then why was it you said that where I went wrong was for saying something that in fact I didn't say in the context that you seem to think when I simply asked a question and he was the one who responded in a rude manner.
In every thread I have ever posted in on every single website I've been a member of not once has anyone been unable to understand what I am saying do to grammar and sentence structure. I don't see how it would be any differant now and if it is it isn't my problem because everyone else understands it just fine.
And that "classier thing" was exactly what I was going to do before he answered in the manner that he did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:30:32
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:And that "classier thing" was exactly what I was going to do before he answered in the manner that he did.
Boy if I had a penny for everytime I heard that particular phrase.
" I was going to do X before he did Y" typically means you weren't going to do 'X' but just wanted a cheap way to make the other guy look bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:39:06
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Emperors Faithful wrote:How long can it take for them to give it a quick check? Not a full-scale investigation, just going through the hard-drive?
It took Steve Jackson Games months to get their computers back after a cyber bust. They were 100% innocent, but their business suffered a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:46:06
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Kilkrazy wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:How long can it take for them to give it a quick check? Not a full-scale investigation, just going through the hard-drive?
It took Steve Jackson Games months to get their computers back after a cyber bust. They were 100% innocent, but their business suffered a lot.
That's multiple computers though so the amount of information they had to go through is incredible. Add to that the fact that all of the computers counted as evidence means that even if half of the computers were screened they could not give the company those computers back. What were they searching for though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 07:08:02
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 07:36:37
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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While they took multiple computers from Steve Jackson Games, the size of a hard disk in those days was under 1,000th of what is common now, so the amount of data was actually fairly small.
Anyway, the authorities didn't bother examining the evidence. They just took all the computers and sat on them for months, before grudgingly being forced to give them back after enormous legal fees had been spent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 11:59:40
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Monster Rain wrote:I'm pretty sure there's nothing someone could say to me that would get me to go to what I believe is a 12 year old girl's house to have sex with her.
If you're entrapped by that, you kind of deserve to be. 
Exactly. Instead of their expected victim, the house should be full of soccer moms, with pliers...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 16:14:31
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Kilkrazy wrote:While they took multiple computers from Steve Jackson Games, the size of a hard disk in those days was under 1,000th of what is common now, so the amount of data was actually fairly small.
Anyway, the authorities didn't bother examining the evidence. They just took all the computers and sat on them for months, before grudgingly being forced to give them back after enormous legal fees had been spent.
Aside from not examining the evidence, the small memory size means that the FBI didn't have the large memory size that we have today either.
So hopefully anybody working in an office doesn't have a cowroker who clicks on one of those links. Automatically Appended Next Post: Frazzled wrote:Monster Rain wrote:I'm pretty sure there's nothing someone could say to me that would get me to go to what I believe is a 12 year old girl's house to have sex with her.
If you're entrapped by that, you kind of deserve to be. 
Exactly. Instead of their expected victim, the house should be full of soccer moms, with pliers...
...and turtle wax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:24:50
Subject: FBI baits web with Child Porn "honey pots"
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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I don't think the FBI should do that,maybe put more effort into finding the uploaders and stopping it at the source.
I mean the real victims are the children,even if they stopped people looking at it,a child was still abused.
But this is a really touchy topic.
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