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4th Edition, after play testing it. Feels more like a card game then a roleplaying system. Also, because Wizard of the coast dismantled Faerun to mesh with the new casting system and make room for the new races released for Fourth edition.

That is why I do not play it.

Pathfinder took 3.5 and fixed several things. The way Pathfinder restructured the core classes, makes it enjoyable once again to play just the core classes without the need to jump into a prestige class. (which was not a bad system either).

The CMB/CMD is a nice way to smooth out and streamline grapple and other perceived combat maneuvers.

However, as everyone says, you play what you like.

In truth, I think I enjoy Dark Heresy more then I enjoy Pathfinder.

sorry if people were offended by the feth 4ed, but feth 4ed.

pretre wrote:[I didn't say you were judging others; I was talking in general. I did, however, say that you injected a lot of criticism of a game into a thread about which version of a game someone plays. It was unnecessary. Why did you need to tear down one system in order to tell us what you are playing? (Which you didn't even do in your post.)

Next time, just tell us why you like Pathfinder or 3E so much and why you enjoy playing it. Don't come in and tell us why you hate 4E so much.

Because some of my groupmates love 4th edition that is what I am stuck playing and why I am commenting on it. I don't have a whole lot of nice things to say about it. I play it because I am not the lord master of my gaming group and others get to choose the games we play too. I'd rather be back playing 2nd ediiton if I had my druthers, but at the moment I don't. Everyone is hooked on the "number of encounters we get through in a given session" and complain if we don't meet their expectations. Meanwhile I'm trying to have fun with my friends and interject as much roleplaying into the sessions as I can, but it keeps coming back to number of encounters...sigh...I might consider running 3.5 at some point. Right now, though, my best defense is getting my latest Call of Cthulhu and Shadowrun campaigns ready to go so that I can interject something different back into the mix.

Skriker

Pathfinder. Great game.

I was also a fan of HackMaster 4th edition, which was basically Advanced D&D with options and humor added.

Very lethal game.

Comintern wrote:sorry if people were offended by the feth 4ed, but feth 4ed.

So, essentially, you played one or two games of a new system you weren't overly familiar with than compared it to a system you had been playing for years and didn't find it as engaging? I have to say I am shocked.

Hey - 15 people voted for AD&D (i.e., 1st edition).

Aside from me - who are you?

PM me and we'll see where it goes from there...

Thanks!