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CSM are more than just a bunch of possessed.

UM fan N°1 will give us CSM that want to be UM.
And why?
.............because they have to steal geneseed and most of it will be UM flavored one......
thus slowly turning them into "lost sons of rowboat" and the hint on imperium secundus , the secret subtitle of codex astartes ,
shall be all I can reveal to you.

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:He's already a heretic...
Mat Ward is actually a CSM fan.
Soon he will unveil the new Codex and doom will be brought to those of the Impeial Creed.

CSM fan?
Yeah, Draigo go trough the Warp raping Chaos Daemons and such is representation of his CSM fanbase...
We already know that he has a "thing" for Ultramarines...

You think he has a 'thing' for Ultramarines?
You think Draigo's fluff was supposed to be him being awesome?
Wait until you see Mat's CSM codex...
It will rock your world.

But he is doing the Black Templars... and probably Tau...

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:He's already a heretic...
Mat Ward is actually a CSM fan.
Soon he will unveil the new Codex and doom will be brought to those of the Impeial Creed.

CSM fan?
Yeah, Draigo go trough the Warp raping Chaos Daemons and such is representation of his CSM fanbase...
We already know that he has a "thing" for Ultramarines...

You think he has a 'thing' for Ultramarines?
You think Draigo's fluff was supposed to be him being awesome?
Wait until you see Mat's CSM codex...
It will rock your world.

But he is doing the Black Templars... and probably Tau...

Yeah they will both be chas aligned in the new books...

purplefood wrote:
Yeah they will both be chas aligned in the new books...

Now that we cleared that out...
Any new thought about OP?

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:
Yeah they will both be chaos aligned in the new books...

Now that we cleared that out...
Any new thought about OP?

It should be pretty damn obvious why no one has attacked Sol since Horus did it...
It's not about chances of success but more to do with the fact that if they were successful GW would have a big problem with the resulting chaos...

purplefood wrote:
It should be pretty damn obvious why no one has attacked Sol since Horus did it...
It's not about chances of success but more to do with the fact that if they were successful GW would have a big problem with the resulting chaos...

I think it is more of result - bad guys never win...EVER...

While the Navy is protecting the outer colonies, who is protecting Earth?

The question is rather why anybody should attack Terra:

Necrons- Nothing on it except more life vermin. If you were talking about Mars....

Dark Eldar-too heavily defended and doesn't fit their raid MO.

Tau-How are they going to get there? Even when they do, they have no particular motivation for attacking Terra with all of their other priorities.

Tyranids- Terra doesn't hold any specific meaning for them other than more munchies

Eldar- who knows what they're thinking? But seeing how as they use the Imperium as a buffer, why would they want to cripple it?

Orks-not organized enough to see the long journey through

Chaos- The ONLY faction who actually wants to attack Terra, can't get past Cadia. Fail, Abaddon, fail to the max.

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:
It should be pretty damn obvious why no one has attacked Sol since Horus did it...
It's not about chances of success but more to do with the fact that if they were successful GW would have a big problem with the resulting chaos...

I think it is more of result - bad guys never win...EVER...

Apparently you've never seen a foriegn movie ... bad guys can actually win.

Grey elder wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:
It should be pretty damn obvious why no one has attacked Sol since Horus did it...
It's not about chances of success but more to do with the fact that if they were successful GW would have a big problem with the resulting chaos...

I think it is more of result - bad guys never win...EVER...

Apparently you've never seen a foriegn movie ... bad guys can actually win.

In this case Imperium = Humanity = Human. And there are 4 universal rules for Humans in every fiction:

1. Humans must SUCK ( being the weakest of all other races. Both psychically, mentally and sometimes technologically ).
2. Humans must always use inferior weapon to fight against advanced enemies ( hence, Lasgun ), against primitive ones they always must be butchered ( Starship Troopers ).
3. Humans must always have a leader who will lead them until the end, and who will be quite unbetable and being able to manage in every second-breaking situation ( Master Chief, Emperor of Mankind, Shepard ).
4. Most important rule: HUMANS ALWAYS WIN. ALWAYS. Due to heroic actions of their hero ( see rule 3. ) or some cunning tactical thinking that invole a gakload of men, armor and ship throwed at the enemy.

So in 40k case, Chaos can't win - ever...

Fething hoomies

Dey Cheatses


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Don't forget the ludicrously OP, unkillable super-humans that humanity always gets issued too..

Spartans, Space Marines, Space Marines (the non-gw ones ) etc..

carbonpillow wrote:Tyranids- Terra doesn't hold any specific meaning for them other than more munchies

Only Leviathan is heading for Terra, the Tyranids are attracted to the Astronomicon.

Psienesis wrote:An Ork Waaagh would first have to travel from whatever system they originate in, like, say, the 'Undred 'Undred Teef of the Koronus Expanse, travel all through space to the Sol system, most likely encountering stiff resistance along the way, remain focused on the ultimate goal, not suffer any significant internal strife, and then attack the most heavily-defended system in Imperial space.

Not gonna happen.

Not to mention defeat the HUNDREDS of chapters that would respond to the distrss call.

Not to mention that Ork Waaaaghs usually rely on travelling aboard space hulks and using their erratic warp jumps to get anywhere.

Orks can sort of direct their jumps, but it is normally "Pres dat butten, *zzzoorp. Oi, dis aint Armageddon, wez at Cadia! o'well, crumpins just az good ere az at Armageddon"

TechMarine1 wrote:

Psienesis wrote:An Ork Waaagh would first have to travel from whatever system they originate in, like, say, the 'Undred 'Undred Teef of the Koronus Expanse, travel all through space to the Sol system, most likely encountering stiff resistance along the way, remain focused on the ultimate goal, not suffer any significant internal strife, and then attack the most heavily-defended system in Imperial space.

Not gonna happen.

Not to mention defeat the HUNDREDS of chapters that would respond to the distrss call.

They would answer, but it would take a while to get there. Warp travel is far from instant and far from safe. Sometimes it takes decades or centuries to get from point A to point B.

Also they'd have to abandon every non-sol system imperial holding to destruction to all come zooming over to Terra. The edges of the empire are embattled enough already without reducing the protection. They might send a part of their force, but they'd likely not just all pack up and head terra-wards.

I can see a huge ork WAAAGH travelling across the galaxy and happening across the Sol system en route, as that doesn't need much planning and organisation, but a deliberate attack on Terra and only Terra, probably not. As mentioned above they would probably pop up at Cadia instead and call it good

Maybe a Waaaaaaaaagh would arrive at Earth by aksident.

Give everyone a shock.

Maybe an invasion of one very very startled Mekboy might happen after a Shokk Attack incident Granted he wouldn't last too long, but it would eb funny as hell if he popped up right next to the golden throne, and had the access plate off and his legs sticking out of the mechanism before anyone could drag him out, protesting...

He might fix it.

He probably would , but would be killed for the heresy of touching the Throne and being Xeno scum even if he did get it running again

That would be the irony of the age, that the IOM is reliant on a piece of cobbled together ork tech to keep going

The way I see it, there would need to be a combined attack by multiple forces. The only way this could happen would be several factions happening to attack all at once. Or at least several distracting forces on the outskirts. So Leviathian attacks Macragge (again) and ties up the Ultras, and maybe another chapter who come to help. CSM launch a crusade and tie up Cadia. The Dark Eldar and Necrons both seperately attack different planets in the Sol system. The Orks, seeing that they are missing out on all the fun, gather a Waagh of unprecedented size. So while the Imperium has their hands (relatively) full with all of these schenanigans, 1 (or all 4) of the chaos Gods launches a massive attack into the Sol system.

And the Tau...right...

So its highly unlikely, but it would probably take something of that magnitude to have any likely hood of being successful.

Imperial Fanboyism aside it would not take every other faction acting in concert to take out one system, no matter how tooled up it might be. Several forces from the same faction, possibly (several different waaghs, hivefleets, whatever..).

It would be a very very rough slog for any one faction to attack the heart of the IOM and win, but it would be doable if any of the factions was willing to commit enough force to the effort.

The same goes for the IOM wiping any of the factions off the map.

None of the factions have enough uncommitted, available forces to justify the move, as they are busy on other fronts/still asleep/not organised enough to completely destroy another faction etc.. If one of the factions could gather all of its forces at once to take out another faction exclusively without it being aware of the move (unlikely) it might be possible, but that would leave their territory easy pickings for other factions,and they'd likely be so depleted by the effort that they'd collapse or be destroyed afterward.

The only playable faction to completely destroy another playable faction was the squats being eaten by the nids, and look at the crapstorm that stirred up