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KingCracker wrote:Well if you do, Ill back ya up, because I personally LOVE the first SAW. The only thing I dont like about it, is now the secret is out there, it was that dude on the floor the whole fething time. Good flick. But yea, the rest? Pretty bad movies

The flaw of the epic plot twist. Once it happens that's it. Game ova man. Game ova. The cat can't be put back into the bag. It's a shame but thems the raps.

What I really hate about the subsequent films though, is first: the utterly senseless violence pretending it's as a mysterious thriller. (Saw II in particular is much more like a generic slasher film without the exploitation). Second, their attempts to recreate that huge "OMG!" twist. That's just not something anyone but the very best writers can pull off twice.

I agree completely, and oddly enough I hate the 2nd one the most. It makes NO sense at all. But yea, just random OH MY GOD OVERLY CLEVER KILLING MECHANISM!!!!AAAHHHhhh!!!1hh1!HH!H!! *garggle garggle dead dead* But wait.... heres the twist...that killer, IS DEAD!! MWAHAHAHAAAa

oops.

ineptus astartes wrote: oops.

This is spam, bro.

You should stop it.

LordofHats wrote:I might catch flak for this, but I actually thought the first Saw was a really freaky movie. And that Jigsaw himself was a really freaky killer. You know, before they started milking it and it descended into a senseless gore fest?

I only ever watched the first Saw movie.

I learned my lesson from countless other horror franchises; the sequels aren't usually very special. I usually just catch them on cable years down the road.

Sorry about the spam, I was ninja'd three times.

Very cool villain.

"I'll kill you with my teacup...."

jp400 wrote:

"I'll kill you with my teacup...."

RIDDICK IS NOT A VILLAIN!!!

He is the bad guy that everybody loves. A Villain with a heart if you will.

I have to agree with jp here. After all, Miles Quaritch for example, is a 'bad guy' but also goes on the list of badass colonels in films that should have won.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Very cool villain.

GAH! I cant believe I forgot Zorg! He was my avatar for a lil while last years. Good show MGS good show


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ineptus astartes wrote:Sorry about the spam, I was ninja'd three times.

ineptus astartes wrote: oops.

Curious what your next forum rank or something? Sheesh

Rutger Huaer one again...This time as the vicious terrorist " Wulfgar" in 1981's " Nighthawks."

KingCracker wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Very cool villain.

I can't say I know who he is, but that hair looks like a wig coming from inside his skull.

ineptus astartes wrote: oops.

Curious what your next forum rank or something? Sheesh

it takes almost 500 posts to change ranks now. So, no.

Riddick was NOT a villain in Chronicles. He was a straight up anti-hero.

His role in Pitch Black is a little more ambiguous and more villain-like but I don't know if I'd outright call him a villain since he isn't really in the protagonists' way.

Well, since we're on a "Gary Oldman is an awesome bad guy" kick, I throw out Mason Verger from Hannibal

What? You want more Gary Oldman as villain?? Pfff, hes AWESOME at being bad

KingCracker wrote:What? You want more Gary Oldman as villain?? Pfff, hes AWESOME at being bad

Great movie, KC. Gary excels at playing the bad guy.

So horribly evil, although you can feel a tad of sympathy for him at points.

Ill admit it, that was a good choice. I wanted to choke the Mr. Phoenix to death during that movie

KingCracker wrote:What? You want more Gary Oldman as villain?? Pfff, hes AWESOME at being bad

Ah, Stansfield was mentioned earlier

I see that and raise you Count Dracula!

Can I raise you young Dracula?

He dresses so much nicer

He's a vampire.

Therefore, he's not a bad guy. He's just a misunderstood goth with nocturnal habbits.

Dammit beaten by Cracker,

ok one of my all time favs


And quite possibly the baddest of the bad

Hell yea, Jack Nicholson was fantastic in that movie. Complete nutter, good one there Mr Rice

kronk wrote:He's a vampire.

Therefore, he's not a bad guy. He's just a misunderstood goth with nocturnal habbits.

Eh, just a different life-style I guess...Some people like beer, others like human blood

Unstoppable army, can control humans, infects machines, Almost unstoppable martial artist and can reproduce himself through other humans. I think Agent smith deserves a mention.

Honestly, Neo was the bad guy. The machines just wanted a power source so that they wouldn't die. In exchange, they gave humanity the ultimate, full-immersion online MMO ever created!

KingCracker wrote:Hell yea, Jack Nicholson was fantastic in that movie. Complete nutter, good one there Mr Rice

Why thank you sir

Another Tim Curry moment of awesome

Exactly, I would be pissed If i woke up in some post apocalyptic future with nothing to eat but a grey gak like substance.

Neo was a dastardly bastard.

Pilau Rice wrote:
Another Tim Curry moment of awesome

Holy gak! That was Tim Curry?!?! I had no idea. I had to look that up on IMDB.

Wow. I never knew that.