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Their shipping/packaging department is pretty notorious for that kind of error. It's also not uncommon for them to give you more than what you ordered.
Just call/email them.

Yes, call up FW, they'll send you the replacements.

And you'll have extra hulls to kitbash with.

When FW gets you the replacements if you wanna sell the spare hulls lemme know. I've got a source for wheels & I could use a few more on table assets.

Ditto. I'd be willing to take those spare hulls off your hands.

I think that i'll probably keep the hulls. I don't think that selling online will go over to well with my parents. Almost done with the first Taros Venator. It is fully customisable, as you can see. More stuff later.

nice, but really the multilaser? not las cannons?

It can have either one. Look at the first picture.

 cormadepanda wrote:
nice, but really the multilaser? not las cannons?

A Vendetta is a much more points-efficient way of getting TL Lascannons in an aircav army. Elysians are more in need of medium-str firepower like multilasers. For Venators the multilaser is a much better pick, although autocannons would be ideal for its role as a fast transport hunter.

 Joshh wrote:

 cormadepanda wrote:
nice, but really the multilaser? not las cannons?

A Vendetta is a much more points-efficient way of getting TL Lascannons in an aircav army. Elysians are more in need of medium-str firepower like multilasers. For Venators the multilaser is a much better pick, although autocannons would be ideal for its role as a fast transport hunter.

You can't fit autocannons to a Venator.

 Enigwolf wrote:

 Joshh wrote:

 cormadepanda wrote:
nice, but really the multilaser? not las cannons?

A Vendetta is a much more points-efficient way of getting TL Lascannons in an aircav army. Elysians are more in need of medium-str firepower like multilasers. For Venators the multilaser is a much better pick, although autocannons would be ideal for its role as a fast transport hunter.

You can't fit autocannons to a Venator.

I am aware of this. If you could, it would be grand. But since you can't, multilasers are probably the best bet. Leave the anti-tank to meltavets, Vendettas and multi-melta drop Sentinels.

 Joshh wrote:

But since you can't, multilasers are probably the best bet. Leave the anti-tank to meltavets, Vendettas and multi-melta drop Sentinels.

That is what I plan to do. But what I found is that lascannons are really good for kill team games, especially after a guy brought 5 terminators. I just can't seem to spare enough points to be able to get a vendetta in kill teams. But in regular games, multilaser ftw! Except for that one guy who brings 4 land raiders...

 Joshh wrote:

Elysians are more in need of medium-str firepower like multilasers.

You have to remember that I run 2 vultures with punishers... I think that is a lot of med str power. But the venator can fire on t1.

Actually a venator with a pair of HKM is a great alpha strike platform.

It has the advantage of starting on the table so it gives effective AT at range for T1 or more as my vendettas tend to not show until T4 most cases. In conjunction with a tauros with GL I've effectively neutralized a pair of vindicators T2 plus a TLLC is much more of a threat than multilaser which keeps fire off my CCS & ground scanner team.

I agree a vendetta or 2 is awesome AT but I try to never leave home without an AT venator.

 Red_Starrise wrote:
Actually a venator with a pair of HKM is a great alpha strike platform.

It has the advantage of starting on the table so it gives effective AT at range for T1 or more as my vendettas tend to not show until T4 most cases. In conjunction with a tauros with GL I've effectively neutralized a pair of vindicators T2 plus a TLLC is much more of a threat than multilaser which keeps fire off my CCS & ground scanner team.

I agree a vendetta or 2 is awesome AT but I try to never leave home without an AT venator.

Yes, but in my local meta most people run lists with a max AV of 11-12 (except for the LR-crazed guy), and even then only have 3-4 of them. But, in the occasion that I play against someone who I know to have a whole bunch of LR/LRBT, I will run Lascannon HKM Venators.

 cormadepanda wrote:
nice, but really the multilaser? not las cannons?

I just realized what you meant to say. There are two pictures of the same Tauros Venator, but I built it so that I can swap out for Lascannons or Multilasers, and the HK missiles are detachable.

oh i see, but as far as i am a concerned the air calv mid rage is perfectly fine, along with the anti tank it has in choices, but as a jeep player, i would prefer something along the lines like missle launchers or something, but it looks good and nice turret swap-ability.

Hi Scout Sniper J, i myself am starting an elysian guard army (still waiting on my troops) love your troops especially the scheme, which was amongst the options i m considering for my guys
Anyway keep up the good work consider me subbed

I have returned! I played a 1250 point game on Saturday (allied with my friend's CSM) against an Ork army. We won 9-7, which is pretty good, considering we were playing purge the alien. (and my elysians consisted of about 2/3 of our army, and we were reduced down to one CSM left on board on turn 2 )

Just a quick tactical inquiry: Do you guys think that starting a 1500 point game with 4 tauros venators and a veteran sniper squad deployed is enough to last a round of shooting? I'm trying to decide if I need a larger footslogging force to avoid getting tabled. I hope the Elysian 6E update comes out soon.

@CitizenThane-Good luck with your drop army! I'm guessing that you have probably already started your army by now, but if you haven't decided on a scheme, try surfing google images for half an hour or so. That's how I got inspiration for my guys.

I tried out weathering powders on the first tire (and the area around) on the Tauros Venator. I just wanted too see if any experienced weatherers out there had c&c before I proceeded to finish the next five tires.

Try to think of the way that mud flies off tires onto a vehicle. It comes off in sort of a fan pattern, created as the mud is flung off the circumfrence of the tire as a tangent. There's always going to be a directionality to it, and it's always going to be most intense at the edge of the quarter panel nearest to the tire, then fade in intensity the further away it gets.

Also, consider wiping the powder off (not all of it, just a bit) on the tread face of the tire, where it actually makes contact with the road, as the mud will wear off quickly there as soon as it is driven onto something that isn't just mud. This will leave the contact surface of the tire its natural color, but the recesses of the tread pattern will still be caked and dirty.

Edit: One other thought. Try looking up pictures of people's jeeps that they take "mudding" for reference. You'll probably want to stay away from the extreme examples, where the entire vehicle is coated in mud (what are they doing that gets so much on the roof anyway?).

i like how the jeeps are coming well done.

Okay, after an off time, I got some progress today on my CCS and Venator tires.

@cormadepanda-Thanks for the compliments!

@Nowlan-Thanks for the input! I modified the first tire, and did a second one to test out your idea. I haven't gotten around to powdering the rest of the vehicle as you described, but when I do, I'll post a picture.

Yes, there are wolves. I had a long discussion with a friend, and we decided that proxying them as bodyguards isn't any different than 'proxying' storm troopers as warrior acolytes. Both the Regimental Standard and Medi-pack are removable, and the plasma gunner can be swapped out with another trooper, which I haven't built yet. One of these days I'll do a 'big group shot,' but it will be sometime next month after construction on my house. Here's the pictures:

I like the count as banner, really smart idea and it was well carried out my only issue with the wolves is that by the back ground it doesnt make huge amounts of sense (they wouldnt want to wear jump packs me thinks)

Young Logan

Drop wolves. Brining a whole new wtf to 40k. I like it.

 Young_Logan wrote:
my only issue with the wolves is that by the back ground it doesnt make huge amounts of sense (they wouldnt want to wear jump packs me thinks)

Young Logan

It makes perfect sense, they just jump tandem with their handler, like military working dogs have been doing for years. They even have special breating masks for the dogs for high altitude jumps.
(proof: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/110504_110504_wardogs2BB.jpg )

Yes, the drop wolves are trained so that they are able to use the modified grav-chutes to deploy onto the field.

I did a 'big old group air plane shot, and i am almost done with the vendetta. I have a Vulture and three Venators on the way. The CCs is finished (except for the wolf bases.) I heard a rumor here that the Elysian list will be updated soon... Can't wait to see that! (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/516270.page)

Any C+C on the Tyranid head on the banner guy's base? It's my first time painting a 'monster,' and a wondered how well I did.

The paint on the head seems fine, but the blood seems off somehow. I think it's that its oozing out both sides, where it should only be pouring out the lowest hole. The hole on the top would only ooze slightly while the majority of the blood would pour out of the bottom hole due to gravity.

very cool army shots. I like the head.

I was initially worried that your camouflage scheme was messy in the first few pictures, but it seems that you've gotten that totally under control. The rugged military look on these miniatures is great! Keep it up.

Nowlan, cormadepanda, and killykavekommando- Thanks for the compliments/suggestions!

Nowlan- The effect was more of the blood splattering from the head by being sliced by a knife.

All- Thanks for the encouragement and help for the past year! I plan on putting the final touches on my CCS and Vendetta tomorrow (or today?), and in return for all your support, I will do a 'big group shoot' with all my Elysian models on a terrain board by the end of August! But, since I have a lot of spending cash piled up from not buying any warhammer for seven months, I plan on expanding my army with a mass Forgeworld order. Here is my proposed list:


Elysians- IA3E2

HQ

Company Command Squad**
-Power Fist/Plasma Pistol
-Plasma Gun
-Wolves (Bodyguards)
-Medic
-Force Field (Carapace Armor)
-Aux. GL
183

Troops

Elysian Vets***
-2x Plasma Gun
-Aux. GL
-4x Shotguns
123

Elysian Vets
-3x Sniper Rifles
-Rocket Launcher
120

Fast Attack

3x Tauros Venators
-3x TL Multilasers
150

Vulture Gunship
-Punisher Gatling Cannon
155

Vulture Gunship
-Punisher Gatling Cannon
155

Dedicated Transport

Valkyrie AAC**
-Multiple Rocket Pods
130

Valkyrie AAC***
-Multiple Rocket Pods
130


Imperial Guard Allies (with elysian models, of course)

HQ

Company Command
-Ground Scanner (counts as Astropath)
-Rocket Launcher
95

Troops

Elysian Vets*
-3x Meltaguns
-Demolitions Doctrine (note-with Demolition charge, *not* breacher charge)
130

Fast Attack

Vendetta Gunship*
130

Total-1496

*,**,***-Units are marked with their corresponding transport.

If anyone has any comments and/or suggestions, they are both welcome and appreciated!
*,**,***-Units are marked with their corresponding transport.

If anyone has any comments and/or suggestions, they are both welcome and appreciated!

EDIT-Since I haven't gotten IA3E2 yet, can someone verify the points values? Thanks in advance!