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Real men hunt with their bare hands.

rubiksnoob wrote:

People arguing about the rightness of hunting wrote:Rabble rabble rabble.

The issue can be quite easily condensed to: Some people hunt, some people don't. There are legitimate reasons for both, but because of the subjective nature of the matter, neither is "ethically" better than the other. Also, I think we shouldall agree that trophy hunting is wrong, no bones about it.

Fixed that for ya. I love trophy hunting. I really just like killing so I'm only patient enough to wait for the big one for half the season.

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

At least with Catfish anyway

Does fishing count? It's quite a few leagues from shooting big game, but it's still hunting...

I think you really do appreciate the meal more if you've caught, killed and gutted it yourself, instead of picked it up in the supermarket. And it often tastes better. A friend of mine (a Norwegian) hunts elk, and that meat tasted absolutely fantastic! I've never eaten any meat better than this elk....

Its definitly different. Wild meat tends to be very lean and dense. Its nice, although it can be a bit dry. Depends on the animals exact circumstances of course. A bear could have abit of fat for example.

I don't hunt, mainly because it's anoyingly hard to due to regulations over here and partly because I find it horrendous.

Hunting to me is taking a gun, going tracking, murdering your prey then taking it home and gutting it/ skinning it and eating it. Fair enough, humans need food and this is the traditional way it's been done for 1000's of years.

Now Talking to an American, this was his version of hunting:
Climb to observation post in tree.Cover observation post and himself in camo/neutrall smell Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range. Take home stuff/mount. This is NOT hunting, this is just pointless murder, if you are going to murder something at least take it home to eat/make clothes out of it/sell it instead of just having an ornament, I can understand trophies but a whole animal? what a waste.

I havn't hunted but I have snapped the necks of chickens and turkeys, prepped them for eating, so i'm no stranger to where my food comes from, but it'd be a waste to kill the chicken and then stuff it 'because it looked pretty'

 necrovamp wrote:
I don't hunt, mainly because it's anoyingly hard to due to regulations over here and partly because I find it horrendous.

Hunting to me is taking a gun, going tracking, murdering your prey then taking it home and gutting it/ skinning it and eating it. Fair enough, humans need food and this is the traditional way it's been done for 1000's of years.

Now Talking to an American, this was his version of hunting:
Climb to observation post in tree.Cover observation post and himself in camo/neutrall smell Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range. Take home stuff/mount. This is NOT hunting, this is just pointless murder, if you are going to murder something at least take it home to eat/make clothes out of it/sell it instead of just having an ornament, I can understand trophies but a whole animal? what a waste.

I havn't hunted but I have snapped the necks of chickens and turkeys, prepped them for eating, so i'm no stranger to where my food comes from, but it'd be a waste to kill the chicken and then stuff it 'because it looked pretty'

I'd wager very few trophy hunters waste the meat.

It may not be their primary objective, but it highly doubt anything but the smallest amount of hunters actually just toss the meat.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 necrovamp wrote:
I don't hunt, mainly because it's anoyingly hard to due to regulations over here and partly because I find it horrendous.

Hunting to me is taking a gun, going tracking, murdering your prey then taking it home and gutting it/ skinning it and eating it. Fair enough, humans need food and this is the traditional way it's been done for 1000's of years.

Now Talking to an American, this was his version of hunting:
Climb to observation post in tree.Cover observation post and himself in camo/neutrall smell Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range. Take home stuff/mount. This is NOT hunting, this is just pointless murder, if you are going to murder something at least take it home to eat/make clothes out of it/sell it instead of just having an ornament, I can understand trophies but a whole animal? what a waste.

I havn't hunted but I have snapped the necks of chickens and turkeys, prepped them for eating, so i'm no stranger to where my food comes from, but it'd be a waste to kill the chicken and then stuff it 'because it looked pretty'

I'd wager very few trophy hunters waste the meat.

It may not be their primary objective, but it highly doubt anything but the smallest amount of hunters actually just toss the meat.

Don't even bother. That post is so full of gak it's staggering.

 AustonT wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 necrovamp wrote:
I don't hunt, mainly because it's anoyingly hard to due to regulations over here and partly because I find it horrendous.

Hunting to me is taking a gun, going tracking, murdering your prey then taking it home and gutting it/ skinning it and eating it. Fair enough, humans need food and this is the traditional way it's been done for 1000's of years.

Now Talking to an American, this was his version of hunting:
Climb to observation post in tree.Cover observation post and himself in camo/neutrall smell Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range. Take home stuff/mount. This is NOT hunting, this is just pointless murder, if you are going to murder something at least take it home to eat/make clothes out of it/sell it instead of just having an ornament, I can understand trophies but a whole animal? what a waste.

I havn't hunted but I have snapped the necks of chickens and turkeys, prepped them for eating, so i'm no stranger to where my food comes from, but it'd be a waste to kill the chicken and then stuff it 'because it looked pretty'

I'd wager very few trophy hunters waste the meat.

It may not be their primary objective, but it highly doubt anything but the smallest amount of hunters actually just toss the meat.

Don't even bother. That post is so full of gak it's staggering.

My problem isnt with trophy hunters, it's with the 'sit there and blow gak to bits for fun' hunters i have aproblem with. My post may ahve come across a bit whiney, but that was my point.

 Jihadin wrote:
DAting military sites via the net. You be suprise of the quality of the ladies looking. After you ensure its not a terrorist

Have you seen some of those women? Dependopotamuses definitely count as a form of terrorism, it even fits the definition, inspiring fear, etc. The population is just limited to you and any one around your house.

 necrovamp wrote:

 AustonT wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 necrovamp wrote:
I don't hunt, mainly because it's anoyingly hard to due to regulations over here and partly because I find it horrendous.

Hunting to me is taking a gun, going tracking, murdering your prey then taking it home and gutting it/ skinning it and eating it. Fair enough, humans need food and this is the traditional way it's been done for 1000's of years.

Now Talking to an American, this was his version of hunting:
Climb to observation post in tree.Cover observation post and himself in camo/neutrall smell Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range. Take home stuff/mount. This is NOT hunting, this is just pointless murder, if you are going to murder something at least take it home to eat/make clothes out of it/sell it instead of just having an ornament, I can understand trophies but a whole animal? what a waste.

I havn't hunted but I have snapped the necks of chickens and turkeys, prepped them for eating, so i'm no stranger to where my food comes from, but it'd be a waste to kill the chicken and then stuff it 'because it looked pretty'

I'd wager very few trophy hunters waste the meat.

It may not be their primary objective, but it highly doubt anything but the smallest amount of hunters actually just toss the meat.

Don't even bother. That post is so full of gak it's staggering.

My problem isnt with trophy hunters, it's with the 'sit there and blow gak to bits for fun' hunters i have aproblem with. My post may ahve come across a bit whiney, but that was my point.

No, not whiney. Ignorant and fantastical.

Im talking about Tree stand hunting, putting bait around a tree then sitting in the tree. There is no 'honour' in that. And i've met enough people who do just hunt for fun, not for meat.

This video illustrates what I'm talking about, I just wish the bear had made it all the way up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZTccgljVA

I'll give necrovamp the benefit of the doubt because he said one American he talked to. But I can assure you there's a lot more to hunting than sitting in a tree stand and blowing the gak out of an animal.

Though to be honest that is all it is to some folk. But thats really not an American thing, thats a human thing.

But the vast majority of hunters are more keenly aware of the environment than the average citizen and are conservationists first and foremost. Being environmentally conscious can take a lot more routes than slapping a support wind power bumper sticker on your car.

I didn't mean it to be an American thing, but as we dont hunt much over here i thought i better say it was an american, as an englishman wouldn't know much about american hunting.

I do understand that a lot of hunters are ok, and do it for a good reason. I'm just not a fan of the other kind.

Maybe i'm just overstating something that is in the minority.

We have idiots here too, people who thing it's 'fun' to hunt a fox by chasing it across countryside with hounds and then mauling it to death. I do not like these people also, thankfully the sports been banned here.

 necrovamp wrote:
Sit there and blast the living Gak out of anything that came within range

was this American's name "Oregon Trail"?

Hunting in the US is way different from hunting in the UK. I highly doubt anyone here who doesn't...even abhor hunting..will tunr down a deer steak.

 AustonT wrote:

 chromedog wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


In short you don't hunt, but you hire "assassins" to do it for you

Yep. Nice and civilised.

When my family's dog had terminal cancer, we engaged the services of a professional pet snuffer. We did not do it ourselves - running the risk of cocking it up and having an enraged zombie fox-terrier/dachshund on our kiesters. That little mad-rat-creature stayed dead.

Your little rant included some disparaging comments about grilling. I can't possibly trust you now.
I'm afraid I have to place you on ignore.

Please do. It kinda negates any intended effect though by telling me. It's the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going all "I can't hear you, la la la la la" while I'm standing next to you.
I wasn't making disparaging comments about grilling. I was making disparaging comments about the type of males (here) who do it. If you other former colonials wish to take offence at this, then that's your prerogative and I really could not care less. I also make disparaging comments about dachshunds - but I don't see Frazz doing much about it.
I disparage stuff. I'm an Aussie. It's what we DO.

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

Relapse wrote:

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

If I had to guess, I'd say Mattyrm.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

If I had to guess, I'd say Mattyrm.

I think the poor critter would be more in danger of being violated.

Mattym...but he also mention a greased mountain lion with him in Spandex two sizes small

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

If I had to guess, I'd say Mattyrm.

it was Trondhiem I think

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

If I had to guess, I'd say Mattyrm.

No, it was Joey. Mattyrm said that he would fight any dog with his bare hands.

Both opponents are four legged furries. We just flip a coin to see who gets what.

I'd go after a mountain lion, but with pants on and at least my Ka-bar.

I don't hunt because it seems exhausting and I'm very lazy. I have no strong feelings about those who do.

I do love fishing, however. I don't actually eat seafood, so I either throw back everything I catch, or my wife eats it, depending on what (and where) I caught.

Fresh or salt water Ouze?

Coolyo294 wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 d3m01iti0n wrote:
Real men hunt with their bare hands.

Who was it in one of the threads that was going to wrestle a mountain lion naked?

If I had to guess, I'd say Mattyrm.

No, it was Joey. Mattyrm said that he would fight any dog with his bare hands.

Joey didn't just say he'd fight it he went on and on about how easy it would be. I kind of want to arrange it so I can sell tickets and run the odds.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Its definitly different. Wild meat tends to be very lean and dense. Its nice, although it can be a bit dry. Depends on the animals exact circumstances of course. A bear could have abit of fat for example.

I had bear meat... ugh... not as good as you expect.

Me... I'm more of a fisherman.

I've fished in the mid-west (where I live), off the coast of California and in Alaska (Homer Bay and Whittier).