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 Squigsquasher wrote:
. Not all of us have the time or money to construct a decent PC.

Building a cheap but relatively decent PC takes about an hour and £3-400.

Meanwhile buying a PS3 or an Xbox 360 takes about 5 minutes and £200.

Yes, PCs are good. I'm building my own PC. But they aren't for everyone. You have to know a fair bit about what bits to use, which combinations of chips and graphics cards and so on work with what, and in order to get a PC with considerably more power for gaming than a console, you have to pay around £800 minimum. The PC I'm building is going to cost over £1200. For your average joe, consoles are much easier and cheaper to use than a PC. Also, not all PC games are compatible with all PCs, whereas when you buy a PS3 game you know it is going to work with your PS3. I bought Fire Warrior, for example, and it isn't compatible with our PC, and on top of that the PS2 version is, from what I have heard, superior anyway.

Plus, to be honest, the "superiority" of PCs for gaming is massively overhyped. I played Portal 2 on the PC we have at the moment and my PS3, and I can safely say the graphics and performance were vastly better on the PS3.

And you don't really need to upgrade it that much either. Many console fanboys exaggerate the need to upgrade to the point of stupid.


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 Squigsquasher wrote:
in order to get a PC with considerably more power for gaming than a console, you have to pay around £800 minimum.

Not really no. Well, maybe if you include the monitor and sound sytem. But then you'd have to get those for the consoles as well.

I think you're mistaking "better than console" with "high end". "Better than console" is not really all that expensive. Modern consoles weren't that advanced when they were first released, and they're all very much old now, technologically speaking. They aren't MEANT to be top of the line things-- they don't need to be, that isn't the point, and that would make consoles too expensive anyway. But, conversely, you also don't need top of the line computer hardware to play games at the same level as consoles can, not even close to top of the line stuff.

Don't fool yourself about the costs. In the end, it's really just a matter of taste. Let's drop the stupid console war bs now.

Well said.

Anyway, this is sad. I just hope if THQ does go under that a good company gets hold of their IP. Square Enix or Valve maybe?

 Squigsquasher wrote:
I played Portal 2 on the PC we have at the moment and my PS3, and I can safely say the graphics and performance were vastly better on the PS3.

Not a very good PC then.

Or they haven't adjusted the resolution...

Valve games seem to love completely forgetting the resolution of my computer and going for something that looked terrible in the late 90's.

Yeah, I hate it when games automatically set themselves to wierd settings.

Speaking of wierd, I put KOTOR on my new computer and for some reason it would crash about 75% of the time midgame. Until I disabled the movies, at which point the game worked fine. It wouldn't even crash when movies were played WTF???

 Melissia wrote:
And you don't really need to upgrade it that much either. Many console fanboys exaggerate the need to upgrade to the point of stupid

A lot of PC players do it too actually. The die hard will upgrade their machine with the newest hardware every year and any PC that isn't such is 'bad.' I mean go to new egg and look at the user reviews. The PC hardcore can be pretty vicious when it comes to hardware

 LordofHats wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
And you don't really need to upgrade it that much either. Many console fanboys exaggerate the need to upgrade to the point of stupid

A lot of PC players do it too actually. The die hard will upgrade their machine with the newest hardware every year and any PC that isn't such is 'bad.' I mean go to new egg and look at the user reviews. The PC hardcore can be pretty vicious when it comes to hardware

Yeah, but I like to ignore the "hardcore" crowd of either side.

I mean hell, I have a wii alongside my PC. If I had the money I'd have a PS3, too (and the only reason I'd not get an xbox is that I simply have no use for a second microsoft gaming PC, which is all an xbox is in the end). Diversity is better than brand loyalty.

 Grey Templar wrote:
But people should need a PC anyway for other things, so turning something into a gaming platform you already will need is just the efficient thing to do.

It's even more efficient to add a cheaper console to the TV you already have.

Dark Millennium Online is need to be finished...give me a mass 40k game!

DMO is for sure dead as an MMO. They were converting it to a single player game when their financial troubles hit and no word on it since then.

Probability exists that the game is dead :[

 LordofHats wrote:
DMO is for sure dead as an MMO. They were converting it to a single player game when their financial troubles hit and no word on it since then.

Probability exists that the game is dead :[

Well... at least it won't be a disappointment. Now it can always be a glorious perfect game that never was.

 -Loki- wrote:
It's even more efficient to add a cheaper console to the TV you already have.

No it's not. You still have to have a computer alongside the console because the console is not able to do most of the things that a computer can do. You'll still spend just as much money, if not more, if you opt to go that route.

Stop acting like it's anything other than a matter of taste. That's all it is. Console wars are stupid.

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Meanwhile buying a PS3 or an Xbox 360 takes about 5 minutes and £200.

Oh, you get free televisions? Sweet.

Squigsquasher wrote:Yes, PCs are good. I'm building my own PC. But they aren't for everyone. You have to know a fair bit about what bits to use, which combinations of chips and graphics cards and so on work with what, [...]

Or you just need to know someone.

Rule #1 of IT: "You don't need to know everything. Just where you can find out."

Grey Templar wrote:Speaking of wierd, I put KOTOR on my new computer and for some reason it would crash about 75% of the time midgame. Until I disabled the movies, at which point the game worked fine. It wouldn't even crash when movies were played WTF???

KotOR as in KotOR1? Or SWTOR?
In case of the latter, the game switches into a sort-of "high definition" mode with improved textures and additional detail, which of course puts additional strain on the GPU (which is the reason why it's normally deactivated in standard gameplay). Maybe check how you can lower the settings further in your options and see if that helps - then you at least know what's causing it. And if this is it, you can start experimenting with driver updates, temperature check, etc.

As in KOTOR1, and I did tone down graphics first(which shouldn't have been a problem with my PC) but that didn't work. So then I switched off movies and it runs fine.

 Testify wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Meanwhile buying a PS3 or an Xbox 360 takes about 5 minutes and £200.

Oh, you get free televisions? Sweet.

Hell, I have my wii hooked up to the same TV as my desktop anyway.

Most TVs do that these days.

Did this just turn into Console vs PC? GIVE ME DMO!

Welp, THQ's director of finances just threw in the hat. Meanwhile the company did get an extension for their loans untill the 15th of january and their stocks went up from 1.15-1.20 to 1.29.

MadMuzza wrote:
Did this just turn into Console vs PC? GIVE ME DMO!

You wont have DMO unless you fund it yourself. It's DM now.

 Lynata wrote:
I'm still astonished by how badly the last Red Faction game was. Who was the genious that had the idea to turn an awesome open-world sandbox game into a tunnel shooter? This bomb was well-deserved.

Agreed.


I've enjoyed a lot of THQ games over the years. I hope they find a way out of this.

This seems to be helping THQ out a bit.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/381636/humble-thq-bundle-surpasses-3m/#

Seems good

Edit: Dóh, this is covered in this thread here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/491964.page

It's actualy a very brilliant move. They're unloaded a mountain of games that aren't going to sell much on their own anymore at a bargain price that will attract just about anyone. While it's not necessarily giving them pure profit, it is allowing them to generate some income to finish up their current game lineup and possibly save themselves.

Bravo.

It got them a few million at any rate ($3,285,226.27, at this point).

I'm glad to hear it! I actually went to Best Buy and got a copy of Saints Row the Third after reading this thread. I want THQ to pull through. That said, I have not really enjoyed Saints Row the Third.

 Manchu wrote:
I'm glad to hear it! I actually went to Best Buy and got a copy of Saints Row the Third after reading this thread. I want THQ to pull through. That said, I have not really enjoyed Saints Row the Third.

How come? I really enjoyed it, but I only played it co-op, which influences my views.

 htj wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
I'm glad to hear it! I actually went to Best Buy and got a copy of Saints Row the Third after reading this thread. I want THQ to pull through. That said, I have not really enjoyed Saints Row the Third.

How come? I really enjoyed it, but I only played it co-op, which influences my views.

There are too many steps backward from Saints Row 2.

In Saints Row 2 you could call a taxi if you didn't want to drive all the way across town. Now you can't.
In Saints Row 2 there were male and female police. Now there are only males.
In Saints Row 2 you could replay missions whenever you liked. Now you can't.
In Saints Row 2 you could choose whether to wield one pistol or two. Now you can't.

Even little things like not being able to wear a pinstripe suit become rather frustrating when you think you finally found an idea that the stripped down customisation options allow.

Oh, and both sets of tank controls suck for the place they're used. If they'd switched them, it would have worked a lot better.

I didn't play Saints Row 2 so I can't compare. I just haven't enjoyed the gameplay or storyline yet. I think the weirdness of breaking into a military complex and killing dozens of soldiers having zero repercussions on your standing as a media darling just kind of overwhelmed me with its ... stupidity? I suppose I might just be getting old. I know the bizarre OTT scenarios are the whole point. It just feels like the game was made by a fourteen year old who thinks Michael Bay is the best director of all time.

Saints Row 2 and Saints Row 3 are, in a way, very different games, even though they follow the same idea (cars 'n guns!) and have a recurring cast (the Saints).

Where SR2 and its Robocop-style evil megacorporation theme was still rather serious, SR3 is much more whacky - perhaps in an attempt to move this series away from the label of being a "GTA clone". I did not like the OTT silliness at first myself, but eventually came around and dropped all pretense of realism, instead embracing the crazy that is Professor Genki and the idea that the whole game is pretty much supposed to be your personal playing ground rather than a living world where you are supposed to adapt and fit in.

The two things that continue to upset me are the scaled-down customization, and that you still can't do co-op with more than two players. But at least the multiplayer is running more stable than in SR2, which was, in comparison to SR3, a really bad console port.

Does anyone know if there's still hope for the SR3 expansion, by the way? :/